Mike Singletary

[kingwhicker]

Just sign Ditka and get it over with.

 

[ethiostar]

First of all, i will like to give Dungy credit for choosing to celebrate 'colts' win rather than responding to the question regarding making history as an African-American coach to going to the Super Bowl during the trophy presentation. That particular time was a joyous occasion for the organization and the city and they need to celebrate their victory as such. However, the organization also needs to be given credit for giving Dungy the chance in the first place. Also, and i'm sure Smith and Dungy will agree, we also need to give credit to everyone that has given them a chance when others didn't (whether or not 'race' was an issue i don't know and i don't care to speculate).

 

[Bleu Star]

What is ironic is that I am sure most of us have no idea what race we are. Sure we can generalize by looking in the mirror and checking out the tint of our skin. But most of our DNA in this country is so vastly mixed that labeling is ridiculous to begin with.

I guess in Bleu Star's grand scheme of things, Lovie Smith is the first black coach to make it to the Super Bowl and Dungy is the second lighter dark coach to make it to the Super Bowl. Does that mean Tony has more of another race than black in him than Lovie? Does that make him any less of a person then or any less monumental? I bet there are a lot of racists in this country who can't stand a certain race and little known to them, they have plenty of said race in their blood. Oh the irony!

You continue to brush Black History under the rug and I will continue to honor it right alongside everything else that has taken place in the past to comprise this great country. I love everyone and , most importantly, I love what those such as Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Thurgood Marshall, General Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice among others have done for our country. There's a whole genre out there called Black History. Take a gander when you have nothing else to do. Then, and only then, might you understand why some find this very minute accomplishment something that doesn't necessarily deserve to be swept under the rug. The moment in time will most likely be swift. It might only be a mention by a commentator. Done deal. I'm not seeing why the recognition of another "first" in the history books is such a gigantic deal. I'm open to elaboration though.

 

[Bleu Star]

First of all, i will like to give Dungy credit for choosing to celebrate 'colts' win rather than responding to the question regarding making history as an African-American coach to going to the Super Bowl during the trophy presentation. That particular time was a joyous occasion for the organization and the city and they need to celebrate their victory as such. However, the organization also needs to be given credit for giving Dungy the chance in the first place. Also, and i'm sure Smith and Dungy will agree, we also need to give credit to everyone that has given them a chance when others didn't (whether or not 'race' was an issue i don't know and i don't care to speculate).

As the venerable Bill Parcells once said, "They are who they are".

 

[Route 66]

First of all, i will like to give Dungy credit for choosing to celebrate 'colts' win rather than responding to the question regarding making history as an African-American coach to going to the Super Bowl during the trophy presentation. That particular time was a joyous occasion for the organization and the city and they need to celebrate their victory as such. However, the organization also needs to be given credit for giving Dungy the chance in the first place. Also, and i'm sure Smith and Dungy will agree, we also need to give credit to everyone that has given them a chance when others didn't (whether or not 'race' was an issue i don't know and i don't care to speculate).

So true. Those that have bridged the barriers should be identified as doing so. Just like I said in a previous post, it wasn't that MLK was black. It was what he did as an African American that mattered.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Atlanta has been seeking Singletary for the head coach position according to a paper in Florida.

You sure you are not confused...seeing as they already hired Bobby Petrino as HC.

Maybe you meant another team.

 

[Route 66]

You continue to brush Black History under the rug and I will continue to honor it right alongside everything else that has taken place in the past to comprise this great country. I love everyone and , most importantly, I love what those such as Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Thurgood Marshall, General Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice among others have done for our country. There's a whole genre out there called Black History. Take a gander when you have nothing else to do. Then, and only then, might you understand why some find this very minute accomplishment something that doesn't necessarily deserve to be swept under the rug. The moment in time will most likely be swift. It might only be a mention by a commentator. Done deal. I'm not seeing why the recognition of another "first" in the history books is such a gigantic deal. I'm open to elaboration though.

Black history, White history. Sigh. You bring up the past and perpetuate it like a constant reminder must be in place to move forward. You shoot yourself in the foot however when you bring up the above people in your post as examples of accomplishments. It matters to you because they were black doing it. It matters to me because of solely what they did. I respect what Colin Powell did because I served in the military and can appreciate his service. I can appreciate others as well but it has nothing to do with color.

 

[Bleu Star]

Just like others have posted here, no one has stated "I want Singletary for his blackness!" No. Most have agreed that he brings intensity and defensive-mindedness. I haven't heard anyone desire to bring him in other than it would show diversity for the franchise. It isn't about his skin color and I am sure the man would agree as well.

He wouldn't be the first:

black head coach
black defensive coordinator

thus there is no significance. The bottom line is he will get a chance with a team. This isn't about his color. There are no firsts here. This is about a quality coach that will get a well deserved chance to be a head coach be it with us or someone else. I'm sure you get the point.

 

[ethiostar]

First of all, i will like to give Dungy credit for choosing to celebrate 'colts' win rather than responding to the question regarding making history as an African-American coach to going to the Super Bowl during the trophy presentation. That particular time was a joyous occasion for the organization and the city and they need to celebrate their victory as such. However, the organization also needs to be given credit for giving Dungy the chance in the first place. Also, and i'm sure Smith and Dungy will agree, we also need to give credit to everyone that has given them a chance when others didn't (whether or not 'race' was an issue i don't know and i don't care to speculate).

Sorry i posted the above before i was done.

anyways, my point is that this occasion should be celebrated by all americans (what ever your genetic makeup is) as a small (within the context of a larger society) but a huge (with in the NFL) step towards a more equitable and fair society. what is ironic is, rather than an occasion of joy, triumph, and togetherness that we can share as a society for making an important step towards overcoming inequality and discrimination, we are instead ONCE again divided because of the thing.

 

[Route 66]

You sure you are not confused...seeing as they already hired Bobby Petrino as HC.

Maybe you meant another team.

Yup. That happened back over a week and a half ago I believe.

 

[Bleu Star]

Black history, White history. Sigh. You bring up the past and perpetuate it like a constant reminder must be in place to move forward. You shoot yourself in the foot however when you bring up the above people in your post as examples of accomplishments. It matters to you because they were black doing it. It matters to me because of solely what they did. I respect what Colin Powell did because I served in the military and can appreciate his service. I can appreciate others as well but it has nothing to do with color.

Riiiight. I'm pretty sure we can go no further in this conversation. It has been wonderful talking with you.

 

[Doomsday101]

First of all, i will like to give Dungy credit for choosing to celebrate 'colts' win rather than responding to the question regarding making history as an African-American coach to going to the Super Bowl during the trophy presentation. That particular time was a joyous occasion for the organization and the city and they need to celebrate their victory as such. However, the organization also needs to be given credit for giving Dungy the chance in the first place. Also, and i'm sure Smith and Dungy will agree, we also need to give credit to everyone that has given them a chance when others didn't (whether or not 'race' was an issue i don't know and i don't care to speculate).

Dungy was given the job based on what he did in Tampa Bay in which he took a very poor team and turned them into a contending team. I have no issue that the media brought up the fact that Smith was the 1st black coach and if that helps others to continue to work hard knowing that the same oppertunities are out there for them then great. Myself I judged both of these coaches like I would any other coach in the league and that is by their ability to lead their teams.

 

[Route 66]

Sorry i posted the above before i was done.

anyways, my point is that this occasion should be celebrated by all americans (what ever your genetic makeup is) as a small (within the context of a larger society) but a huge (with in the NFL) step towards a more equitable and fair society. what is ironic is, rather than an occasion of joy, triumph, and togetherness that we can share as a society for making an important step towards overcoming inequality and discrimination, we are instead ONCE again divided because of the thing.

We are all Crayolas in the big box of life.

 

[Bleu Star]

Sorry i posted the above before i was done.

anyways, my point is that this occasion should be celebrated by all americans (what ever your genetic makeup is) as a small (within the context of a larger society) but a huge (with in the NFL) step towards a more equitable and fair society. what is ironic is, rather than an occasion of joy, triumph, and togetherness that we can share as a society for making an important step towards overcoming inequality and discrimination, we are instead ONCE again divided because of the thing.

This only serves to show me just how much further we have to go as a collective society.

 

[Route 66]

Riiiight. I'm pretty sure we can go no further in this conversation. It has been wonderful talking with you.

We agree on something.

 

[Doomsday101]

This only serves to show me just how much further we have to go as a collective society.

Maybe one day you will catch up to the rest of us who would rather judge a man based on his caracter and ability over the color of their skin. I don't think there was anything wrong with the media mentioning that these 2 men are the 1st blacks to reach the SB and I think most expected that guys like Dungy were due not because he is black but because he is a heck of a coach.

 

[Bleu Star]

Maybe one day you will catch up to the rest of us who would rather judge a man based on his caracter and ability over the color of their skin. I don't think there was anything wrong with the media mentioning that these 2 men are the 1st blacks to reach the SB and I think most expected that guys like Dungy were due not because he is black but because he is a heck of a coach.

zzzz

I am in total agreeance with you. Dungy and Smith both got where they are because they are great coaches. I'm in total agreeance. Clear?

Ok.

Now, they just also happen to be black head coaches. This is a "first". It is not the reason why they are where they are. It is simply a fact. That fact will be recognized by the media swarm in the coming days leading up to the Super Bowl. Someone will mention it on Sunday... Then it will simply go away. Poof. Vanished. Another first will have come and gone. I just can't understand why some people get all worked up over it.

This has been my contention all along.

 

[kjsm5]

How about this, Norv Turner as hc/oc, he brings with him Mike Singletary as d/c, and brings back coach Joe as special teams coach, possibly even bringing in Russ Grimm as o-line coach/ asst. h/c or from Norvs San Diego days he brings back Hudson Houck to the same title.

 

[Aikbach]

I don't give a toss for the race or creed of the man hired, not even worthy of a discussion, let us hire a football knowledgable coach who can motivate and convey sound schemes and fundamentals that will prepare his team to win.

End of the discussion on the racial criteria.

 

[Route 66]

How about this, Norv Turner as hc/oc, he brings with him Mike Singletary as d/c, and brings back coach Joe as special teams coach, possibly even bringing in Russ Grimm as o-line coach/ asst. h/c or from Norvs San Diego days he brings back Hudson Houck to the same title.

I cant see Norv coming back though.