CFZ My Theory on Last Year's Loss to 9ers, Washing Off My McCarthy Resentment

blueblood70

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That's a lazy narrative. He was a part of the problem, but he was definitely not the only one that did not step up.
:hammer:100%!! Those that won't admit how awful the run game really was the offensive line outside CD land there was not anybody getting open or trying to help.. So yes, the offense played poorly, Prescott was part of that but to act like the quarterback should be able to pull that mess up out of the muck and do it all by himself is nonsense..
 

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Yeah,
well MM got his wish now. The remaining 70 percent of this Moore offense will yield the same results when MM calls the same play.
The situational play call in real time will have no bearing on the ultimate outcome of the play.
It will be determined solely by the QB's ability to execute that play.

All MM has to do really is not allow Dak to **** it up and let Quinn's boys eat.
It ain't a hard head coaching gig this year for him cuz Quinn will be carrying him.

Gameday coaching and QB decisionmaking determine the team's outcome this year.
I'll be repeating this ever so often throughout the season, lol.
Is it? That we will have to see.
 

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- McCarthy was handcuffed by the Kellen Moore effect. .. Management was insistent on Kellen calling the shots on offense
And we've paid the price for the Kellen non-adjustment offense vs Niners in back to back playoff exit losses. .


- Now with FO losing patience with Kellen vs Niners playoffs, it's being handed over to McCarthy now .. the offense goes thru him now.

- Some can talk about game and clock management but i've seen this happened with even the better coaches.

- Biggest key by far will be - what will the McCarthy offense gonna bring to the next Niners playoff game that Kellen simply could not deliver vs Niners ?
How in the world do people not know this?
 

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And I will say this again. Did Jerry just repeat what he did to the WR corps last year with the offensive line this year?

The offense is predicated by the success of the line.
I think he repeated it w/ the RB position. Scares me.
 

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Anybody who thinks Tony Pollard was somehow the key to this win or loss at three yards per carry and losing battles before he got injured and then two yards per carry in the second-half and somehow with that run game that was sad excuse for a run game, and they were not blocking well, and we're not giving him clean pockets, and nobody with CD lamb was getting open and by the way let's also put a little bit blame on I don't know Dalton Schultz for two really bad mental mistakes on that three minute drive want to kick that under the rug??and as much as we won't blame the defense I'm sorry if you wanna be a championship defense you have to make those two plays Trayvon diggs Mr. $21 million a year.. Championship defenses make those plays period end of story if you wanna be truly great if you wanna moniker if you wanna name you make those plays.. Prescott did not play well but stop acting like this was his game and we lost because of him when there's a lot more moving parts to an offense besides the quarterback and it was definitely not playing well at all including the play caller..
He plays average and we win. That's it in a nutshell. He was off target all game. And Pollard had an awful game but when he went out we had nobody left but Lamb. Blame the offense but I will never blame the defense. They did enough to win. You can blame Jerry if you want for not getting Dak more help in the WR position. I complained about that last year and was told I was overreacting. Well guess what our WR's besides Lamb did suck. Jerry is going to be our downfall this year too. Hoping our RBs will be enough to open up the passing game...hoping our OL can stay solid even if Martin decides to stay out....playing very loose with the kicking game. As for Diggs, he should have made the interception but even if he did, it wouldn't have made a difference unless he brought it back for a TD. That offense wasn't doing anything.
 

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All you need to know about Dak’s mental aptitude is during the 49ers game in the last drive or second to last drive, Dak decided to run right at the 49ers defender in the end-zone, which would have been a sure safety, if the defender makes what should have been an easy tackle.

I keep telling you guys Dak will look good against over-rated teams like the Vikings or that garbage TB squad, because his roster is superior and Moore is ahead of the defense, but once he faces a good team where the rosters are essentially matched, he blows chunks, let alone being average.
 

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:hammer:100%!! Those that won't admit how awful the run game really was the offensive line outside CD land there was not anybody getting open or trying to help.. So yes, the offense played poorly, Prescott was part of that but to act like the quarterback should be able to pull that mess up out of the muck and do it all by himself is nonsense..
You're pretty much right, in hindsight.

I'll be honest. I couldn't quite put my finger on it at first. But after reflecting on the situation, I think there was potentially a chance for McCarthy to have edited the plays correctly to adjust to the situation we were in.

Kellen Moore is a risk taker, a gambling man type player. He's actually very smart. Always has been. Like, through the roof.

But when he gets caught up in a drag down, to-to-toe, 12 round beat down or bust, he can get knocked out. San Fran stayed on top of us the whole game, and Moore got wrapped up by a python of a defense. It was 50/50 going into that game, anyway. We just happened to lose that day, and that's that. I think our odds increased significantly this offseason.

I'm looking to see what we can do with Butterbean calling the offense.
 

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The same QB who carried the Cowboys to a blowout win against the G.O.A.T. away at Tampa Bay the week before in the wild-card playoffs round? The same QB who went 25 of 33 for 75% completions for 305 yards, 4 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, a QBR of 96.5 and a passer rating of 143.3 ?

:huh: Sounds like a bad theory.
Are you guys really excited about beating TB who was the worse team to ever make the playoffs? It's good Dallas won but Tampa sucked for real.
 

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Pollard getting injured was a big deal. Dak didn't play great but TP going down was the death blow. Hopefully we’ve done enough to beef up the trenches and Dak plays like he did against the Bucs. We had a rash of injuries going into the playoffs that didn’t help. Lewis, Brown, Steele really hurt us prior to the game then losing TP was too much. Also our kicker forgot how to kick which put more pressure on the offense. I’m still hurting from that 49er loss, both of them. Stemming from the 90’s the 2 teams I passionately hate are the 49ers and the Packers and last year we lost to both. I took those losses hard.
And what has the team done to reinforce the roster behind TP? It's almost a definite this RB room is not ready for primetime or built to last a season. Mighty mouse is a nice toy but he is an experiment not a real backup RB plan. Kick got blocked against SF not missed if I remember correctly.
 

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My biggest gripe with McCarthy last year was not developing a relationship or incorporating himself into the offense along with Kellen Moore. Not sure if that was on McCarthy or if Moore had some perception-based hang ups over that. Also, game management, and clock management.

But, I think it became evident to him. And, essentially, looking from a hindsight perspective, trying to see from the viewpoint of someone with more foresight and true knowledge on the matter than I, I think he folded in order to take his chances with the dealer knowing he'd have a stacked hand next round.

So, the cards come out. Going by the number of cards, we added two more potential Aces in the offseason with Cooks and Gilmore.

That already makes you feel better about going into next year against that same classless 9ers squad. And you'll have more confidence. Not because your team couldn't beat them, but because you mucked up that last play call: the snap to Zeke, the lay up for Turp to get blown up so embarrassingly like that. I'm saying that because I've been laid up like that by noodle arms and es no bueno. Thanks Coach, McCarthy. Creative play for the win — as far as who gets the blame.

Anyway, that's my theory. I'm giving Mike the benefit of the doubt knowing he's there up close, dealing with it all, and I'm not. So, I can enjoy the season, win lose or draw. Personally, I'm not going to get caught up in the winning thing right now, and just take each game as it comes.

I also vow not to worry about which seed the team gets. Just get this one into the tournament.
Mike McCarthy did not cause Zeke to have a sure TD bounce off his face. He didn’t cause Diggs to drop a sure INT or matador a huge pass play. He didn’t hurt Pollard. He didn’t miss a single K. McCarthy was not to blame at all.
 

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And what has the team done to reinforce the roster behind TP? It's almost a definite this RB room is not ready for primetime or built to last a season. Mighty mouse is a nice toy but he is an experiment not a real backup RB plan. Kick got blocked against SF not missed if I remember correctly.
I got high hopes for Malik Davis but your point is valid. We have Pollard and a bunch of question marks. Maher missing 4 extra points the week before gave everyone a feeling of anxiety going into the divisional round. I kind of wish Zeke would resign with us for cheap because like you said we have Pollard and that’s it. Again our genius FO office is using the strategy of “hope” as far as the RB room is concerned. They’re hoping Pollard stays healthy and Deuce and Malik are capable backups. Last season we hoped Tyron would stay healthy and that didn’t work. I hate how our team building strategies rely on hope.
 

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With the debates we had on Vaughn thought I would mention this. Told you you were reading too much into the opportunities he was getting with the first team in camp. :thumbup:
Whoever came up with that list is dumb. No way in hell should some players be listed above others in several different positions.
 

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Are you guys really excited about beating TB who was the worse team to ever make the playoffs? It's good Dallas won but Tampa sucked for real.
The same Tampa Bay team who beat the crap out of the Cowboys during Week 1 last year, and the same Tampa Bay team which won the Super Bowl 2 years prior?
 

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And I still can’t figure out why Malik Davis didn’t play a bigger role after Pollard went down.
You haven't heard Broadus' explanation?

Apparently, before the loss to San Fran, Davis sort of got upset for not getting any carries, and kinda quit putting in the necessary effort.
 
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