Mincey: Tension grew in Cowboys locker room with Greg Hardy

[DCBoysfan]

Cris Carter is rarely accurate on anything.

With my own eyes and relying upon no one I saw Hardy hug at least 25 Panthers before or after the Dallas game including obviously Cam who has been very vocal in his support of Greg.

Garrett was championing Hardy early saying he was his hardest worker and challenging the other guys to work harder. His support of Hardy obviously turned in a big way.

Well I'm willing to bet that he has a much better pulse of what was happening in the Panthers locker room than you seeing him hug 25 or so Panther players. Also Garrett was indeed championing for him early on, but the last interview I read had Garrett luke warm on the return of Hardy, compared to his enthusiasm when asked about other players from this past season.

 

[Doomsday101]

Is this something you secretly read on Jason's grease board, or did you actually bother watching any of the games last year?

I watch all the games. I'm not going to tell anyone that must dislike Hardy or think he needs to go I appreciate the same. I don't like him and I want him out of Dallas. This defense had less talent last season but played as a unit. They gave up less points than this years defense and they created turnovers something this defense failed to do. Hardy was not a difference maker he has created issues that coming from Mincey which he likely know more so than any message board person in here. But again you like Hardy and want Dallas to sign him then that is your view not mine

 

[jterrell]

I watch all the games. I'm not going to tell anyone that must dislike Hardy or think he needs to go I appreciate the same. I don't like him and I want him out of Dallas. This defense had less talent last season but played as a unit. They gave up less points than this years defense and they created turnovers something this defense failed to do. Hardy was not a difference maker he has created issues that coming from Mincey which he likely know more so than any message board person in here. But again you like Hardy and want Dallas to sign him then that is your view not mine

I don't know if I want them to resign him or not.
The difference between you and me is I am keeping an open mind until I see the dollars involved.

The defense was not better last year. It was virtually identical. Good try though....

 

[khiladi]

I love how Mincey says you "don't fix what isn't broken" about the 2014 DL.

That is hilarious and why we end up Hwith ayden every year. We accept good chemistry and try hard guys as successes.They aren't supposed to be friendly guys. They should be nasty with a mean streak.

That group was pathetic and got no pressure but Mincey had a decent year comparatively and I guess that is all that matters.

That struck me the most about the interview, but nobody is talking about it.
Which player has ever openly, while on a team, criticized the FO for a decision they made which was done to make them better? Mincey is just crying about his time being cut and he's also trying to sell himself as the guy that should be here next year, while Hardy should be let go.

This is not some small stuff we are defending. This is back-stabbing a guy for outperforming you, and using the general perception of a guy in the media to do it. That's what you call cancerous per the very definition of the board here apparently, but not in this circumstance.

And last year, Romo controlled the TOP last year and lept their butts off the field. If Hardy was playing here last year, he most probably would have outperformed guys like Mincey by miles, because opposing offenses would have to take chances to keep pace..

Ware use to disappear on this team too, because the offense sucked and teams never had to rush.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't know if I want them to resign him or not.
The difference between you and me is I am keeping an open mind until I see the dollars involved.

The defense was not better last year. It was virtually identical. Good try though....

Really? Dallas was one of the top in 2014 take aways ranking 2nd with 31 take aways and this season try 11 take aways ranked deadlast? dallas gave up few points last season compared to this year. I don't give a damn about yards I do care about points and turnover and this year group flat out failed in getting turnovers

 

[jterrell]

Really? Dallas was one of the top in 2014 take aways ranking 2nd with 31 take aways and this season try 11 take aways ranked deadlast? dallas gave up few points last season compared to this year. I don't give a damn about yards I do care about points and turnover and this year group flat out failed in getting turnovers

Points allowed were virtually identical. They gave up 22 per game last year and 23.4 this year. Ranking was all of 2 spots different. And they gave up less yards. The defenses were both mediocre. Difference was last year we could get the ball at end and win. This year we couldn't.

The offense was the issue. We went from 5th best scoring team to 31st best.

 

[Doomsday101]

Points allowed were virtually identical. They gave up 22 per game last year and 23.4 this year. Ranking was all of 2 spots different. And they gave up less yards. The defenses were both mediocre. Difference was last year we could get the ball at end and win. This year we couldn't.

The offense was the issue. We went from 5th best scoring team to 31st best.

I agree point wise not a big difference, yards are meaningless no one wins because they have more yards. Turnovers though is key 11 this year vs 31 last season? Come on, hardy is not that much of a difference maker especially if team chemistry is at stake.

Offense no doubt struggled but getting turnovers could have made a difference in the outcome of the season

 

[AbeBeta]

So exile everyone at the accusation phase. Only from football? can they work McDonalds?

Nothing changes if you keep letting abusers play. What was unclear about that? And let's drop this whole "not convicted" crap. So many of these acts occur daily without convictions following.

 

[jterrell]

I agree point wise not a big difference, yards are meaningless no one wins because they have more yards. Turnovers though is key 11 this year vs 31 last season? Come on, hardy is not that much of a difference maker especially if team chemistry is at stake.

Offense no doubt struggled but getting turnovers could have made a difference in the outcome of the season

Ultimately, the 3 metrics should work together to give you an idea of the defense.
If the offense starts at your 30 and scores a FG you've done a great job.
Starts at their 5 and scores a FG you've been fairly poor.
Yardage deserves to be play in but shouldn't be the most heavily weighted defensive stat.

Turnovers are tough because they are so random and circumstantial.

Hardy was not a big enough factor this year. That I agree with. But 2014 WITH 2015 Hardy might have been a Super bowl team.
You can't forget the thoughts from last off-season totally.
Pass rush is vital. We need more not less.

 

[jterrell]

Nothing changes if you keep letting abusers play. What was unclear about that? And let's drop this whole "not convicted" crap. So many of these acts occur daily without convictions following.

So to be clear you re saying anyone accused (not convicted) of DV should no longer we be allowed to work their job?
They should be banned from their entire field?

 

[tyke1doe]

Cris Carter is rarely accurate on anything.

Cris Carter is a very astute commentator. He provides an insight into the life of an NFL player and the locker room. He's candid and almost too candid.

And because of his openness about his former drug and alcohol abuse, he has access to a lot more players than the average commentator.

I believe him. What reason would I have not to believe him? Why would he lie about Hardy's teammates in Carolina not getting along with him? It's not like that lie isn't ease to refute.

But I don't recall a long line of Panthers coming out to criticize Cris' comments.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Cris Carter said Hardy had problems in the locker room in Carolina.

Chris Carter 'nuff said

 

[Alexander]

Mincey is just crying about his time being cut and he's also trying to sell himself as the guy that should be here next year, while Hardy should be let go.

That is exactly what he is doing. It is so transparent. He knows his best shot at getting the kind of money he has made the last few years is by coming back to Dallas as some sort of "leader".

Put him on the open market, he's not going to get more than Dallas would be willing to pay for him. He simply does not have it physically anymore.

 

[Kaiser]

Nothing changes if you keep letting abusers play. What was unclear about that? And let's drop this whole "not convicted" crap. So many of these acts occur daily without convictions following.

I heard that some guy, I don't know his name, made a post alleging you committed Domestic Violence. There is no record of it and I know you are were never convicted, but fairness demands you stop posting. Since you believe the allegation is all that matters, I'm sure you agree and will stop posting.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ultimately, the 3 metrics should work together to give you an idea of the defense.
If the offense starts at your 30 and scores a FG you've done a great job.
Starts at their 5 and scores a FG you've been fairly poor.
Yardage deserves to be play in but shouldn't be the most heavily weighted defensive stat.

Turnovers are tough because they are so random and circumstantial.

Hardy was not a big enough factor this year. That I agree with. But 2014 WITH 2015 Hardy might have been a Super bowl team.
You can't forget the thoughts from last off-season totally.
Pass rush is vital. We need more not less.

And if Hardy is being disruptive to team chemistry I want him gone. At this stage what took place in the courts is over with but I do expect him to act as a member of the team and abide by the rules set down by the team. This is not a 1 man show it is not Hardy way, either he gets with the program or get out of here. It goes for all of the player in my view. This is a 4-12 team this is not the time to be giving leeway to anyone this is the time to find out who is willing to give all and who is only interested in themselves.
When things get tough that is when I look for players to pull together, those who choose not to , as a fan I don’t want them here after all football is still a team game not an individual game.

Clearly this is up to the organization of what they want to do and if they do keep Hardy I would hope that any contract will provide clauses to deal with any issues that may be taking place

 

[Zordon]

do you have any source to support this claim? it's cute how you think it's that simple and all. cute and naive.

yes, the entire garrett regime. he's scapegoated players like T.O., Crayton, and Marty B. the entire fanbase now hates those three and anybody affiliated with them from that era. he's thrown coordinators under the bus. the only one who doesn't get held accountable is him, the Jones family and Wade Wilson.

 

[Alexander]

And if Hardy is being disruptive to team chemistry I want him gone.

So far the only evidence is from a player who has the most to gain if he is not brought back. I'll wait for others without something to gain to comment on how he was responsible for disrupting team chemistry.

 

[Doomsday101]

So far the only evidence is from a player who has the most to gain if he is not brought back. I'll wait for others without something to gain to comment on how he was responsible for disrupting team chemistry.

Not really we know Hardy was called in to the office by Garrett on at least 4 occasions, if anything Mincey words only add to what has already been reported.

 

[Doomsay]

I watch all the games. I'm not going to tell anyone that must dislike Hardy or think he needs to go I appreciate the same. I don't like him and I want him out of Dallas. This defense had less talent last season but played as a unit. They gave up less points than this years defense and they created turnovers something this defense failed to do. Hardy was not a difference maker he has created issues that coming from Mincey which he likely know more so than any message board person in here. But again you like Hardy and want Dallas to sign him then that is your view not mine

I don't think that you watched them carefully enough, then. Hardy was our best overall D lineman (run and pass). He might not have been worth his salary now or in the future, but that's a different subject.

Mincey is trying to justify his retention with innuendo. Until I hear a number of other players suggest that Hardy was a mood killer, I'll reserve judgement on the whole chemistry issue.

I'm not sure that a group who's chemistry is dependent on perennial losers like Mincey and Hayden is worth all that much in the first place.

 

[Kaiser]

I'm not sure that a group who's chemistry is dependent on perennial losers like Mincey and Hayden is worth all that much in the first place.

Agree, I think all this is typical Forum chatter. I don't read Mincey's comments as him saying Hardy is a cancer or anything, I read it as him saying the season was a huge disappointment and Hardy was part of that along with a dozen other things. Mincey was hoping Hardy would get a dozen sacks and be a guy that fired everyone up - but instead Hardy didn't put up the numbers, was habitually late and spent half his time answering stupid questions from the media.