Murray vs. Randle

[KJJ]

You're right. This team has been playing 500 ball because of Romo. Without him this team was a 3 win club.

They'll be back to playing 500 ball if he's back to having to carry the offense because his efficiency will go down and his turnovers will go up. I'm not pointing the finger at Romo for those 8-8 seasons but you're saying the Cowboys would be a 3 win team without him which points to them not being a very good team unless they get stellar play from the QB position. In 2011, 12 and 13 Romo suffered more sacks and int's than he did last season which is part of the reason those teams struggled. The Cowboys couldn't consistently run the ball those seasons and it put a lot of pressure on Romo.

Romo had too much on his plate prior to last season which has caused a lot of the issues he's had. He was the best of his career last season despite coming off back surgery because he didn't have to do as much due to the #2 ranked rushing attack. John Elway would have never won a SB had it not been for the great seasons by Terrell Davis that took pressure off him. We'll have to see what affect Murray's departure has on the Cowboys and Romo.

 

[5Stars]

They'll be back to playing 500 ball if he's back to having to carry the offense because his efficiency will go down and his turnovers will go up. I'm not pointing the finger at Romo for those 8-8 seasons but you're saying the Cowboys would be a 3 win team without him which points to them not being a very good team unless they get stellar play from the QB position. In 2011, 12 and 13 Romo suffered more sacks and int's than he did last season. His back injury that required surgery was due to him having to throw the ball too much.

Romo had too much on his plate which has caused a lot of the issues he's had. He was the best of his career last season despite coming off back surgery because he didn't have to do as much due to the #2 ranked rushing attack. John Elway would have never won a SB had it not been for the great seasons by Terrell Davis that took pressure off him. We'll have to see what affect Murray's departure has on the Cowboys and Romo.

OMG...I have heard it all.

His back injury that required surgery was due to him having to throw the ball too much.

So...now KJJ is a doctor. smh

 

[Toruk_Makto]

They'll be back to playing 500 ball if he's back to having to carry the offense because his efficiency will go down and his turnovers will go up. I'm not pointing the finger at Romo for those 8-8 seasons but you're saying the Cowboys would be a 3 win team without him which points to them not being a very good team unless they get stellar play from the QB position. In 2011, 12 and 13 Romo suffered more sacks and int's than he did last season which is part of the reason those teams struggled. The Cowboys couldn't consistently run the ball those seasons and it put a lot of pressure on Romo.

Romo had too much on his plate prior to last season which has caused a lot of the issues he's had. He was the best of his career last season despite coming off back surgery because he didn't have to do as much due to the #2 ranked rushing attack. John Elway would have never won a SB had it not been for the great seasons by Terrell Davis that took pressure off him. We'll have to see what affect Murray's departure has on the Cowboys and Romo.

Romo threw 9 ints last year.

He threw 10 ints the year before.

But go on tell us more about Romo's int problem....

 

[5Stars]

Romo threw 9 ints last year.

He threw 10 ints the year before.

But go on tell us more about Romo's int problem....

Oh...I'm sure he will....just wait for it! lmao

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

Romo threw 9 ints last year.

He threw 10 ints the year before.

But go on tell us more about Romo's int problem....

After that, he can explain how much better this team would be with a replacement quarterback. I can live with 19 interceptions in two seasons.

 

[KJJ]

Romo threw 9 ints last year.

He threw 10 ints the year before.

But go on tell us more about Romo's int problem....

He's had issues with int's and you'll be wasting your time arguing that he hasn't. He tied a career high with 19 int's in 2012 due to having a career high 648 attempts. Last season he tied a career low in int's with 9 due to having a career low in attempts in which he played at least 15 games. He was sacked 6 fewer times last season than he was in 2013 and sacked 7 fewer times than he was in 2011 and 2012 all due to leaning on the running game.

 

[5Stars]

After that, he can explain how much better this team would be with a replacement quarterback. I can live with 19 interceptions in two seasons.

He will tell you that if Eli had been the QB for the time that Romo was the QB, the Cowboys would have won multiple SB's. Eli is elite...Romo, not so much. lol

 

[5Stars]

He's had issues with int's and you'll be wasting your time arguing that he hasn't. He tied a career high with 19 int's in 2012 due to having a career high 648 attempts. Last season he tied a career low in int's with 9 due to having a career low in attempts in which he played at least 15 games. He was sacked 6 fewer times last season than he was in 2013 and sacked 7 fewer times than he was in 2011 and 2012 all due to leaning on the running game.

BINGO! lol

(i called it)

 

[KJJ]

After that, he can explain how much better this team would be with a replacement quarterback. I can live with 19 interceptions in two seasons.

We'll likely need a replacement QB if Romo has to go back to putting the ball up 550 plus times. The more he throws the more his sacks and int's will go up. I think we all can live with 19 int's in 2 seasons but that won't happen if the Cowboys are forced to depend on his arm a lot more than they did last season.

 

[dstovall5]

He's had issues with int's and you'll be wasting your time arguing that he hasn't. He tied a career high with 19 int's in 2012 due to having a career high 648 attempts. Last season he tied a career low in int's with 9 due to having a career low in attempts in which he played at least 15 games. He was sacked 6 fewer times last season than he was in 2013 and sacked 7 fewer times than he was in 2011 and 2012 all due to leaning on the running game.

You usually do have a couple points, but in no way in heck has Romo had an issue with throwing INTs. That's just media nonsense, Romo has never thrown many interceptions. Sure some like to say he throws a lot of interceptions in crucial situations, but that's just a bull narrative spun around to meet an agenda. Fact is Romo is 4th all time in TD:INT ratio with 2.20. So if you want to talk about Romo's issues, I promise there's other areas to prod at, being a turnover machine is not one of them.

I'll take 10-15 Interceptions all day everyday, if it means he's throwing 30-35 TDs.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

We'll likely need a replacement QB if Romo has to go back to putting the ball up 550 plus times. The more he throws the more his sacks and int's increase. I think we all can live with 19 int's in 2 seasons but that won't happen if the Cowboys are forced to depend on his arm a lot more than they did last season.

Why, pray tell, will that be? Did the offensive line just melt away and we can no longer protect the run?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

He's had issues with int's and you'll be wasting your time arguing that he hasn't. He tied a career high with 19 int's in 2012 due to having a career high 648 attempts. Last season he tied a career low in int's with 9 due to having a career low in attempts in which he played at least 15 games. He was sacked 6 fewer times last season than he was in 2013 and sacked 7 fewer times than he was in 2011 and 2012 all due to leaning on the running game.

Romo has 10 ints or less in 3 of the last 4 seasons.

Romo has averaged over 2 tds for every int he has thrown for his career.

Romo is the 2nd highest rated passer of all time.

But please tell us more about Romo's turnovers problems and how he's holding the team back...

 

[KJJ]

You usually do have a couple points, but in no way in heck has Romo had an issue with throwing INTs. That's just media nonsense, Romo has never thrown many interceptions. Sure some like to say he throws a lot of interceptions in crucial situations, but that's just a bull narrative spun around to meet an agenda. Fact is Romo is 4th all time in TD:INT ratio with 2.20. So if you want to talk about Romo's issues, I promise there's other areas to prod at, being a turnover machine is not one of them.

I'll take 10-15 Interceptions all day everyday, if it means he's throwing 30-35 TDs.

Romo's had issue with ill-timed int's and had a couple of seasons with 19 int's. A QB starts throwing 15 int's or more that can be a problem. Brady has never thrown more than 14 int's in a season and you would have to go all the way back to 2005 for that. The issues Romo has had with int's has caused the Cowboys to change their offensive approach trying to get him a running game to take some of the load off of him. It worked to perfection last season resulting in the most efficient season of his career leading the league in completion percentage and passer rating while tying a career low with 9 int's. Romo had career highs in passer rating and completion percentage and that won't happen again if he has to throw the ball a lot more in 2015.

 

[5Stars]

Romo's had issue with ill-timed int's and had a couple of seasons with 19 int's. A QB starts throwing 15 int's or more that can be a problem. Brady has never thrown more than 14 int's in a season and you would have to go all the way back to 2005 for that. The issues Romo has had with int's has caused the Cowboys to change their offensive approach trying to get him a running game to take some of the load off of him. It worked to perfection last season resulting in the most efficient season of his career leading the league in completion percentage and passer rating while tying a career low with 9 int's. Romo had career highs in passer rating and completion percentage and that won't happen again if he has to throw the ball a lot more in 2015.

And, just how in the hell do you know this? Or, is it something you wish for?

 

[KJJ]

Why, pray tell, will that be? Did the offensive line just melt away and we can no longer protect the run?

Romo can't move quite as well as he use to and although the OL has been a great run blocking unit it hasn't been that great at pass protecting.

 

[5Stars]

Romo can't move quite as well as he use to and although the OL has been a great run blocking unit it hasn't been that great at pass protecting.

Oh, so now it's the oline that is at fault?

Get lost or get real!

 

[KJJ]

Romo has 10 ints or less in 3 of the last 4 seasons.

Romo has averaged over 2 tds for every int he has thrown for his career.

Romo is the 2nd highest rated passer of all time.

But please tell us more about Romo's turnovers problems and how he's holding the team back...

Where did I say Romo is holding the team back? That's just you reading what you want into my comments. It's not the number of turnovers Romo's had that's been the problem in past seasons it's been the timing of them. Dude, everyone knows he's a very good QB and you'll never find a post from me arguing that so you're wasting your time mentioning all the things that point to him being a very good QB.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Where did I say Romo is holding the team back? That's just you reading what you want into my comments. It's not the number of turnovers Romo's had that's been the problem in past seasons it's been the timing of them. Dude, everyone knows he's a very good QB and you'll never find a post from me arguing that so you're wasting your time mentioning all the things that point to him being a very good QB.

You said if he had to throw more...then the team would regress to 500 ball.

You said using him less allows us to win more.

You said he has had an int problem.

Now your issue is timing of ints? Ok. Different argument. You switched up mid stream.

Well how can you explain Romo's number of comeback wins and his 4th quarter rating if he is somehow an accident waiting to happen? HIs 4th quarter QB rating you ask? You mean the highest of all time 4th quarter qb rating? Or his 2nd best qb rating among active qbs in the final 2 minutes of a game?

But please tell us more about how Romo isn't clutch...

 

[justbob]

Stop sniping at each other. Discuss like grown ups.

 

[5Stars]

Stop sniping at each other. Discuss like grown ups.

I wish I could! lol