CFZ My Theory on Last Year's Loss to 9ers, Washing Off My McCarthy Resentment

SteveTheCowboy

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what!!??? I never mentioned SF. that was in your direct response to Tampa comment. and what "we"...this is your comment

"Keep in mind.....tampa won their division at 8-9. Playing in such a week divsion is a stat padder. That team was in disarray"

perhaps you are confusing me with another poster's comment.

:huh:
Okay fine. I think you should go back and re read what i wrote.....slower.
You make up amother lie that im always misrrable. Just lie after lie.

When you go back and try to read ehat i wrote.....you'll im proud of the sf game. We went out there and gave 'em a run for their money. Just a couple plays....and "we" steal one. Against a good team.

Im happy we beat a loser team the week before.
You want to be honest about rush....but not the bucs?
Come on.
 

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Sure, but when you DBs won't tackle and your Receives cut the routes short and your OC calls stupid red zone plays and the HC doest have a sack....there is a lot of blame to spread around.
Correct. I was only addressing Dak with that particular post and my thoughts that stating he was 'part of the problem' was underselling how big a part of the problem he was. Call it semantics if you wish. I have a lot of darts to throw with regards to that game and the one the year before, but they just weren't pertinent to that particular post.
 

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My biggest gripe with McCarthy last year was not developing a relationship or incorporating himself into the offense along with Kellen Moore. Not sure if that was on McCarthy or if Moore had some perception-based hang ups over that. Also, game management, and clock management.

But, I think it became evident to him. And, essentially, looking from a hindsight perspective, trying to see from the viewpoint of someone with more foresight and true knowledge on the matter than I, I think he folded in order to take his chances with the dealer knowing he'd have a stacked hand next round.

So, the cards come out. Going by the number of cards, we added two more potential Aces in the offseason with Cooks and Gilmore.

That already makes you feel better about going into next year against that same classless 9ers squad. And you'll have more confidence. Not because your team couldn't beat them, but because you mucked up that last play call: the snap to Zeke, the lay up for Turp to get blown up so embarrassingly like that. I'm saying that because I've been laid up like that by noodle arms and es no bueno. Thanks Coach, McCarthy. Creative play for the win — as far as who gets the blame.

Anyway, that's my theory. I'm giving Mike the benefit of the doubt knowing he's there up close, dealing with it all, and I'm not. So, I can enjoy the season, win lose or draw. Personally, I'm not going to get caught up in the winning thing right now, and just take each game as it comes.

I also vow not to worry about which seed the team gets. Just get this one into the tournament.
- McCarthy was handcuffed by the Kellen Moore effect. .. Management was insistent on Kellen calling the shots on offense
And we've paid the price for the Kellen non-adjustment offense vs Niners in back to back playoff exit losses. .

- Now with FO losing patience with Kellen vs Niners playoffs, it's being handed over to McCarthy now .. the offense goes thru him now.

- Some can talk about game and clock management but i've seen this happened with even the better coaches.

- Biggest key by far will be - what will the McCarthy offense gonna bring to the next Niners playoff game that Kellen simply could not deliver vs Niners ?
 

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And they were better in the trenches.
That was a key item, they could disturb our OL mainly with the front 4 , and KM ( & big Mac) couldn’t successfully game plan to counter that and move ball. The interceptions didnt help too.
 

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Yeah,
well MM got his wish now. The remaining 70 percent of this Moore offense will yield the same results when MM calls the same play.
The situational play call in real time will have no bearing on the ultimate outcome of the play.
It will be determined solely by the QB's ability to execute that play.

All MM has to do really is not allow Dak to **** it up and let Quinn's boys eat.
It ain't a hard head coaching gig this year for him cuz Quinn will be carrying him.

Gameday coaching and QB decisionmaking determine the team's outcome this year.
I'll be repeating this ever so often throughout the season, lol.

Apparently, defenses don’t learn the tendencies of an offense, including the QB, after a season of tape and the OC has to trot out a new offense every week in Dallas, otherwise the OC is the problem. It’s not the QB that has to be able to up his level of play, especially after having a whole season to develop consistency and be able to identify what things the team does well, and because of that, must be able to throw in tighter windows as well as go through his progressions more quickly. Dak looks like the absolute worst player on the field when the offense isn’t humming, when Moore is 2 steps ahead of the defense.

The only thing an OC can do is provide options for the QB. If the options are there and the QB holds onto the ball or takes the much easier dump off, or just decides to chuck it blindly to the second read after he doesn’t like the first option, it’s not on the OC.
 

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Okay fine. I think you should go back and re read what i wrote.....slower.
You make up amother lie that im always misrrable. Just lie after lie.

When you go back and try to read ehat i wrote.....you'll im proud of the sf game. We went out there and gave 'em a run for their money. Just a couple plays....and "we" steal one. Against a good team.

Im happy we beat a loser team the week before.
You want to be honest about rush....but not the bucs?
Come on.
huh? what!!?? its all there. perhaps you should re-read what you wrote. make sure you are responding to the right comments and right posters

and now you are trying to put two goal posts together. what did Rush have to do with Tampa? are you trying to distract? spin?
 

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... Im going with KM, not planning ahead. Getting more creative, thinking out of the box.

He played to the hands of SF. Run the ball, when you cant, you throw.
 

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Apparently, defenses don’t learn the tendencies of an offense, including the QB, after a season of tape and the OC has to trot out a new offense every week in Dallas, otherwise the OC is the problem. It’s not the QB that has to be able to up his level of play, especially after having a whole season to develop consistency and be able to identify what things the team does well, and because of that, must be able to throw in tighter windows as well as go through his progressions more quickly. Dak looks like the absolute worst player on the field when the offense isn’t humming, when Moore is 2 steps ahead of the defense.

The only thing an OC can do is provide options for the QB. If the options are there and the QB holds onto the ball or takes the much easier dump off, or just decides to chuck it blindly to the second read after he doesn’t like the first option, it’s not on the OC.
Yep. Proper play selection and good play execution is the offensive goal of every OC.
When the OC's hands are tied because of a one read, half field seeing QB with fundamental footwork, accuracy and reading dee issues...
Then well...
Let's just say the OC (whomever that may be)will be very limited in how he can call a game.

Just like CZ poster McMicah said in a previous post. McCarthy most likely knows this(My gosh I would think) but lacks the spine to tell Jerry about his starting QB's flaws.

I kinda feel sorry for McCarthy although I'm not a big fan, but he has bet all in on himself this year and will attempt to change something that can't be changed.
Dak's decision making in real time.

Just hopefully the dee will be as advertised and Quinn can carry us over the finish line.

Gameday offensive coaching and QB decisionmaking will be the keys.
I will be a broken record on these 2 team requirements for success this year.

jmo
 
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Correct. I was only addressing Dak with that particular post and my thoughts that stating he was 'part of the problem' was underselling how big a part of the problem he was. Call it semantics if you wish. I have a lot of darts to throw with regards to that game and the one the year before, but they just weren't pertinent to that particular post.
Everyone has an agenda...I see the game differently than most. I don't just follow the ball...the little things add up....that's a reflection of the coaching staff.
 

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Everyone has an agenda...I see the game differently than most. I don't just follow the ball...the little things add up....that's a reflection of the coaching staff.
Oh, why didn't you just say it was because you are smarter...
 

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My biggest gripe with McCarthy last year was not developing a relationship or incorporating himself into the offense along with Kellen Moore. Not sure if that was on McCarthy or if Moore had some perception-based hang ups over that. Also, game management, and clock management.

But, I think it became evident to him. And, essentially, looking from a hindsight perspective, trying to see from the viewpoint of someone with more foresight and true knowledge on the matter than I, I think he folded in order to take his chances with the dealer knowing he'd have a stacked hand next round.

So, the cards come out. Going by the number of cards, we added two more potential Aces in the offseason with Cooks and Gilmore.

That already makes you feel better about going into next year against that same classless 9ers squad. And you'll have more confidence. Not because your team couldn't beat them, but because you mucked up that last play call: the snap to Zeke, the lay up for Turp to get blown up so embarrassingly like that. I'm saying that because I've been laid up like that by noodle arms and es no bueno. Thanks Coach, McCarthy. Creative play for the win — as far as who gets the blame.

Anyway, that's my theory. I'm giving Mike the benefit of the doubt knowing he's there up close, dealing with it all, and I'm not. So, I can enjoy the season, win lose or draw. Personally, I'm not going to get caught up in the winning thing right now, and just take each game as it comes.

I also vow not to worry about which seed the team gets. Just get this one into the tournament.
Pollard injured.

Zeke toast.

Noah Brown #2 WR.

Prime year's Brady/Belichick couldn't have pulled a win out of that mess..
 

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And look at this season. At RB, it's Pollard and no one at present. Our best hope is that someone pans out at RB to form a tandem w/ Polly.
And I will say this again. Did Jerry just repeat what he did to the WR corps last year with the offensive line this year?

The offense is predicated by the success of the line.
 

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The same QB who carried the Cowboys to a blowout win against the G.O.A.T. away at Tampa Bay the week before in the wild-card playoffs round? The same QB who went 25 of 33 for 75% completions for 305 yards, 4 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, a QBR of 96.5 and a passer rating of 143.3 ?

:huh: Sounds like a bad theory.

But, but, but...I thought Dak did not have any weapons? Man, you can flop like a fish out of water!
 

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It was a combination. Dak played awful. He was like deer in the headlights again.He was playing bad even before the Pollard injury. Plus the GM never improved the WR position after he got rid of Cooper. After Pollard went down the game was over. I will never blame the defense for that loss. they played good enough to win. And that's the same way I feel about this year. I'm not worried about the defense. It's the offense that has question marks.
Anybody who thinks Tony Pollard was somehow the key to this win or loss at three yards per carry and losing battles before he got injured and then two yards per carry in the second-half and somehow with that run game that was sad excuse for a run game, and they were not blocking well, and we're not giving him clean pockets, and nobody with CD lamb was getting open and by the way let's also put a little bit blame on I don't know Dalton Schultz for two really bad mental mistakes on that three minute drive want to kick that under the rug??and as much as we won't blame the defense I'm sorry if you wanna be a championship defense you have to make those two plays Trayvon diggs Mr. $21 million a year.. Championship defenses make those plays period end of story if you wanna be truly great if you wanna moniker if you wanna name you make those plays.. Prescott did not play well but stop acting like this was his game and we lost because of him when there's a lot more moving parts to an offense besides the quarterback and it was definitely not playing well at all including the play caller..
 

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Yep and add what Jimmie Ward said after they beat us in the first play-off game in January 2022.....

“We went in there and did what we needed to do: Stop the run and force them to be one-dimensional. See if Prescott could win the game for them,”
Talk about getting called out.
 
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