New Dallas Cowboy Greg Hardy: 'I don't care if [you] like me'

[iceberg]

Fine you choice to defend the guy whatever floats your boat. He is a heck of a guy. lol

show me where i've defended him. asking for evidence, asking you to prove he did it, asking for witnesses you say exist, is defending him?

i'm not this mindless mod voice you seem to be mad at and if you can't talk to me 1:1, i'll stop.

that simple.

 

[iceberg]

They are right no one is perfect, I child molester is not perfect but I despise them with all my heart, I despise a man who would hit a woman. If that is being on one’s high horse fine. To think for a second that all one has to do is perform on a football field and all is forgiven is amazing

so no to an actual witness and yes to nonsense. got it. while you may think it clever by lobbing in a child mol, you're doing that for yourself. not me.

have a nice day.

 

[Doomsday101]

i've not found a witness yet who was there to actually see it. can you provide some names?

i just find it odd you're so willing to hate one side of a "story" but give all leeway to the other side. he either did it or he didn't.

witnesses who were there while it happened would help a lot. if those don't exist, then i can't say she's right, he's wrong, and be happy with myself. that's just not right.

and I'm sorry say well women beat themselves up and it was all her. lol sounds like you willing to take a side. He was found guilty, once the appeal took place and she got her money and split the DA did not pursue it and dropped charges but there was enough there to convict to begin with that is why he was found guilty

 

[iceberg]

and I'm sorry say well women beat themselves up and it was all her. lol sounds like you willing to take a side. He was found guilty, once the appeal took place and she got her money and split the DA did not pursue it and dropped charges but there was enough there to convict to begin with that is why he was found guilty

last call for witnesses...

and stop putting words in my mouth. i've said i've seen women do this before. i have no idea if she did it here and if you have no witness, you don't either.

but judge away. you seem to be having fun and i'm gonna bow out now. if you want to continue to giggle at me about it, offline please.

 

[Doomsday101]

so no to an actual witness and yes to nonsense. got it. while you may think it clever by lobbing in a child mol, you're doing that for yourself. not me.

have a nice day.

I don't condone the behavior is the point I don't care who you are. I don't care if he is the best NFL player ever to play the game it is a fricken game it is not that damn important and I will not make excuses or defend a scum bag

 

[iceberg]

I don't condone the behavior is the point I don't care who you are. I don't care if he is the best NFL player ever to play the game it is a fricken game it is not that damn important and I will not make excuses or defend a scum bag

or look for witnesses apparently. wanting all the facts does NOT equal condoning a thing.

 

[Rockport]

But you make more money when you win.
Teams sign (or want to sign) the best players because they want to win. Winning brings more fans to your stadium = more dollars. Winning gets more people buying your team paraphernalia = more dollars. Winning brings your team and your players more exposure = more dollars.

If Hardy is the best pass rusher available, why wouldn't a team want him on the roster to help in the above endeavors?

They didn't want him because of his baggage. And they determined that the baggage he brings isn't going to be as monetarily rewarding as his contributions to a winning team.

As for my red flags, they've been given. If you dismiss them, so be it.

You don't or refuse to get my meaning about the $$$ so I give up on you.

Oh you mean THE red flag and not the red flagS.

 

[Rockport]

They have witness, they have police who went to the house they have a woman who was beat up and I highly doubt she beat herself up. Judge found him guilty and Hardy then appealed the case. So it is not as if judgment had not been rendered to begin with.

I have yet to see any of that evidence other than heresay. I'm talking of physical evidence like a picture or video or eye witnesses. You say they have witnesses but who are these witnesses and where's their testimony?

 

[Doomsday101]

I have yet to see any of that evidence other than heresay. I'm talking of physical evidence like a picture or video or eye witnesses. You say they have witnesses but who are these witnesses and where's their testimony?

enough to be found guilty to begin with which he was. Police saw her and indicated she had been beat up. Really does not matter, you got a pass rusher now.

 

[iceberg]

I have yet to see any of that evidence other than heresay. I'm talking of physical evidence like a picture or video or eye witnesses. You say they have witnesses but who are these witnesses and where's their testimony?

i've given up asking for these "witnesses" as it always comes back to "i hate women beaters so i hate him". why that makes it ok to simply "lie" i have no idea. but to them, it's fine. hate that strong.

seems to be all he needs. an accusation. i hope he never finds himself in a situation where he's unjustly blamed and if so, i hope people take the time to see all sides, not just believe the poor girl.

it just sucks to have people so blinded they won't be open to the possibility they're wrong about someone. i have no idea if he did it or not but i can't find anything credible, much less witnesses, who say it's true. so no, i don't care who blames who of what. we're *supposed* to be innocent until proven guilty, not accused

 

[Nightman]

I heard that Hardy is officially taking #76 and Okoye is taking #99

 

[iceberg]

enough to be found guilty to begin with which he was. Police saw her and indicated she had been beat up. Really does not matter, you got a pass rusher now.

wake me up when you're done. i just can't read this anymore. you keep saying things we've NOT said, refuse to follow up on a single thing YOU said (ie, there are witnesses) and now you just want to assume everyone who doesn't agree with you is just an NFL junkie w/o morals.

not sure whats up in your life, bro. but you've never been this unreasonable before. so yea, when you're done with this let me know.

 

[Doomsday101]

i've given up asking for these "witnesses" as it always comes back to "i hate women beaters so i hate him".

seems to be all he needs. an accusation. i hope he never finds himself in a situation where he's unjustly blamed and if so, i hope people take the time to see all sides, not just believe the poor girl.

it just sucks to have people so blinded they won't be open to the possibility they're wrong about someone. i have no idea if he did it or not but i can't find anything credible, much less witnesses, who say it's true. so no, i don't care who blames who of what. we're *supposed* to be innocent until proven guilty, not accused

His next door neighbor had talked with police about what he saw and heard but did not give a name out of fear. I'm sure you will dismiss this as well but fact is the court did find him guilty. instead of facing civil case he reached a settlement with her

 

[Doomsday101]

wake me up when you're done. i just can't read this anymore. you keep saying things we've NOT said, refuse to follow up on a single thing YOU said (ie, there are witnesses) and now you just want to assume everyone who doesn't agree with you is just an NFL junkie w/o morals.

not sure whats up in your life, bro. but you've never been this unreasonable before. so yea, when you're done with this let me know.

same here wake me up you want to defend him fine that is your choice he was found guilty as anyone he had the right to appeal she was giving money in a settlement and ran out on the DA which they then dropped charges.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

I have yet to see any of that evidence other than heresay. I'm talking of physical evidence like a picture or video or eye witnesses. You say they have witnesses but who are these witnesses and where's their testimony?

The guys who are ripping on Hardy generally aren't concerned with evidence. It makes them feel good about themselves to pass moral judgment on others, whether or not that judgment is appropriate. So they judge. And be careful about calling them on their rush to judgment: that might cause them to call your integrity into question too. Soon enough it becomes apparent that they're not interested in truth. They're not interested in justice. They're not interested in logic. They're just interested in pointing fingers, hurling epithets and telling us (directly and indirectly) how righteous they are. The only way of dealing with it is to laugh and bow out of the discussion. Too much rides on it -- in fact, their whole puffed up image of themselves is at stake -- for them to allow reason to persuade them.

 

[iceberg]

The guys who are ripping on Hardy generally aren't concerned with evidence. It makes them feel good about themselves to pass moral judgment on others, whether or not that judgment is appropriate. So they judge. And be careful about calling them on their rush to judgment: that might cause them to call your integrity into question too. Soon enough it becomes apparent that they're not interested in truth. They're not interested in justice. They're not interested in logic. They're just interested in pointing fingers, hurling epithets and telling us (directly and indirectly) how righteous they are. The only way of dealing with it is to laugh and bow out of the discussion. Too much rides on it -- in fact, they're whole puffed up image of themselves is at stake -- for them to allow reason to persuade them.

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[Outlaw Heroes]

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I get it. It actually hurt me to type it, but in the end it just needed to be said.

 

[Fletch]

 

[erod]

You might have considered checking your logic at the door, given its obvious flaws. Among other things, you haven't even realized that this doesn't approach being a question of integrity until you can definitively establish his guilt (even then, it's doubtful that "integrity" calls for interfering with his livelihood where the legal system has otherwise determined not to punish him).

But feel free to take more backhanded swipes. They're all you have, given that the arguments aren't on your side.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over your pom-poms.

 

[iceberg]

I get it. It actually hurt me to type it, but in the end it just needed to be said.

no, i totally get it too. if we had more than 2 people giving accounts of a story, that's one thing; but we don't. some will say that hardy was given his trial and found guilty and the rest is payday and conspiracy!

without a single fact to cover it up.

hardy did what he was allowed to do UNDER LAW and his every legal right to do.
she left.

to say she was paid and told to shut up is one story, to be sure.
but with the very same evidence, i can say she knew her past would be trouble so she took the money and ran vs. seeing it through.

which is true?

for most, waiting on more facts and "witnesses".

for others, whatever they need to be true, is. twist reality a bit and you're right bout it.

in my mind i simply can't do that. doesn't mean i condone a thing (despite the crys out that i'm evil and do) it just means there isn't enough to make such a drastic call on in a factual environment.

but the emotional one is all used up now.