NBC: Stephen Jones denies that Dez Bryant threatened to miss time **merged**

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I'm not sure why the Cowboys would reward Dez by giving him a higher contract to mitigate any game checks he'd lose by sitting out. I just don't see this FO getting played.
 

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I'm not sure why the Cowboys would reward Dez by giving him a higher contract to mitigate any game checks he'd lose by sitting out. I just don't see this FO getting played.

And compound that by denouncing their rights to franchise him next year, thus putting themselves in a situation where they would have zero leverage in the following year and be forced to pay whatever his contract demands might be or face losing him to unrestricted FA with zero compensation. Yeah, I think I can see why this has not received wide spread discussion or consideration.
 

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And compound that by denouncing their rights to franchise him next year, thus putting themselves in a situation where they would have zero leverage in the following year and be forced to pay whatever his contract demands might be or face losing him to unrestricted FA with zero compensation. Yeah, I think I can see why this has not received wide spread discussion or consideration.

It makes perfect sense...to an idiot. lol
 

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You're welcome lol I don't think it would be smart, but someone would pay him in total of more than what he lost

And if he is willing to sit out TWO whole years for a contract that he "might" get from say the jaguars etc... so be it you dont win football games with people who are that self centered...

I get the money grab but lets be real if you want to stay on this team you need to realize there is a dollar amount that cannot be exceeded before losing competitive edge salary wise as a whole
 

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And if he is willing to sit out TWO whole years for a contract that he "might" get from say the jaguars etc... so be it you dont win football games with people who are that self centered...

I get the money grab but lets be real if you want to stay on this team you need to realize there is a dollar amount that cannot be exceeded before losing competitive edge salary wise as a whole

Romo, TSmith, Lee, OScan and Free all took less to stay a Cowboy.

Dez talks a good game, but so far it is only talk.
 

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If he plays this card and they go 3-1, Dez is going to look stupid.
 

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You can sign a one year deal
But why would a team do that. The player isn't going to sign for less than the tag and you still have the same situation next year. If a team wasn't intending to tag a player the second year I guess there could be some benefit but I think Dallas plans on dez being here at least two years so there is no incentive for them to do that
Personally I still think a deal gets done. I think dez wants to be here, the team wants him, so it comes down to will dez get off the highest paid WR ideal
 

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Dallas would be giving up the value of 1st and 3rd picks for Dez doing what he is being paid 13m to do.

They only agreed not to tag Hardy because he was a FA with special circumstances with the suspension.
 

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It's been discussed

I still don't quite understand all the drama.

If Dallas wasn't interested in paying Murray his market value..

I don't know why anybody would believe Dallas would pay Dez more than twice that amount for Dez.

And certainly not over a 4-5 year deal.

We just got over straightening out a decade old bad cap that stopped the team from improving causing all the 8-8 seasons.

Why would the team mortgage the future again with a Mega Deal for Dez and in 2-3 years start losing the OL guys and our good young defensive guys?

I think we let Dez do whatever he wants to do and we just move on and save the money.

It takes 53 guys to win.

Not 1 or 2.

Dez forgets like Ware and others have.

The Cowboys have put a good team and coaches around him for him to succeed.

If he goes to another team that has the cap to afford him..chances are it's going to be a bottom-feeding team with not alot of stars there to support winning.

He starts over and his star may not shine like in Dallas.

Can his ego accept that?

Not sure.

He gets easily frustrated at times and disappears at times.

Not sure you would not take that into account when deciding on a long-term deal.

I think the Cowboys are leary.

I would be, too.

We have invested large in WR'S over the last 10 years withless than needed results.

Are we going to do that again?
 

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I still don't quite understand all the drama.

If Dallas wasn't interested in paying Murray his market value..

I don't know why anybody would believe Dallas would pay Dez more than twice that amount for Dez.

And certainly not over a 4-5 year deal.

We just got over straightening out a decade old bad cap that stopped the team from improving causing all the 8-8 seasons.

Why would the team mortgage the future again with a Mega Deal for Dez and in 2-3 years start losing the OL guys and our good young defensive guys?

I think we let Dez do whatever he wants to do and we just move on and save the money.

It takes 53 guys to win.

Not 1 or 2.

Dez forgets like Ware and others have.

The Cowboys have put a good team and coaches around him for him to succeed.

If he goes to another team that has the cap to afford him..chances are it's going to be a bottom-feeding team with not alot of stars there to support winning.

He starts over and his star may not shine like in Dallas.

Can his ego accept that?

Not sure.

He gets easily frustrated at times and disappears at times.

Not sure you would not take that into account when deciding on a long-term deal.

I think the Cowboys are leary.

I would be, too.

We have invested large in WR'S over the last 10 years withless than needed results.

Are we going to do that again?

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If he plays this card and they go 3-1, Dez is going to look stupid.

And the team would be stupid to think we'd end up continuing at that pace over the remaining six games he could hold out.

There is no realistic scenario that makes Dez look replaceable
 

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After reading that article, I still honestly have no idea how this gives Bryant any sort of real leverage. I feel kind of dumb for not understanding. How would Bryant's "demand" that he doesn't get franchise tagged in 2016 any different than, say, a "demand" that he gets a multi-year deal with $40 million guaranteed?

I guess I'm missing something? :oops:
 

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I still don't quite understand all the drama.

If Dallas wasn't interested in paying Murray his market value..

I don't know why anybody would believe Dallas would pay Dez more than twice that amount for Dez.

And certainly not over a 4-5 year deal.

We just got over straightening out a decade old bad cap that stopped the team from improving causing all the 8-8 seasons.

Why would the team mortgage the future again with a Mega Deal for Dez and in 2-3 years start losing the OL guys and our good young defensive guys?

I think we let Dez do whatever he wants to do and we just move on and save the money.

It takes 53 guys to win.

Not 1 or 2.

Dez forgets like Ware and others have.

The Cowboys have put a good team and coaches around him for him to succeed.

If he goes to another team that has the cap to afford him..chances are it's going to be a bottom-feeding team with not alot of stars there to support winning.

He starts over and his star may not shine like in Dallas.

Can his ego accept that?

Not sure.

He gets easily frustrated at times and disappears at times.

Not sure you would not take that into account when deciding on a long-term deal.

I think the Cowboys are leary.

I would be, too.

We have invested large in WR'S over the last 10 years withless than needed results.

Are we going to do that again?

There was a difference with Murray
He had been healthy one year, he is a RB with lots of miles on the tires and historically when a RB has the carries he had last year they drop off quickly
No mega deal for dez but if he is willing to play for market value which appears to be high 12 low 13 mil range then that's a fair deal
If he wants paid like CJ then I tag him, maybe twice and move on. There is a good argument to be made that's smarter than signing him but I also have respect for the players so I would rather sign him, if he wants market value
 
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