Mike Martz's take on Trey Lance

Havic said:
Nobody cares about regular season stats
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right im looking for the QB who can win a SB..like i said I'll take Mahomes also..who else you got? if the regular season doesnt count what QB is winning the SB that we can get?
 
Chasing6 said:
Yes. Mahomes win the SB all my himself.
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but lets overpay CD for his great regular seasons with no playoff success...the double standard on this forum is incredible.."Give me a new QB he has been ruinuing this franchise for 28 years!!!!"
 
CowboyFrog said:
but lets overpay CD for his great regular seasons with no playoff success...the double standard on this forum is incredible.."Give me a new QB he has been ruinuing this franchise for 28 years!!!!"
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Yes, according to these clowns, CD would have had 3,500 yards with a real QB.
 
Chasing6 said:
Trance will look great running the ball.
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'Chasing6' - the Mods need to set up a 'Lance Watch' thread, and title it:
'Cowboys #15: will he become "Phenom - or Trance"?'

Then you and 'DuncanIso' will be the opposing protagonists- providing a robust pro & con narrative for the rest of us CZers to follow throughout the spring and summer, while observing that Cowboys player's pursuit to become a suitable NFL quarterback.
 
CowboyFrog said:
but lets overpay CD for his great regular seasons with no playoff success...the double standard on this forum is incredible.."Give me a new QB he has been ruinuing this franchise for 28 years!!!!"
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the QB can't get him the ball in the playoffs. Dak is trash.
 
TheSport78 said:
the QB can't get him the ball in the playoffs. Dak is trash.
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right thats it..in the regular season Dak gets him the ball at a franchise record rate but in the playoffs Dak can't get him the ball...hmm that makes total sense..wait your next comeback isn't going to be coverage gets better in the playoffs because you know that goes on the WR also..like i said neither Dak nor CD step up in playoff games..
 
CowboyFrog said:
right thats it..in the regular season Dak gets him the ball at a franchise record rate but in the playoffs Dak can't get him the ball...hmm that makes total sense..wait your next comeback isn't going to be coverage gets better in the playoffs because you know that goes on the WR also..like i said neither Dak nor CD step up in playoff games..
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Hmm let's consider Dak's lack of playoff success in general. THE PRESSURE GETS TO HIM. Any knowledgable fan can see it in his eyes and the way his game changes in the playoffs. You don't think that affects the way he goes through his progressions, reading coverages, etc.? Please see the pick six before halftime vs GB. Thx.
 
TheSport78 said:
Hmm let's consider Dak's lack of playoff success in general. THE PRESSURE GETS TO HIM. Any knowledgable fan can see it in his eyes and the way his game changes in the playoffs. You don't think that affects the way he goes through his progressions, reading coverages, etc.? Please see the pick six before halftime vs GB. Thx.
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Show me the players on this team with playoff success? again your double standard is laughable...SHOW ME the playoff success from the other players on this team...CD? Micah? who? CD's production falls off a cliff in the playoffs the defense gave up scoring drives on 7 of the first 8 GB drives..replace the QB thats fine but you aint winning Jack with the rest neither...but hey if replacing Dak's name over the next 5 years with a diferent name is all that happens i'm ok with it...at least the threads will be about how ________ sucks and is holding Jerry back from winning a SB
 
CowboyFrog said:
right thats it..in the regular season Dak gets him the ball at a franchise record rate but in the playoffs Dak can't get him the ball...hmm that makes total sense..wait your next comeback isn't going to be coverage gets better in the playoffs because you know that goes on the WR also..like i said neither Dak nor CD step up in playoff games..
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Team sport. These fools think CD would have had 3,500 yards with anyone accept Dak at QB.
 
CowboyFrog said:
Show me the players on this team with playoff success? again your double standard is laughable...SHOW ME the playoff success from the other players on this team...CD? Micah? who? CD's production falls off a cliff in the playoffs the defense gave up scoring drives on 7 of the first 8 GB drives..replace the QB thats fine but you aint winning Jack with the rest neither...but hey if replacing Dak's name over the next 5 years with a diferent name is all that happens i'm ok with it...at least the threads will be about how ________ sucks and is holding Jerry back from winning a SB
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Show me the player that is asking for $60 million year. It comes down to money. The QB and center are the only two players that touch the ball on every play, and Dak isn't just average in the playoffs, he is HORRIFIC. You have NO CHANCE of winning in the playoffs with those kinds of performances. Blame every #1 WR that's come and go like Dez, Cooper, etc; the common denominator is #4.
 
TheSport78 said:
Show me the player that is asking for $60 million year. It comes down to money. The QB and center are the only two players that touch the ball on every play, and Dak isn't just average in the playoffs, he is HORRIFIC. You have NO CHANCE of winning in the playoffs with those kinds of performances. Blame every #1 WR that's come and go like Dez, Cooper, etc; the common denominator is #4.
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When did we hear what Dak was asking for?

People just keep making things up or assume he is demanding his projected value from the media.
 
Chasing6 said:
When did we hear what Dak was asking for?

People just keep making things up or assume he is demanding his projected value from the media.
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The Dallas media isn't misleading the public on purpose. That's the number that's been rumored so that's what I'm going with.
 
TheSport78 said:
The Dallas media isn't misleading the public on purpose. That's the number that's been rumored so that's what I'm going with.
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I get that is the projected value, but too many people claiming that is what he is demanding.

Nothing has been reported on any actual negotiations - $''s, years or guarantees.

For all we know negotiations have not even started yet. GM Jethro likes to wait and the longer he waits it gets worse.

Example - Dallas's could draft a QB this year. If we wait until camp to start negotiating, then they will know that is no longer an option.

As a GM, I would want to know what they are asking for as soon as possible, so I can plan accordingly.
 
TheSport78 said:
The Dallas media isn't misleading the public on purpose. That's the number that's been rumored so that's what I'm going with.
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Bull. National sports media suggested months ago that at some point there would be a quarterback that signs for $60 million AAV. Then added Prescott, Lawrence, and Tagovailoa will soon be signing contracts for beyond the 2024 season. Since Dak had a better year than those two guys, fans, particularly Dak haters, decided Dak Prescott’s agent is asking for $60 million per season. The Dallas media is clueless. And I can’t name one source that definitively said they know what’s been said in any negotiation. Or that there has been any negotiations. Someone will sign for $60 million per season someday. I doubt it will be Prescott. He will, however, sign for north of $50 million per year. Tua and Trevor will too. How much sense any QB being paid that is another conversation. But the $60 million Dak demand is typical fan make believe. (decorum prevents me from calling it what it really is)
 
TheSport78 said:
Show me the player that is asking for $60 million year. It comes down to money. The QB and center are the only two players that touch the ball on every play, and Dak isn't just average in the playoffs, he is HORRIFIC. You have NO CHANCE of winning in the playoffs with those kinds of performances. Blame every #1 WR that's come and go like Dez, Cooper, etc; the common denominator is #4.
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The common thing is Jerry Jones..OPEN your eyes Dak has not been here 28 years...you have a one track mind and thats fine..just know when your calling the next QB trash..I'll be here to say "Uhh Huh, tell me more".. if Jerry Jones is the GM what kinda bet you wanna make on the next QB winning a title? If your a Romo fan this whole thing gets even funnier....
 
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