NewyScruggs Blog: Wade Phillips Stands Behind Michael Vick

[Pats Fan]

Well, I read what your new coach wrote and said WHAT!!

I simply do not understand it. Never will understand it.

Have we sunk so low that we think the killing dogs in very inhumane circumstances is just OK???

Have we hit that level??? What next???

I pray and hope that we are civilized people. I hope we educate our children to respect our land, our country, our traditions. And that we educate our young.

Is it just me that thinks that killing for fun is wrong??? Not just killing, making it hurt, in the most inhumane method possible. And enjoying it.

Have we really sunk to such levels.

God help us.

BB may be a sour face guy. But he is no lover of hate. Your guy.

 

[Pats Fan]

Your guy, that is, Wade.

Good luck and good night.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Don't include me in that we. i laugh at people that can condemn killing dogs and then somehow rationalize killing pretty much every other animal on the planet with impunity.

The legality behind is based on sentiment and nothing promoting rational thought.

Yeah. well said! Not you Fuzzy but the guy who blasted yur views.

I never saw no deer rescue Timmy from the deserted well. Guess who it was?
I'll tell you who it was, it was sparky the dog. Wait. It was Lucky the dog. Well, it was a dog who rescued him!!

And have you ever seen a seeing-eye deer? Or deer sniffing the remains of a collapsed building looking for survivors. And since when do deer sniff out truffles in France? Huh? Yeah, no answer. And have you seen deer riding on firetrucks??????
Well, I think I have stated my case. And an air-tight case it is. Dogs are good and deer just damage your car on the highway!

Oh, you make me so mad. Makes me want to go out and shoot deers.

 

[Stautner]

While I don't agree that dog fighting is anything close to killing cattle, I do agree that the entertainment value of the sport of dogfighting is very close to the entertainment value of ultimate fighting.

Choice really has no bearing on entertainment value, either you like watching two human beings or dogs beat the crap out of each other or it pretty much makes you sick IMO.

But the thing is that you can't separate out choice.

If humans choose to engage in brutal combat then let them have at it, but dogs don't have a choice.

What you choose to do to yourself is fine - what you choose to do to other creatures is another thing.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Don't include me in that we. i laugh at people that can condemn killing dogs and then somehow rationalize killing pretty much every other animal on the planet with impunity.

Like most everything else, moral relativism and cultural perogatives dictate our actions and beliefs.

If you have been able to define the sanctity of all animal life absolutely, I applaud you.

And even more so if you have been able to live by it.

For me, the primacy of humans triumphs all, so while I don't eat my pet guinea pigs, I can't condemn South Americans who still use them as a major protein source (much as we do chickens). And altho I detest the inhumane testing and housing of lab animals, I have no problem with properly conducted experimentation and drug testing on animals to ultimately eliminate human suffering.

 

[Vintage]

Well, I read what your new coach wrote and said WHAT!!

I simply do not understand it. Never will understand it.

Have we sunk so low that we think the killing dogs in very inhumane circumstances is just OK???

Have we hit that level??? What next???

I pray and hope that we are civilized people. I hope we educate our children to respect our land, our country, our traditions. And that we educate our young.

Is it just me that thinks that killing for fun is wrong??? Not just killing, making it hurt, in the most inhumane method possible. And enjoying it.

Have we really sunk to such levels.

God help us.

BB may be a sour face guy. But he is no lover of hate. Your guy.

I guess asking you to actually read and/or comprehend would be too much.

 

[5Stars]

But the thing is that you can't separate out choice.

If humans choose to engage in brutal combat then let them have at it, but dogs don't have a choice.

What you choose to do to yourself is fine - what you choose to do to other creatures is another thing.

I've already tried that, Stautner. I explained how one has "free will" and the other does not...it goes right over the heads of some of these people!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yeah. well said! Not you Fuzzy but the guy who blasted yur views.

I never saw no deer rescue Timmy from the deserted well. Guess who it was?
I'll tell you who it was, it was sparky the dog. Wait. It was Lucky the dog. Well, it was a dog who rescued him!!

And have you ever seen a seeing-eye deer? Or deer sniffing the remains of a collapsed building looking for survivors. And since when do deer sniff out truffles in France? Huh? Yeah, no answer. And have you seen deer riding on firetrucks??????
Well, I think I have stated my case. And an air-tight case it is. Dogs are good and deer just damage your car on the highway!

Oh, you make me so mad. Makes me want to go out and shoot deers.

Oh so somebody has to do something for you in order to merit protection. How noble of you. If you want to go utilitarian on this there is after all another side to that story.

 

[Hoov]

Don't include me in that we. i laugh at people that can condemn killing dogs and then somehow rationalize killing pretty much every other animal on the planet with impunity.

The legality behind is based on sentiment and nothing promoting rational thought.

On a certain level that is true, that the law is based on sentiment. However hunting an animal in its own environment is different from killing one in a cold blooded manner that you already have complete dominanace over by keeping it caged or leashed so it cant fight back against you. That is where the sentiment part comes in.

Also, the fact that it is illegal is what makes it profitable. Thus to engage in such a behavior imples that you are deliberately breaking the law to make money.

 

[speedkilz88]

Well, I read what your new coach wrote and said WHAT!!

I simply do not understand it. Never will understand it.

Have we sunk so low that we think the killing dogs in very inhumane circumstances is just OK???

Have we hit that level??? What next???

I pray and hope that we are civilized people. I hope we educate our children to respect our land, our country, our traditions. And that we educate our young.

Is it just me that thinks that killing for fun is wrong??? Not just killing, making it hurt, in the most inhumane method possible. And enjoying it.

Have we really sunk to such levels.

God help us.

BB may be a sour face guy. But he is no lover of hate. Your guy.

What's really sad is that reading comprehension and intelligence in this country is at an all time low. Phillips didn't say anything about animal cruelty you idiot. He just tried to support a guy that played for him, and that he wants to wait and see what the outcome is.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Like most everything else, moral relativism and cultural perogatives dictate our actions and beliefs.

If you have been able to define the sanctity of all animal life absolutely, I applaud you.

And even more so if you have been able to live by it.

For me, the primacy of humans triumphs all, so while I don't eat my pet guinea pigs, I can't condemn South Americans who still use them as a major protein source (much as we do chickens). And altho I detest the inhumane testing and housing of lab animals, I have no problem with properly conducted experimentation and drug testing on animals to ultimately eliminate human suffering.

I go completely in the other direction and i have no issue living up to it. Im just fine with not being a hypocrite and condemning others along the way.

 

[5Stars]

Im just fine with not being a hypocrite and condemning others along the way.

Did you just type that?


Uhhh....whatever you say!


:laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[Pats Fan]

I guess asking you to actually read and/or comprehend would be too much.

Read and comprehend WHAT???

This should be a non discussion issue.

Vick is a complete and total low life. Is there anything else to discuss??

I just feel sorry for the dogs that had to suffer at his hands. And if you don't feel that, well, I can't help you. Why don't you go out and kill a few kittens, just for fun.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

On a certain level that is true, that the law is based on sentiment. However hunting an animal in its own environment is different from killing one in a cold blooded manner that you already have complete dominanace over by keeping it caged or leashed so it cant fight back against you. That is where the sentiment part comes in.

Also, the fact that it is illegal is what makes it profitable. Thus to engage in such a behavior imples that you are deliberately breaking the law to make money.

that is only one example. animal testing for cosmetics, rodeos, the fur trade, veal, fishing and a whole slew of other things are common behavior.

the is completely based on sentiment. If you dont afford animals rights then there is no rational basis for this.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Did you just type that?


Uhhh....whatever you say!


:laugh2: :laugh2:

i find hypocrites who condemn others despicable.

 

[aikemirv]

But the thing is that you can't separate out choice.

If humans choose to engage in brutal combat then let them have at it, but dogs don't have a choice.

What you choose to do to yourself is fine - what you choose to do to other creatures is another thing.

The "entertainment value" of it is not which one has a choice but the brutality IMO. If people did not like watching brutality there would be no dog fighting or ultimate fighting.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The "entertainment value" of it is not which one has a choice but the brutality IMO. If people did not like watching brutality there would be no dog fighting or ultimate fighting.

man is an aggressive, violent and territorial species.

 

[Vintage]

Read and comprehend WHAT???

This should be a non discussion issue.

Vick is a complete and total low life. Is there anything else to discuss??

I just feel sorry for the dogs that had to suffer at his hands. And if you don't feel that, well, I can't help you. Why don't you go out and kill a few kittens, just for fun.

Again, your failure to grasp anything is nothing short of amazing.

Nowhere did Wade condone anything Vick is alleged to have done.

You failed to comprehend that. What Wade said, was that he doesn't have all the facts. You failed to comprehend that. Your sentence about telling me to go kill some kittens proves you cannot discuss any topic without generalizing as well as showing a complete lack of basic intelligence in discussing matters or even comprehending matters. All in one sentence! Congrats! You couldn't make a point, so you went to the extremes to draw up emotions to try and make a point that really was not there.

Here is what Wade said

I don’t know all the answers. I don’t know what’s happenend…I don’t know…maybe the people that were around him…those kind of things. I still gonna be on his side until something happens

He says he doesn't have the answers. He says maybe the people around him.....(implying they were probably bad influences on him, which I think, we can agree. They weren't good influences, to say the least). He is NOT obstaining Vick for guilt with that statement either.

And the last statement. Seems to me he is saying he isn't going to condemn Vick until its proven.

Innocent until proven guilty.

_______________

None of which condone what Vick has alleged to have done. But again, your failure to either read and/or comprehend lead you to come up with some half-distorted rambling of a mess that you felt the need to share with us.

Yay for us.

 

[Hostile]

Read and comprehend WHAT???

This should be a non discussion issue.

Vick is a complete and total low life. Is there anything else to discuss??

I just feel sorry for the dogs that had to suffer at his hands. And if you don't feel that, well, I can't help you. Why don't you go out and kill a few kittens, just for fun.

In the minds of others, yes there is.

Where did Wade Phillips say anything to lead you to believe he doesn't care about the dogs that suffered?

Try not to fly off the handle as you answer this really simple question.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Oh so somebody has to do something for you in order to merit protection. How noble of you. If you want to go utilitarian on this there is after all another side to that story.

All I know is that I am NOT gonna take a deer for a walk around my neighborhood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And If I fall in a well, it will be sparky the dog, not Bambi the deer who will rescue me!!

Harumph!!!