My Strategy if I were GM of the Cowboys

[Whyjerry]

You are most likely right. Right now I am just worried about getting either Dak or Cooper signed so the other one can be given the franchise tag. Getting them both signed before the franchise tag deadline hits almost looks impossible with the sense of urgency our front office seems to have.

What no one seems to be talking about is how much work they need on the DL. You are looking at having to sign 2 or 3 starters at a very expensive position. Hill can't be counted on. Not starting Armstrong at DE. Who knows about Gregory. At least 2 starters. Plus they need quality depth especially at DT. They will draft a guy early but you are looking at big money having to be spent there.

 

[Future]

I love you guys that look at the upcoming season’s cap money and think that is the situation in perpetuity. It isn’t. Further Jones will probably be in the 14-16 per range. It’s a question of value. He is not worth the money someone else is going to pay. How does that Josh Norman contract look? Lastly they drafted Chido and Lewis. Time to see what those guys can do.

Well none of this is the point. They don't have any cap problems, and have nobody crucial they'd need to sign next year. If you cut Crawford and Fleming, you have ~$90m in space.

Dak - 37
Cooper - 18
Jones - 17
Quinn - 10
Collins - 6

That's basically the max cap hit for everyone, and you don't even need to hit a restructure.

 

[Whyjerry]

Well none of this is the point. They don't have any cap problems, and have nobody crucial they'd need to sign next year. If you cut Crawford and Fleming, you have ~$90m in space.

Dak - 37
Cooper - 18
Jones - 17
Quinn - 10
Collins - 6

That's basically the max cap hit for everyone, and you don't even need to hit a restructure.

Quinn for $10. No way. Need 2 DTs. Probably another quality vet. The one year contracts they are shelling out don't help because the cost always goes up. They could sign a vet TE. 2 Ss and at least one starting S. Need to replace Cobb. LB needs work because you can't count on LVE. Jones is not worth that cap hit. Not even close.

 

[Future]

Quinn for $10. No way. Need 2 DTs. Probably another quality vet. The one year contracts they are shelling out don't help because the cost always goes up. They could sign a vet TE. 2 Ss and at least one starting S. Need to replace Cobb. LB needs work because you can't count on LVE. Jones is not worth that cap hit. Not even close.

HIS CAP HIT. If we're going to play that game, Dak's cap hit could be less than 20, I just went worst-case scenario.

If you sign Collins and Woods, you don't need another starter on defense except S.

Worth doesn't matter. You're moving the goalposts. You said they couldn't sign everyone b/c of the bad contracts that they've given out. You're unequivocally wrong on that.

 

[garyo1954]

Let Qwak test the market as non-exclusive. You can always match. If memory serves there's only been 2 exclusives since 2017. This year is shaping up like.....

• Kansas City Chiefs - Chris Jones (American football), DT (Non-Exclusive)
• Dallas Cowboys - Dak Prescott, QB (unknown)
• Los Angeles Chargers - Hunter Henry, TE (Non-Exclusive)
• Pittsburgh Steelers - Bud Dupree, LB (Non-Exclusive)
• Washington Commanders - Brandon Scherff, OG (Non-Exclusive)
• Cincinnati Bengals - AJ Green, WR (Non-Exclusive)
• Jacksonville Jaguars - Yannick Ngakoue, DE (Non-Exclusive)
• Denver Broncos - Justin Simmons (American football), S (Non-Exclusive)

 

[charron]

I would make it a priority to get Dak and Cooper signed prior to the deadline to use the franchise tag and here is the main reason why:

So I could use the franchise tag on Byron Jones. Then I would tell Byron Jones that he has 3 options. 1) Play on the franchise tag this year, 2) negotiate a team friendly deal with Dallas, or 3) seek a trade to another team. I am betting that he and his agent would opt for option number 3. We probably would not get a 1st round pick for him but I bet we could squeeze out a 2nd or 3rd rounder from some team this year which would be better than a late 3rd round comp pick in 2021. Also, we could choose to not trade him to the Giants or Eagles. We could kind of dictate where he goes. The only risk we take in this scenario is if Jones signs the franchise tag and is happy to play for $16 million a year in 2020. However, I don't think that would be the case because rumors are circulating that his starting price in free agency will average at least $16 million a year and he would be missing out on a lot of guaranteed money by playing on the franchise tag.

I expect the Dak and Cooper haters to immediately trash this thread because the whole scenario is based on paying those guys.

so you would just transition tag byron.

 

[jujoboys]

What no one seems to be talking about is how much work they need on the DL. You are looking at having to sign 2 or 3 starters at a very expensive position. Hill can't be counted on. Not starting Armstrong at DE. Who knows about Gregory. At least 2 starters. Plus they need quality depth especially at DT. They will draft a guy early but you are looking at big money having to be spent there.

This thread is focused on getting our own free agents signed in order to maximize the Franchise tag. We don't have a defensive lineman worthy of the franchise tag. I want Robert Quinn back but he is not worthy of receiving the CAP hit that comes with a franchise tag. We have plenty of money to sign Dak and Cooper and still go after help on the defensive line. Sadly there is not much help to be had at DE in free agency. I think we should sign Quinn for DE help. Ask Tyrone Crawford to take a pay cut or be cut. DT is loaded in free agency and we could probably get a very good DT and not break the bank. I would look to splurge at DT in free agency. Then I would try to sign at least one medium priced CB in free agency. I would go into the draft looking to further upgrade the DLine and the secondary.

 

[jujoboys]

so you would just transition tag byron.

No, if I got Dak and Copper signed prior to the tag deadline then I would slap the Franchise Tag on Jones. The transition tag does no good because I already know that I would not match the $18 million a yaer he is projected to get in free agency. The franchise tag allows me the chance to get a draft pick this year for him and potentially dictate where he goes. Examples below:

If he is not franchised tag and allowed to hit the market with no tag or the transition tag then some team like the Eagles him to an $17 - $18 million a year deal. No way we match that. He would be playing with the Eagles and we would get a comp pick next year at the end of the 3rd round. Around pick 100. We would only get that comp pick if we didn't sign any other teams highly valued free agents. What if we gave big money to sign someone's DT then we possibly lose out on the comp pick and Jones walks for nothing to a division rival.

In my scenario we toss the franchise tag on him with really no intention of keeping him. We then allow his agent to see a trade with another team (Eagles and Giants excluded). Even if they worked out a trade for another team's 4th round pick this year then it would still be more valuable than a comp pick at the end of the 3rd round next year that we may or may not get. Who knows we may even get a 2nd or 3rd this year for him. We could always rescind the the franchise tag if it looks like a waste of time. Providing he has not signed the tag.

 

[visionary]

My strategy, which I advocated during last season (so this is not hindsight) was to trade him for a Rd 2 puck at the trade deadline last year

we would now have an extra Rd 2 pick right now but unfortunately we have morons in our FO

 

[Whyjerry]

HIS CAP HIT. If we're going to play that game, Dak's cap hit could be less than 20, I just went worst-case scenario.

If you sign Collins and Woods, you don't need another starter on defense except S.

Worth doesn't matter. You're moving the goalposts. You said they couldn't sign everyone b/c of the bad contracts that they've given out. You're unequivocally wrong on that.

Fella, Woods and Collins at DT? Are you nuts? Rod is gone and a huge upgrade is needed there. You do understand that massaging cap figures year to year eventually evens out? Unless you cut a guy you can't run from the true annual compensation. Worth doesn't matter? What the hell does that mean? Of course it does. Over paying for a CB that has absolutely no ball skills when you have 2 young guys that are capable started is madness. Now I understand this is the Dallas Cowboys and cap and personnel stupidity reigns but isn't it time for a change. One of the best posters here - Bob Hayes - put out a great note on NFL decision making. Basically it was "What would Belichick do"? Belichick would never sign Byron Jones to a long term contract. Never.

 

[Future]

Fella, Woods and Collins at DT? Are you nuts? Rod is gone and a huge upgrade is needed there.

No it's not.

Most efficient passrush unit in the league, 8th in ypc. They could use better depth, but the idea that they need massive upgrades on the DL is wildly false. They aren't available anyways, unless weight is your only standard.

 

[Whyjerry]

No it's not.

Most efficient passrush unit in the league, 8th in ypc. They could use better depth, but the idea that they need massive upgrades on the DL is wildly false. They aren't available anyways, unless weight is your only standard.

You must have missed the Chicago and Buffalo games when average offenses destroyed the DL. But hey if 8-8 is good with you I guess a 2019 redo is fine.

Remember what Einstein said about that.

 

[Future]

You must have missed the Chicago and Buffalo games when average offenses destroyed the DL. But hey if 8-8 is good with you I guess a 2019 redo is fine.

Remember what Einstein said about that.

Remember when Antwaun Woods was hurt for both of those games? So were LVE and Heath. That's your best run defender at every level of the defense. There is no team in the NFL that recovers from that.

Neither team even ran the ball all that well, outside of QBs scrambling, and Dallas had 4 sacks on Allen and 2 on Trubisky, so I have no idea what you're even talking about.

 

[Typhus]

Dak must be signed. Cooper should be tagged. Jones can’t afford him thanks to the stupid contracts handed out by the previous GM. I would bring back Brown instead and draft CB in the first 3 rounds.

Dream scenario would be whatever happens with Dak, Coop,, MM already knew what was taking place, as long as that was understood.
Ive grown tired of trying to micro analyze the Garrett era, major aneurism time.
Im just at the point as a fan that I want to see improvement, and Red Balls days are over, along with most of the staff that deserved to leave.
Im ready to see what MM can bring, as fans we can all just speculate, but its about time that Dallas Cowboys fans start seeing some improvement already,,'
not trying to be impatient, but we have been very patient..

 

[timb2]

I would as the GM would hire a sniper with a tranquilizer gun and anytime during a game Jerry decides to come down on the field .The sniper puts Jerry in nap time so he cannot distract the team

 

[Whyjerry]

Remember when Antwaun Woods was hurt for both of those games? So were LVE and Heath. That's your best run defender at every level of the defense. There is no team in the NFL that recovers from that.

Neither team even ran the ball all that well, outside of QBs scrambling, and Dallas had 4 sacks on Allen and 2 on Trubisky, so I have no idea what you're even talking about.

Heath "best run defender"? Clearly a relative statement. That's like saying I like the blue "sheet stained" underwear. You keep spinning it all you want. The defense was the primary reason Dallas missed the playoffs.

 

[Future]

Heath "best run defender"? Clearly a relative statement. That's like saying I like the blue "sheet stained" underwear. You keep spinning it all you want. The defense was the primary reason Dallas missed the playoffs.

You are just totally distanced from reality because you want fat DTs. You can't site 2 games where the defense was bad, and then ignore the fact that they were missing important pieces at every level.

Also, no it wasn't. When you lose two games without giving up a touchdown, it's the offense's fault.

Just absolutely 0 clue.

 

[Doomsday101]

I fully expect Dak and Cooper to get deals done. Jones I think will be a casualty. I think Dallas draft and FA will lean heavy towards defense.

 

[Whyjerry]

You are just totally distanced from reality because you want fat DTs. You can't site 2 games where the defense was bad, and then ignore the fact that they were missing important pieces at every level.

Also, no it wasn't. When you lose two games without giving up a touchdown, it's the offense's fault.

Just absolutely 0 clue.

You are just totally distanced from reality because you want fat DTs. You can't site 2 games where the defense was bad, and then ignore the fact that they were missing important pieces at every level.

Also, no it wasn't. When you lose two games without giving up a touchdown, it's the offense's fault.

Just absolutely 0 clue.

Jim Jones would have loved you.

 

[Future]

Jim Jones would have loved you.

Albert Haynesworth would have loved you.