NBC: Stephen Jones denies that Dez Bryant threatened to miss time **merged**

[WoodysGirl]

I see Fisher is in snark overdrive on twitter.

 

[rynochop]

I'm not sure what leverage Dez has here by doing this. I guess he can sign after the 10th or 11th game so it counts as a year?

No, this is not true. He loses a game check each week. The owners arent that dumb to agree to let players have that kind of leverage

 

[bayeslife]

For those of you saying that this is no big deal, please keep in mind we have no shot at getting back to the playoffs without Dez.

 

[cowboyvic]

See you in November I guess? If a deal doesn't get done and he's going to sit at home and pout about it I'd tag him this year, tag him next year, and then let him walk.

I keep trying to beat it in some of you guys head that Dez is not going to sit out the season. he is going to play this year. so that's not the point. the point is you won't get the same Dez. you think you are going to the playoffs with no Murray, and an uphappy Dez. i sure don't. if Dez is not the same Dez. this team is in trouble at WR.

 

[xwalker]

He has already DONE THAT! Did fans or the team have any issue with him being underpaid the last few years? You think agents and players let that go unnoticed? Actually, Dez did. He has been underpaid for a LONG time. And has not complained ONCE! Now it is time to be paid like he SHOULD....and now we got a problem. But again...there was no problem when his production outweighed his compensation. But now he wants to be compensated according to his production, impact and status on the team...and here we are with big problems!

He was not underpaid relative to the system. It's part of what you have to do to get to the next level (2nd contract). It's similar to people that have to get a college degree to get to their next level.

Do you remember when Dez got into trouble for not paying the 600K for Jewelry? Jerry was able to advance him money on his contract to get him out of trouble. The Cowboys also spent a lot of time and effort dealing with his off field shenanigans over the years which is something that Detroit never had to do with Calvin Johnson. Where is the loyalty from Dez to the Cowboys for all they've done for him?

 

[remdak]

I wouldn't call him dumb for holding out. I get it that once the deal isn't done it doesn't really help him force the deal to get done week 1. However it may send a message for next seasons negotiations.

I don't worry about him holding out. I worry more about him becoming jaded and losing the love and enthusiasm he has for this team. I worry more about him starting to make business decisions when his leg feels a little cramped up. I wouldn't blame him if this is what happens. The team has made it crystal clear that its a business so how can we fault him for treating it the same way. Its a shame really...

That said....we don't know why the deal isn't done. We don't know if Dez is asking for too much money or if the Jones are offering too little money. It may even be about guarantees. We saw how the FO treated Murray over guarantees.

I wonder why Sean Lee and Tyron Smith didn't have to go through these gyrations to get the lucrative deals they got?

Tyron Smith signed a very team friendly deal as did Sean Lee.

 

[Kevinicus]

This is simply Dez playing the one negotiating card he has. Unfortunately for him, it's a pretty weak card.

 

[Nation]

I keep trying to beat it in some of you guys head that Dez is not going to sit out the season. he is going to play this year. so that's not the point. the point is you won't get the same Dez. you think you are going to the playoffs with no Murray, and an uphappy Dez. i sure don't. if Dez is not the same Dez. this team is in trouble at WR.

Say we sign him to a long-term deal on Wednesday. And then in three years OBJ and Mike Evans and others have reset the market on receiver contracts, and Dez is no longer paid like a top tier receiver. Is he then going to again be unhappy where we have to worry about the production he gives? And if so why are we signing him long-term at all? He'll be paid well enough this year to take an insurance policy out on himself if he feels the need for it. But he needs to just shut up and play.

 

[CowboyGil]

I wouldn't call him dumb for holding out. I get it that once the deal isn't done it doesn't really help him force the deal to get done week 1. However it may send a message for next seasons negotiations.

I don't worry about him holding out. I worry more about him becoming jaded and losing the love and enthusiasm he has for this team. I worry more about him starting to make business decisions when his leg feels a little cramped up. I wouldn't blame him if this is what happens. The team has made it crystal clear that its a business so how can we fault him for treating it the same way. Its a shame really...

That said....we don't know why the deal isn't done. We don't know if Dez is asking for too much money or if the Jones are offering too little money. It may even be about guarantees. We saw how the FO treated Murray over guarantees.

I wonder why Sean Lee and Tyron Smith didn't have to go through these gyrations to get the lucrative deals they got?

Sean Lee's injuries pretty much forced him to sign a team friendly deal. And Tyron, because he helps keep Romo upright and gives him the time to throw to Dez.

 

[cowboyvic]

This is simply Dez playing the one negotiating card he has. Unfortunately for him, it's a pretty weak card.

We are about to find out if that's true. Jerry and his son have played with fire with this. they may get burned.even when Dez comes back. i don't see him being the same Dez if he does not have a long term deal.letting Murray go, and not paying this man is just stupid.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

For those of you saying that this is no big deal, please keep in mind we have no shot at getting back to the playoffs without Dez.

You are correct sir. And there is only ONE other player on the team we can say that about....Romo. We have already announced we can live without Murray. But Dallas needs to understand that if they want to maximize the little prime time Romo has left...we need Dez.

 

[xpistofer]

I am glad for the fiscal responsibility, and hope the team stays on that track. Super Bowl contenders don't have large portions of salary cap tied up in one wide receiver, no matter how good, and no matter how beloved.

 

[Idgit]

Sources said this? You don't say.

This one I find somewhat believable, given the possibility his agent is posturing. It's still rumor mongering until someone gets named.

Either way, Dez controls when he signs. If he's dumb enough to sit in this situation, he sits. That's how it works.

 

[erod]

If Dez missed games because he's on the franchise tag, he's the dumbest human ever to wear an NFL uniform.

 

[cowboyvic]

Say we sign him to a long-term deal on Wednesday. And then in three years OBJ and Mike Evans and others have reset the market on receiver contracts, and Dez is no longer paid like a top tier receiver. Is he then going to again be unhappy where we have to worry about the production he gives? And if so why are we signing him long-term at all? He'll be paid well enough this year to take an insurance policy out on himself if he feels the need for it. But he needs to just shut up and play.

Sounds good. but that's not the way business works. Dez is doing business. why don't some of you get it ?

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

He was not underpaid relative to the system. It's part of what you have to do to get to the next level (2nd contract). It's similar to people that have to get a college degree to get to their next level.

Do you remember when Dez got into trouble for not paying the 600K for Jewelry? Jerry was able to advance him money on his contract to get him out of trouble. The Cowboys also spent a lot of time and effort dealing with his off field shenanigans over the years which is something that Detroit never had to do with Calvin Johnson. Where is the loyalty from Dez to the Cowboys for all they've done for him?

Loyalty? Did he not show up every week and ball out? I don't have the numbers in front of me....but did Dez lead the league in receiving TDs last year while making 2m/year? Did he once complain about the fact that he has been a top 3 WR for the last 3 years...but paid like he was in the bottom 3rd of the league?

 

[Garrettop]

Tyron Smith vs Dez Bryant. Two players playing extremely important positions in the modern NFL. Two men coming from embattled pasts to place themselves in the conversation over the best best players at these important positions. 1 man you never hear from until 100 mil Cowboys for life deal is signed - and then you don't hear from him again. All we do is hear from Dez - and he is getting the Spencer treatment. Talent is funneling into WR like never before, and while Dez is great he simply isn't worth CJ money (CJ wasn't worth CJ money) to begin with, and holdout threats when there couldn't even be a deal signed at the time of the holdout for that year makes him appear to be worth even less.

 

[xwalker]

I wouldn't call him dumb for holding out. I get it that once the deal isn't done it doesn't really help him force the deal to get done week 1. However it may send a message for next seasons negotiations.

I don't worry about him holding out. I worry more about him becoming jaded and losing the love and enthusiasm he has for this team. I worry more about him starting to make business decisions when his leg feels a little cramped up. I wouldn't blame him if this is what happens. The team has made it crystal clear that its a business so how can we fault him for treating it the same way. Its a shame really...

That said....we don't know why the deal isn't done. We don't know if Dez is asking for too much money or if the Jones are offering too little money. It may even be about guarantees. We saw how the FO treated Murray over guarantees.

I wonder why Sean Lee and Tyron Smith didn't have to go through these gyrations to get the lucrative deals they got?

He will get paid 12.8M on the Tag. His total earning for all 5 years of his career have been about 11M. I don't think he'll be feeling too sad once he actually starts getting the big paychecks. It's like haggling on the price of a new car. It seems like a really big deal at the time, but once it's done you don't really think about it. Your enjoyment of the car is based on how it performs, not whether or not you got it for a few thousand more or less than you wanted to pay.

It is highly likely that the Cowboys are offering to make him the 2nd highest paid WR in the NFL. It's his fault if he refuses to sign the offer.

Tyron signed a 110 million contract with no hassles. The Cowboys would easily give Dez that contract. Is he really that much more valuable than Tyron? Tyron got 22M guaranteed, but in reality more money will be pseudo-guaranteed because they'll restructure his contract every year giving him guaranteed bonuses up front in place of non-guaranteed base salary. Dez wants over 40M guaranteed according to most reports; however, the probability that Tyron won't make at least 40M is very very low even though he was not technically guaranteed that much.

 

[cowboyvic]

You are correct sir. And there is only ONE other player on the team we can say that about....Romo. We have already announced we can live without Murray. But Dallas needs to understand that if they want to maximize the little prime time Romo has left...we need Dez.

you post is right on the money. Jerry better wake up and put Stephen in his place, before it's to late. cowboys fans, Romo and Witten deserve better than this.

 

[erod]

We are about to find out if that's true. Jerry and his son have played with fire with this. they may get burned.even when Dez comes back. i don't see him being the same Dez if he does not have a long term deal.letting Murray go, and not paying this man is just stupid.

Dez likely has 2-3 dominant years left before the inevitable downturn begins. Dallas owns two of those years with franchise tags right now.

The pressure is on Dez, not Dallas. The Cowboys are handling this beautifully.

If he wants more money and security, he has to drop his demands a bit. Dallas has to do.......NOTHING.