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[Diehardblues]

He was lucky he didn’t get arrested for public intoxication. That would have likely been a suspension for sure.

Vegas generally is more tolerable of public intoxication. It’s a tourist destination. Most everyone is publicly intoxicated at some point. It’s good for business and why they pour free drinks if your gambling.

 

[glimmerman]

Vegas generally is more tolerable of public intoxication. It’s a tourist destination. Most everyone is publicly intoxicated at some point. It’s good for business and why they pour free drinks if your gambling.

Love the casino. I always feel bad for the servers and tip them well when they bring my free drink. End up spending as much as if I sat at the bar.

 

[Jake]

Why would they let him go if he was drunk? That makes no sense. Most agencies give intoxication arrests high points towards their mandated public interactions per shift. I know cops who will purposefully hunt for DUI/public intoxication arrests at the beginning of their shift because it essentially gives them the rest of the evening off. Those arrests are also big money for the local area. That's completely unrelated to the guard pressing charges.

Right. I thought I was giving the benefit of the doubt and mocking those who are quick to judge. Sorry I'm not bothered by this. Guess I'm just a blind fanboy with low standards. Thanks for clearing that up. I'll check in with the Inquisitors and see how many lashes are needed to purge myself of wrongthink.

Vegas isn't most cities. They encourage drinking because it's good for the gambling business. The last thing they want is a police force that makes people afraid of appearing intoxicated in public. DUI is another matter.

As for being "quick to judge" or "bothered by this" I can only speak for myself in saying that's not the point. The point is the NFL's PC policy and how it could be applied in this case, especially since Zeke already has one strike against him. The people who go on about Zeke not being arrested and no crime being committed haven't bothered to read the policy, which doesn't require either of those things for disciplinary action.

https://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2017/08/11/0ap3000000828506.pdf

 

[CyberB0b]

He's a knucklehead. Just another in a long list of reasons why he shouldn't get a huge contract here.

 

[CATCH17]

Love the casino. I always feel bad for the servers and tip them well when they bring my free drink. End up spending as much as if I sat at the bar.

If you give them a dollar they will keep coming back haha.

 

[glimmerman]

Exactly. Plenty of people let him off easy.

Happened since he was in college. If he don’t get suspended for this (which I don’t think he should) then he should really count his blessings. Dez got into a little trouble and then finally settled down. Hoping after his suspension that he would calm and stay out of trouble. Don’t look like he will. Didn’t goodell mention banishment from the NFL for any further DV infractions.

 

[Stash]

Happened since he was in college. If he don’t get suspended for this (which I don’t think he should) then he should really count his blessings. Dez got into a little trouble and then finally settled down. Hoping after his suspension that he would calm and stay out of trouble. Don’t look like he will. Didn’t goodell mention banishment from the NFL for any further DV infractions.

I hope nothing comes of this as well, but I can't turn around and blame anyone else if it does. This was this young man's own doing.

 

[Haimerej]

Are you saying that police always charge anyone they see with public intoxication? And that it's a money-making scheme? Is that seriously what you're trying to claim here? Dig that hole even deeper.

You're the one claiming he was drunk. I'm seeing no evidence of it and I'm actually trained to see it. Also, if you don't think money motivates law enforcement then you're pretty naive.

No, you were looking foolish because you failed to think it through. That's all that you succeeded in accomplishing

I'm still waiting for any evidence he was drunk.

Lower your own standards as far as you need to in order to excuse poor behavior because he's a Cowboy. Just don't try to chastise anyone else for actually having standards.

I'm not chastising others, I'm mocking them as pearl clutching virtue signalers.

This is your cue to dismiss and demean without substance. Be sure to throw in a, "foolish," jibe, too.

 

[glimmerman]

I hope nothing comes of this as well, but I can't turn around and blame anyone else if it does. This was this young man's own doing.

There is no one else to blame. If the guard did throw out a racial slur towards him then I can better understand why he did that. But I don’t know for sure what he said. Also has anyone heard anything further about whether he apologized again or did the guard lawyer up yet. I am assuming he will be after some money.

 

[Stash]

You're the one claiming he was drunk. I'm seeing no evidence of it and I'm actually trained to see it.

Fire the "trainer" or get a refund. Your Cowboys goggles are overriding your brain.

Also, if you don't think money motivates law enforcement then you're pretty naive.

Compared to someone who thinks "the fix is in" on poor Zeke. Oblivious and ignorant enough to consider anyone else "naive". Yikes.

I'm still waiting for any evidence he was drunk.

What do you need now? A retroactive breathalyzer test?

How far are you willing to bend over here?

I'm not chastising others, I'm mocking them as pearl clutching virtue signalers.

This is your cue to dismiss and demean without substance. Be sure to throw in a, "foolish," jibe, too.

I don't have to, you do the work for me.

 

[Haimerej]

Vegas isn't most cities. They encourage drinking because it's good for the gambling business. The last thing they want is a police force that makes people afraid of appearing intoxicated in public. DUI is another matter.

Cops don't care about public intoxication? Even if there's an altercation?

As for being "quick to judge" or "bothered by this" I can only speak for myself in saying that's not the point. The point is the NFL's PC policy and how it could be applied in this case, especially since Zeke already has one strike against him. The people who go on about Zeke not being arrested and no crime being committed haven't bothered to read the policy, which doesn't require either of those things for disciplinary action.

https://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2017/08/11/0ap3000000828506.pdf

It's the point I'm making. This doesn't bother me. If he gets suspended, oh well.

 

[Stash]

There is no one else to blame. If the guard did throw out a racial slur towards him then I can better understand why he did that.

There is zero evidence of any such thing. It hasn't the tiniest shred of truth and is just some pathetic attempt at an excuse for poor behavior. And I challenge anyone that tries to use it to show even a shred of evidence, because none exists.

But I don’t know for sure what he said.

He asked him to "leave her alone". But for Cowboys excuse-makers, that's "provoking him".

Also has anyone heard anything further about whether he apologized again or did the guard lawyer up yet. I am assuming he will be after some money.

I haven't seen anything more about it. I'm sure Elliott is keeping a low profile and hoping it's just forgotten.

 

[Diehardblues]

Happened since he was in college. If he don’t get suspended for this (which I don’t think he should) then he should really count his blessings. Dez got into a little trouble and then finally settled down. Hoping after his suspension that he would calm and stay out of trouble. Don’t look like he will. Didn’t goodell mention banishment from the NFL for any further DV infractions.

Yes, 2nd DV suspension results in life banishment.

 

[Haimerej]

Fire the "trainer" or get a refund. Your Cowboys goggles are overriding your brain.

Present evidence.

Compared to someone who thinks "the fix is in" on poor Zeke. Oblivious and ignorant enough to consider anyone else "naive". Yikes.

"The fix is in"? Lol What makes you think I think that? I can't express my point of view on this?

Ever heard of a strawman?

What do you need now? A retroactive breathalyzer test?

How far are you willing to bend over here?

Actual evidence. You said he was stumbling around and acting like a fool. I didn't see the stumbling. When did he do it?

I don't have to, you do the work for me.

But you did. Did you not read what you typed?

 

[glimmerman]

Yes, 2nd DV suspension results in life banishment.

He should not go out and drink. Get himself a steady girlfriend and have quiet nights inside. Lol. Treat her very nice.

 

[Diehardblues]

He should not go out and drink. Get himself a steady girlfriend and have quiet nights inside. Lol. Treat her very nice.

Obviously he hasn’t learned his lesson.

You’d think the Cowboys would monitor his whereabouts and hire someone to chaperone, protecting their investment.

 

[Diehardblues]

Zeke is looking more like the Thug I thought he was two years ago. And an idiot too.

 

[Diehardblues]

He's a knucklehead. Just another in a long list of reasons why he shouldn't get a huge contract here.

Would he even have much trade value with his off field behavior?

 

[glimmerman]

There is zero evidence of any such thing. It hasn't the tiniest shred of truth and is just some pathetic attempt at an excuse for poor behavior. And I challenge anyone that tries to use it to show even a shred of evidence, because none exists.



He asked him to "leave her alone". But for Cowboys excuse-makers, that's "provoking him".



I haven't seen anything more about it. I'm sure Elliott is keeping a low profile and hoping it's just forgotten.

Ok. Someone was posting that they very clearly heard the guard using such word.

If he told her to leave her alone then it’s not provoking. But he isn’t the cops and don’t know what they are doing. They could have been playing around or arguing. I will go back a watch the video again, he looked drunk or confused. I am not a lawyer but this seems more about perception to goodell and how it looks for the NFL.

He better be keeping a low profile after he gives this kid a heart felt apology. Somehow I don’t think he will, unless he finds out this is gonna get into his wallet. But I don’t know him either. He is young and may get drunk and do stupid things only to get up and truly feel bad about it. I try not to judge anyone. But giving my opinion sometimes is walking the line, lol.

 

[CyberB0b]

Would he even have much trade value with his off field behavior?

I'm sure he has trade value. He's young and on his first contract. You'd probably get a first for him.