NBA 2016 Offseason: Draft, Trades & Free Agency

[CalPolyTechnique]

Mark has been apologetic about losing Chandler but he's also been somewhat short of saying he'd have matched the Knicks deal.
He got him back then let him walk again.
Chandler got wayyy too much credit for that title run and he's been on nothing but bad teams outside his Mavs stretches this past 7-8 years.
But beyond Tyson no one else on that team was even arguably worth keeping.
They left for ridiculously overpaid deals and mostly did zero away from the system.
But the biggest thing is the Mavs never had top 3 talent.
They won it with FAR less talent than Miami and arguably a couple other cities.
Mark offered everyone large 1 year deals to give it another shot but guys wanted ot cash in on the trophy with long term deals.
Same as Mark asked Parsons to opt in one more year at 16m.
Once guys decline he smartly moved on. Mark is fair but he isn't stupid.

Barnes' value will be determined by how he plays with the ball in his hands. That wasn't going to happen in GS.
But I promise you GS will miss Barnes and his athleticism as that very skilled team ages and needs more athletic defensive options.

Dallas was one of the oldest and most unathletic teams in basketball not long ago and they've taken to addressing that. Barnes definitely does so.
It was far from desperation. Dallas could have locked up Parsons had they wanted to but his knee and lifestyle are very real concerns.
This kid is 24. Curry didn't top 19 points or 6 assist per game until he turned 24. Is Barnes likely to be Curry? Of course not but you don't generally see these kids play well until they are mid 20s.
Kobe was in his 4th NBA season when he first topped 20 PPG. Barnes has had 4 thus far.
As he becomes a 2nd or 3rd option on the floor expect him to blossom.

A bigger issue with him is he's highly inconsistent and doesn't have a true scorer's mentality; he's not a guy that can create his own shot which is a quality every top scorer has.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Warriors just signed center Zaza Pachulia.

 

[jterrell]

A bigger issue with him is he's highly inconsistent and doesn't have a true scorer's mentality; he's not a guy that can create his own shot which is a quality every top scorer has.

Curry is a very ball dominant player. Barnes was a good spot up outside shooter who really didn't get paid to attack the basket in that offense.
We will see how he develops.

 

[jterrell]

Warriors just signed center Zaza Pachulia.

good low cost signing. plays hard and can rebound.
limited in offense and doesn't protect the rim. --dallas motivation for taking on bogut.
good iq and can pass the ball.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

The smaller pieces are still waiting...

Mike Beasley, Ty Lawson... hang in there..lol

I expect to see a couple of trades from teams who couldn't draw in FA's..

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Sergio (Spanish Chocolate), & Gerald Henderson to Philly...
two low key solid moves...

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

reported that 2 years 52mil was offered to D Wade by the Nuggs....

Will Lebron Sacrafice a bit & get Wade?

Will Miami & Wade let bygones be bygones?

 

[Manwiththeplan]

It's doable if Miami were to take on Iman Shumpert in a trade, but most are saying this rumor doesn't have legs.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

It's doable if Miami were to take on Iman Shumpert in a trade, but most are saying this rumor doesn't have legs.

I think it has legs as a last standing sacrifice.... I think if they move shump, & frye, and lebron gives some, they can get into the double digits.... but I don't think that happens..

I think Chicago will come in with a good number... if not, he can languish in Denver for a few bucks to end his career, or swallow his pride and go to miami.. I think he goes to the cavs before swallowing his pride... jmo of course.

 

[bounce]

SA fans really should be worried more about that than other teams at the moment. Especially since Pop has said they are a tandem deal.

People always bring this up, but it's been pointed out time and again that he has clarified MANY times that he was joking. It was a joke with SA media a long time ago, but people forget that part. He promised Aldridge he's here for the duration of his contract. He won't be here for another decade, but he's not tied to Timmy.

And SA fans aren't worried. We'll get 52-58 wins, be a top 4 seed, and see what happens in the playoffs. Again.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I actually wonder what's going to happen in OKC with Westbrook? They could just trade him and start over. Will be interesting to see how that developes.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Curry is a very ball dominant player. Barnes was a good spot up outside shooter who really didn't get paid to attack the basket in that offense.
We will see how he develops.

Lol, Curry is ball dominant?

That's just patently false.

Half of the criticism of the time when it comes to judging him in the ranks of the greatest/best PGs in the league is the fact people claim he's not a real point guard because he doesn't handle the ball a lot or dictate the offense (ala Chris Paul). The reality is in the Warriors offense Draymond Green serves as the "point forward" by taking the ball up court more often than not and starting the half-court offense.

Curry's game is predicated off running screens and stop and pop. He's not pounding the ball for 23 seconds and taking a shot.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16802373/golden-state-warriors-add-veteran-david-west

Warriors add PF David West.

 

[Fizziksman]

Lol, Curry is ball dominant?

That's just patently false.

Half of the criticism of the time when it comes to judging him in the ranks of the greatest/best PGs in the league is the fact people claim he's not a real point guard because he doesn't handle the ball a lot or dictate the offense (ala Chris Paul). The reality is in the Warriors offense Draymond Green serves as the "point forward" by taking the ball up court more often than not and starting the half-court offense.

Curry's game is predicated off running screens and stop and pop. He's not pounding the ball for 23 seconds and taking a shot.

ball dominant as in he takes a lot of shots which will usually be the end of the possession

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

ball dominant as in he takes a lot of shots which will usually be the end of the possession

That's not "ball-dominant."

He's one of the league's most efficient leading scorers (and his team's leading scorer); he's going to take shots.

Ball-dominant is when you have a player (typically a PG) who has the ball in his hands for most of the possession, controlling the pace, calling/setting up plays and dictating the offense. Gary Payton is the classic example of this. Chris Paul would be the easy current day example.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

So Chicago swoops in... going home..

D Wade...

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

So Chicago swoops in... going home..

D Wade...

Makes sense on a certain level.

 

[jterrell]

Lol, Curry is ball dominant?

That's just patently false.

Half of the criticism of the time when it comes to judging him in the ranks of the greatest/best PGs in the league is the fact people claim he's not a real point guard because he doesn't handle the ball a lot or dictate the offense (ala Chris Paul). The reality is in the Warriors offense Draymond Green serves as the "point forward" by taking the ball up court more often than not and starting the half-court offense.

Curry's game is predicated off running screens and stop and pop. He's not pounding the ball for 23 seconds and taking a shot.

No offense man but you are simply wrong. They track this stuff. Curry averages 4.2 dribbles every touch and his average touch is also 4+seconds.
He is in a high flying offense that generally gets up shots in less than 3 seconds so his numbers are higher by percentage because when they do not get quick shot it is generally him holding the ball and creating off the dribble.

Is he a hold it and pound ball into the floor guy? Not really but by GSW standards he is by far the closest thing they have.
GSW average dribbles per touch is actually the lowest in the league at 1.9. Curry is easily the highest they have.

He isn't running through 15 mins of dribbling drills before every game for fun. He dribbles and attacks a lot. He is very ball dominant within that offense.
Coming off screens is a secondary part of his game.

Interestingly enough the worst case of this in the league is Russell Westbrook. He is definitely a ball hog.
Wonder how much that had to do with KD leaving to become part of a faster offense with more shots per game?

Harrison Barnes is obviously a VERY poor man's KD. Will be fun to watch him grow in Dallas IMHO.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

No offense man but you are simply wrong. They track this stuff. Curry averages 4.2 dribbles every touch and his average touch is also 4+seconds.
He is in a high flying offense that generally gets up shots in less than 3 seconds so his numbers are higher by percentage because when they do not get quick shot it is generally him holding the ball and creating off the dribble.

Is he a hold it and pound ball into the floor guy? Not really but by GSW standards he is by far the closest thing they have.
GSW average dribbles per touch is actually the lowest in the league at 1.9. Curry is easily the highest they have.

He isn't running through 15 mins of dribbling drills before every game for fun. He dribbles and attacks a lot. He is very ball dominant within that offense.
Coming off screens is a secondary part of his game.

Interestingly enough the worst case of this in the league is Russell Westbrook. He is definitely a ball hog.
Wonder how much that had to do with KD leaving to become part of a faster offense with more shots per game?

Harrison Barnes is obviously a VERY poor man's KD. Will be fun to watch him grow in Dallas IMHO.

It's a losing battle JT. I tried for days and couldn't get those things across.

LOL......

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Boban Marjanovic 21mil from pistons