Mutually Parting Ways with Kellen Moore

[CowboyFrog]

Okay if Moore was so bad, how did Cooper Rush win five games? Is Cooper just that good or did Moore do a great job? You can't have it both ways.

There is so much you have to ignore about what actually happened on offense to try and put lipstick on that pig... but we all know the ones who will say "Its not a pig, its better than Dak" ....Shrugs

 

[CouchCoach]

he aint got no business being the OC

its the goalline all you need is a yard

Really, what team allows the OC to pick his own talent?

You don't think the talent differential plays into the play calling?

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

The "problem" with the offense last year wasn't the OC. Go ahead and fire one of the most productive in the entire NFL if it makes you feel better. Moore lasted like 5 seconds after being released.

This season's offensive roster looks improved at both WR and RB. The QB, TE, and OL positions look about the same. This is where any improvement will come, not at OC.

 

[jazzcat22]

Time will tell if this was the right move but the reason Moore is gone is the same reason Johnson left, Booger thought them disloyal.

Moore just didn't start talking to Staley this off season, he started a year ago. Not talking about a job but establishing a relationship.

Booger has the type ego that plays the "after all I've done for you" card. Narcissists demand loyalty and subrogated egos to their own.

Moore might have been more out the door than the Cowboys wanted because Booger is known for letting the coaches catch the heat to protect his players. He wants to be known as a "players' owner". Can't be execution of the plays, got to be the coach that called the play.

Prescott fans were pointing fingers just like Romo fans did at Garrett that it was all about the plays called and predictability.

Every OC in the NFL is tied to the talent of his QB in calling plays. Fans ask "why don't we do what other teams do"? Because maybe your QB doesn't do them as well.

Lot of complaints about the comeback routes but have you really looked at Prescott's execution on crossing routes? Romo has the same struggles except with Witten or other slower receivers.

It will be interesting to see the type pass plays Moore calls for Herbert because he is a more accurate and diversified passer than Prescott. The play book is pretty wide open.

I wonder if the "Moore is gone" euphoria will hold should the Chargers offense take off and the Cowboys struggle?

Both Tony and Dak hit Dez in stride on crossing routes and it worked. Moore got away from those. Another reason I am glad he is gone. He did not use slants as much. And could not run a screen as well, not too often anyway.
3 plays that can be very effective. Hopefully MM brings those back.

I don't think it had anything to do with limitations of Dak. Though he has limitations. I feel he can make those plays.

I do wish Moore success with LAC.

 

[America's Cowboy]

 

[jazzcat22]

The "problem" with the offense last year wasn't the OC. Go ahead and fire one of the most productive in the entire NFL if it makes you feel better. Moore lasted like 5 seconds after being released.

This season's offensive roster looks improved at both WR and RB. The QB, TE, and OL positions look about the same. This is where any improvement will come, not at OC.

Well his 5 seconds were true as where a spawn of Buddy Ryan's was not.

Moore had this set up long before he was out the doors without curtains at Jerry World.

Yes, led the NFL in points and yards, but it was his stupid cuteness that did not work during critical times in a game. It was still predictable. His refusal to change things up at times as well.
Those cost us at least 2 games and HFA last season.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I couldn't stand how Kellen Moore never (maybe once or twice at most) played Dak under Center and hardly ever used a Fullback in an "I" formation the way the 90s Cowboys did. I felt this would have helped Dak tremendously while keeping opposing Defenses guessing.

 

[Chuck 54]

Wow. The Kellen Moore slobbering is so nauseating, Greg! Kellen was clearly predictable, hence why our Offense struggled against the better Defenses in the league, especially during the playoffs. It definitely was time to move on past Kellen Moore.

Give Mike McCarthy some credit. He's taken the Cowboys to back-to-back 12-5 seasons which has not been duplicated since the Cowboys early 90s Super Bowl years. McCarthy has also improved in his coaching personnel since he joined the Cowboys 3 seasons ago. You act like he and his coaches are a bunch of bums. Sheesh.

It was even more than predictable. As many who broke down our film noted, there was no attention to details, no logic to route schemes. We have heard from players like Zack Martin already talking about the attention to details being emphasized at all positions so that all 11 players are on the same page with every play. I don’t think Moore was bad; he was young and inexperienced. One day he may be a genius head coach, but there was definitely a lack of attention to all the little coaching details that make plays effective and consistent.

 

[JayFord]

Really, what team allows the OC to pick his own talent?

You don't think the talent differential plays into the play calling?

we're talking goalline with one yard to go

line it up and mush your way in there....if they cant do that they shouldnt be in the NFL

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The "problem" with the offense last year wasn't the OC. Go ahead and fire one of the most productive in the entire NFL if it makes you feel better. Moore lasted like 5 seconds after being released.

This season's offensive roster looks improved at both WR and RB. The QB, TE, and OL positions look about the same. This is where any improvement will come, not at OC.

From the sound of things….Moore always intended to go to the Chargers. Someone posted the article on here it was destined to happen.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Super bowl contenders?

Yep. Best record in the NFC in 2007. NFC favourites heading into 2008.

You guys argue anything.

 

[CCBoy]

Yep. Best record in the NFC in 2007. NFC favourites heading into 2008.

You guys argue anything.

Everything is a sidebar about futility it seems...

 

[CouchCoach]

Both Tony and Dak hit Dez in stride on crossing routes and it worked. Moore got away from those. Another reason I am glad he is gone. He did not use slants as much. And could not run a screen as well, not too often anyway.
3 plays that can be very effective. Hopefully MM brings those back.

I don't think it had anything to do with limitations of Dak. Though he has limitations. I feel he can make those plays.

I do wish Moore success with LAC.

We will just disagree on that, I saw him have plenty of problems with crossing routes, he threw behind them and started a tip drill.

It is one of the challenges when they don't have a 6'4" QB that can see over the line, he has to wait for a lane to match the throw.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Most likely it was a scapegoat move on Moore. Especially since he was picked up so quickly by the Chargers for their up and coming stud at QB.

It was a great move for Moore where his success there with a top 5 offense will escalate him much faster to a HC opportunity.

The Cowboys have proven this era to be more of a dead-end for coaches this era. It’s where their career ends or last stop for most of our HC and none of our asst coaches I recall have been promoted to HC on another team since Jimmy left

It's a dead end for coaches because of the legacy left behind by Garrett. The Jones boys loved Garrett so much and made sure no other took his place, that it drove away the good coaches. Eberflus and Dave Campbell are succeeding elsewhere. This is a testament how the FO has failed these ex coaches from Dallas.

I give Mike his due because he has completely changed this team around in about 3 years. We have been in the playoffs two years in a row and we have the best coaching staff that we have ever assembled in over a decade. We may not be the top dog in the NFC. But we are up there in arguably in the top 3. I'm happy with what McCarthy has done here.

 

[CouchCoach]

I couldn't stand how Kellen Moore never (maybe once or twice at most) played Dak under Center and hardly ever used a Fullback in an "I" formation the way the 90s Cowboys did. I felt this would have helped Dak tremendously while keeping opposing Defenses guessing.

That was a totally different offense with timing patterns and a very accurate QB.

The question is how well did Prescott play under center? A lot of the younger QB's don't like it.

 

[GINeric]

Moving on from Moore was the best off-season move that we made. Moore is not intelligent enough to be a successful offensive coordinator at this level yet. Maybe he'll improve and become a great coordinator one day.


But I will NOT miss a coordinator like Moore who doesn't understand the flow of the game. When the opposing defense can't stop the run... you don't stop running the ball. When the opposing defense can't stop the run... you don't call pass plays or trick plays on 2nd, 3rd or 4th and goal or short.

When you have a lead on the opposing team.... you eat clock with runs and high percentage pass plays. Understand the flow of the game.

Kellen Moore wasn't intelligent enough to understand this. Again, I'm glad he's gone.

 

[CCBoy]

Moving on from Moore was the best off-season move that we made. Moore is not intelligent enough to be a successful offensive coordinator at this level yet. Maybe he'll improve and become a great coordinator one day.


But I will NOT miss a coordinator like Moore who doesn't understand the flow of the game. When the opposing defense can't stop the run... you don't stop running the ball. When the opposing defense can't stop the run... you don't call pass plays or trick plays on 2nd, 3rd or 4th and goal or short.

When you have a lead on the opposing team.... you eat clock with runs and high percentage pass plays. Understand the flow of the game.

Kellen Moore wasn't intelligent enough to understand this. Again, I'm glad he's gone.

He needed the depth of experience and knowledge in an old offensive line coach.

 

[blueblood70]

I agree. Parcells was needed. And it ended up going well for this team because it got us from the gutter of the Campo era. But he really did burn us. Can't be stated enough. From his insistent on "Parcells guys" to letting Payton walk...hell he almost screwed up even having Romo to begin with. Insistence on Marcus Spears(Love the guy but not the best move) in the 1st round. Then come to find out he wanted Spears first over Ware....

Imagine the possibility that Jason Garrett would have never coached this team or at least not as a head coach and Sean Payton could have took Romo the rest of the way??

 

[Captain-Crash]

There is so much you have to ignore about what actually happened on offense to try and put lipstick on that pig... but we all know the ones who will say "Its not a pig, its better than Dak" ....Shrugs

yeah, I'm with you. I blame everybody on the team but dak. I'm still on the fence about dak,. If we win a trophy it has to be with dak, so I can say that romo was holding us back.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Imagine the possibility that Jason Garrett would have never coached this team or at least not as a head coach and Sean Payton could have took Romo the rest of the way??

Probably would’ve had a similar career to Drew Brees.