NBC: Stephen Jones denies that Dez Bryant threatened to miss time **merged**

[superonyx]

I would not be shocked or blame Dez if he holds out and only signs the franchise offer 1 year deal if we agree not to franchise him again next year.

Think about it from his perspective. Why would you risk serious injury and millions of dollars to play the 1 year franchise offer when you know the team will do the same thing to you again next summer? If you believ Dallas only plans to use you for 2 years then let you walk you would be considering the same thing.

I hope it doesn't come to that for either side.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

And if he is willing to sit out TWO whole years for a contract that he "might" get from say the jaguars etc... so be it you dont win football games with people who are that self centered...

I get the money grab but lets be real if you want to stay on this team you need to realize there is a dollar amount that cannot be exceeded before losing competitive edge salary wise as a whole

Of course ... I don't disagree. None of us fans will disagree. But were not the ones putting our bodies on the line for it

 

[superonyx]

After reading that article, I still honestly have no idea how this gives Bryant any sort of real leverage. I feel kind of dumb for not understanding. How would Bryant's "demand" that he doesn't get franchise tagged in 2016 any different than, say, a "demand" that he gets a multi-year deal with $40 million guaranteed?

I guess I'm missing something?

The article says he opts not to play at all this season unless the FO agrees to not use the franchise tag on him again. Based on what the NFLPA is saying and based on what has already happened I am sure it's pretty clear to Dez that the Cowboys plan to use him for the next 2 years and then let him walk. If he refuses to allow this to happen and he refuses to let the chance of his one huge contract pass him by then he may have to do this.

Imagine if Romo gets hurt and he is forced to play catch with Weeden and a rookie next year. His stats will be in the garbage and his payday will be smaller...plus he will be 2 years older in a game where 28 is considered old.

 

[Nightman]

I would not be shocked or blame Dez if he holds out and only signs the franchise offer 1 year deal if we agree not to franchise him again next year.

Think about it from his perspective. Why would you risk serious injury and millions of dollars to play the 1 year franchise offer when you know the team will do the same thing to you again next summer? If you believ Dallas only plans to use you for 2 years then let you walk you would be considering the same thing.

I hope it doesn't come to that for either side.

Because he would have guaranteed himself 28m by next March, with 13m already banked

and

he will still be a 28 year old Free agent after 2016 with a chance to bank another 50m

the tag is very very good to Dez

 

[guag]

The article says he opts not to play at all this season unless the FO agrees to not use the franchise tag on him again. Based on what the NFLPA is saying and based on what has already happened I am sure it's pretty clear to Dez that the Cowboys plan to use him for the next 2 years and then let him walk. If he refuses to allow this to happen and he refuses to let the chance of his one huge contract pass him by then he may have to do this.

Imagine if Romo gets hurt and he is forced to play catch with Weeden and a rookie next year. His stats will be in the garbage and his payday will be smaller...plus he will be 2 years older in a game where 28 is considered old.

But wouldn't he end up hurting himself even more by not playing at all? Sure it would hurt the team initially, but they'd sign a vet to take his place. He'd be essentially throwing away a year's salary out of principle, even though he could have at least made something.

Whether he chooses to play or not, don't the Cowboys have his rights until 2017 (or however long they choose to tag him)? Even if Bryant doesn't play in 2015 and threatened to sit out 2016, the Cowboys could be spiteful and tag him anyway, and let him rot until 2017. I can't imagine that his chances of getting a $16+ million/year are going to be better after sitting out for 2 years in a row.

 

[guag]

Actually, if Dez does sit out the entire year and doesn't sign his tag, does that make him a UFA in 2016? Would the Cowboys then be able to do the same thing? I'm pretty sure that no matter what Dez does or doesn't do, the Cowboys have all rights to him for 2 years unless they choose to dump him.

I suppose if Dez really needs his money as much as some are speculating, he'll cave and sign the Cowboys offer by tomorrow. If he doesn't, then that probably tells you that he's not as bad off money-wise as some think.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

You're welcome lol I don't think it would be smart, but someone would pay him in total of more than what he lost

They can have him now if they give us 2 #1 picks. Why not shoot for the moon now. lol

 

[dwreck27]

Of course ... I don't disagree. None of us fans will disagree. But were not the ones putting our bodies on the line for it

Its football... We have more danger every day driving to work.

These boys aren't forced at gunpoint to throw a football around... You dont like the contact finish school and get a job and be a productive member of society like the rest of us

 

[dwreck27]

They can have him now if they give us 2 #1 picks. Why not shoot for the moon now. lol

When shall we start the new threads looking at the 2016 potential WR class?? jk of course!

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

After reading that article, I still honestly have no idea how this gives Bryant any sort of real leverage. I feel kind of dumb for not understanding. How would Bryant's "demand" that he doesn't get franchise tagged in 2016 any different than, say, a "demand" that he gets a multi-year deal with $40 million guaranteed?

I guess I'm missing something?

Its really his only leverage. Seems small but its all he has.

 

[chris1995]

Come on Jones get this deal done, time is running out.

 

[guag]

Its really his only leverage. Seems small but its all he has.

That's true I suppose. I guess I can kinda see how it might give Dez something to use. But it just seems so unlikely to phase the FO enough to really make a difference.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

That's true I suppose. I guess I can kinda see how it might give Dez something to use. But it just seems so unlikely to phase the FO enough to really make a difference.

I would agree, but Im sure Dez is hoping . . . .

 

[superonyx]

But wouldn't he end up hurting himself even more by not playing at all? Sure it would hurt the team initially, but they'd sign a vet to take his place. He'd be essentially throwing away a year's salary out of principle, even though he could have at least made something.

Whether he chooses to play or not, don't the Cowboys have his rights until 2017 (or however long they choose to tag him)? Even if Bryant doesn't play in 2015 and threatened to sit out 2016, the Cowboys could be spiteful and tag him anyway, and let him rot until 2017. I can't imagine that his chances of getting a $16+ million/year are going to be better after sitting out for 2 years in a row.

All of your points are spot on. It's a gamble. Just like the Cowboys are gambling that he won't sit out Dez would be gambling that Dallas won't keep him around when he refuses to play for a season.

I am a Cowboys fan with or without Dez...but I still in my gut feel they didn't really negotiate with Murray with intentions of keeping him and I feel they are most likely doing the same with Dez. I hope we are not guilty of trying to be the Patriots when we have not established a system of winning like the Patriots have.

Being honest don't you also question if our FO really cares that much about getting a deal done? They have the power card and they planned to play it before Dez's catch was ruled a non catch in Green Bay.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

Come on Jones get this deal done, time is running out.

I don't think the onus is on Jones to get this deal done. Dez sounds pretty unreasonable from all the latest reports.

 

[chris1995]

I don't think the onus is on Jones to get this deal done. Dez sounds pretty unreasonable from all the latest reports.

Ok then, DEZ and the Jones get the deal done.

 

[guag]

I would agree, but Im sure Dez is hoping . . . .

Sure. I guess my thinking is that if the Cowboys truly believe that he really needs this money, they know that he's bluffing about sitting out. Obviously the Cowboys organization knows a whole lot more about Dez and what his environment is like compared to us or anyone else (except his family and friends obviously). So if they believe that he has money issues, they may have good reason to believe it, and I can see how they would be confident that he's bluffing.

 

[Garrettop]

Here's something Dez may or may not have been blinded to by the leeches on him that refer to themselves as advisors: That extra million or two he is angling sooooo hard for is going to be long gone to the wind (given statistical probability along with his personal track record) in his later years, while glorious experiences on the gridiron will still be with him. No one should try to start reaching for sobstories about financially broke NFL vets with broken minds and bodies to relate to this situation: Dez is going to be a multimillionaire either way. But he could jeopardize something that you could never squander.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

Ok then, DEZ and the Jones get the deal done.

Agreed.

Dez, take the $12.8 million per and be on a Super Bowl team.

 

[guag]

All of your points are spot on. It's a gamble. Just like the Cowboys are gambling that he won't sit out Dez would be gambling that Dallas won't keep him around when he refuses to play for a season.

I am a Cowboys fan with or without Dez...but I still in my gut feel they didn't really negotiate with Murray with intentions of keeping him and I feel they are most likely doing the same with Dez. I hope we are not guilty of trying to be the Patriots when we have not established a system of winning like the Patriots have.

Being honest don't you also question if our FO really cares that much about getting a deal done? They have the power card and they planned to play it before Dez's catch was ruled a non catch in Green Bay.

I agree and got the same feeling about the FO in regards to Murray. It seemed like they were all, "eh, here's what we'll give you to stay with us. have your people call our people if you're interested. otherwise, have a nice life". And considering what I heard about how the FO hasn't changed their offer in months to Dez, I can see why people might think this is happening with Dez. But I truly believe the FO wants to retain Dez, but only for the right price.