Mistake re-signing Tyrone Crawford?

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When healthy one blocker does not contain TCrawford. Like I have said before he is the Greg Ellis from the nineties. He gets shifted from position to position each year because he is so talented and can fill in when an injury occurs. Fans frustration is easy to see when looking back at a season, the coaches working with him everyday approved that contract and thought they got a bargain before he hit the market.
 

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Just another player we threw a huge contract at when he showed signs that he might have something.
 

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Just another player we threw a huge contract at when he showed signs that he might have something.
That is how it works......you don't have much time to make decisions.......if he is overpaid by a million or 2 is that a big deal to anyone but @stasheroo who has gone off the res on this one
 

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When healthy one blocker does not contain TCrawford. Like I have said before he is the Greg Ellis from the nineties. He gets shifted from position to position each year because he is so talented and can fill in when an injury occurs. Fans frustration is easy to see when looking back at a season, the coaches working with him everyday approved that contract and thought they got a bargain before he hit the market.

This.

Crawford has taken a beating the last few years. It's not certain if he will ever live up to his contract -- or like Ellis; draft status -- but he has the ability to be a difference-maker in the middle if Dallas can add a few more legit pieces to the d-line.
 

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That is how it works......you don't have much time to make decisions.......if he is overpaid by a million or 2 is that a big deal to anyone but @stasheroo who has gone off the res on this one

Thanks for the mention, but it's obvious that you and I simply have a difference of opinion on this player.

I think his contract is a bigger deal than you do. No absolute wrong or right.
 

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except he isn't getting paid like that .......he is getting around 1/2 the money of the top guys
He was hand picked by marinelli to be the foundation of this DL at its most important position, 3t.
Marinelli et al failed in their assessment AND Crawford as failed in his on field production. It's that simple isn't it.
Rightly or wrongly it's been a monumentally poor return on the experiment
 

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He was hand picked by marinelli to be the foundation of this DL at its most important position, 3t.
Marinelli et al failed in their assessment AND Crawford as failed in his on field production. It's that simple isn't it.
Rightly or wrongly it's been a monumentally poor return on the experiment
not even close.......he just finished Year One of his extension and had 4.5 sack and 23 hurries in 14 games
 

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My point is not Tyrone Crawford. Everyone can see that Dallas is overpaying him now. And they can also check his history of injury. If he's cut, he'll end up signing a deal for half of what he's making, or a one year, 'prove it' deal.

And just because some teams will have money doesn't m an that they'll simply waste it by overpaying for Crawford.

He's a good player getting paid great money.

And my point is that the market doesn't work like that. There is supply, demand, and a minimum amount of money that team's have to spend on their players.

If you have not considered the market I don't think you can have an informed opinion on what Crawford might make.
 

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And my point is that the market doesn't work like that. There is supply, demand, and a minimum amount of money that team's have to spend on their players.

If you have not considered the market I don't think you can have an informed opinion on what Crawford might make.

I have considered it, and just because teams will be flush with cash doesn't mean that this oft-injured player will get it.

He doesn't have a truly defined role on his own team, and he's coming off of yet another significant surgery.

If he's is cut, he's not getting paid half of what he's making now. Nobody is lining up for Tyrone Crawford.
 

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I have considered it, and just because teams will be flush with cash doesn't mean that this oft-injured player will get it.

He doesn't have a truly defined role on his own team, and he's coming off of yet another significant surgery.

If he's is cut, he's not getting paid half of what he's making now. Nobody is lining up for Tyrone Crawford.

Given that he is not a FA you are correct. You still have no idea of the market.

You are entitled to your opinion even if it is uninformed.
 

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Given that he is not a FA you are correct. You still have no idea of the market.

You are entitled to your opinion even if it is uninformed.

And you're entitled to yours in the exact same manner. You're making the same claim from the other side.
 

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If that's how you measure success - on how many times a broadcaster mentions his name - then you don't understand D-line play. If he were a 10-sack guy he'd also be a $15 million/year guy. He might be a smidge overpaid, but he would get a contract with a $7-$8 million/year avg on the open market right now if he were cut.

Oh jeez. Ok I don't know anything about football. Maybe you can teach me about football. I didn't even read any of your post after that point.
 

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You should have left the ? Off your title. No question...not a bad signing, but like the Carr contract, not value.

In my mind there's no question he needs to move back inside whether he likes it or not...he just doesn't look like a DE to me.
 

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Saw Tyrone at the security check-in at the Denver airport on Sunday. I was thinking, you should be playing against Atlanta instead of being here.
 

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He's your typical "tweener." He simply lacks the bulk to play DT with sufficient effect and the quickness and speed to play DE well enough. Let's face it, he's talented enough to be a decent backup but just isn't starter material, especially at $9 mil per year. It's certainly not his fault that Jerry and Stephen saw fit to award him prematurely with a big contract based upon what he did in TC. It's not the only time they've jumped the gun that way but hopefully, they've learned something from it. The team will soon attempt to correct that mistake in the draft. I sure hope they do.
 
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And you're entitled to yours in the exact same manner. You're making the same claim from the other side.

I actually can discuss the relative needs of teams, their draft picks, the 3T/SDE market, and their relative performances. You read like you are just mad at Crawford because he doesn't have double digit sacks and are grinding the proverbial axe.

It's not remotely the same manner or method.
 

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Can we finally admit it was a mistake re signing him? He sucks, he is decent depth but not starter material

It was a mistake in hindsight but at the time it was made it wasn't a bad decision
Something we can learn from but this can happen
 

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I actually can discuss the relative needs of teams, their draft picks, the 3T/SDE market, and their relative performances. You read like you are just mad at Crawford because he doesn't have double digit sacks and are grinding the proverbial axe.

It's not remotely the same manner or method.

Keep telling yourself that. While thinking you can prove an unprovable claim. An exercise in futility.
 
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