Twitter: NFL announces new domestic violence policy

[5Stars]

Men and women are equal in all aspects. Just as a man would defend himself from being assaulted by another man, a man should likewise defend himself from a woman attacking him. Domestic abuse is not self-defense, however.

It is wrong for a woman to strike a man in anger.

It is wrong for a man to strike a woman in anger.

Man or woman, if you possess an uncontrollable urge to strike your wife, husband, brother, sister, girlfriend, boyfriend, mother, father, etc.--you have anger management issues. You need help. The domestic abuse victim is not the party requiring corrective action. You are. Blah blah she started it. Nope. You are the problem.

lol In 1973, I came home from a really busy, hot day at work and was tired as hell. This was with my first wife who is Spanish, beautiful and I loved her tons. All I wanted to do was lay down on the couch and have a nap.

Well, she insisted that I come to the table and eat what dinner she made for me. I told her that I would eat later, not now...she was pissed telling me to come eat or she will never make food for me again. So, stupid me, I got off the couch, went to the dining room, got the plate of food and dumped it in the trash and told her "Thanks for making this for me"...then I went and layed down on the couch and fell asleep almost right away.

I woke up with a sharp pain in my breastbone where, while I was dozing off, she stabbed me with a pair of scissors right on my breastbone. It only made a small puncture, but it started bleeding like hell and I was wearing a white T-shirt.

I got up and told her, what the hell is wrong with you? So, I got up and went out the front door not knowing where I was going, but I was not staying there! As I was crossing the lawn, she hollered at me, "You better take you ******* dog or I will cut his throat!" (I had a 8 month old St. Bernard puppy). So, I went to the back yard, leashed my dog and off we went walking down the street.

Well, after about 8 or 9 minutes, here she comes in the car after me telling me, "I'm sorry...I'm sorry, please, get in the car and come home...please." I told her to leave me alone and I would call her later after she calms down. I eventually walked to a friends house where I stayed the night. I talked to her the next day and went home.

The following day was Saturday and we both were alright with each other. I asked her if she wanted to go shopping and if she did I would give her money and would she please pick me up some underwear? She said she would.

Once she left the house and turned the corner, I grabbed a black trash bag, stuffed it with as many shorts, socks, t-shirts and what ever else I could get into the bag, grabbed my guitar and case, strapped it all to the back of my Harley with bungey cords and that was the last time I ever saw her in person again. We got divorced in the next month or so.

We were married for 4 years, happy years I thought? So, I was wrong to throw her fine cuisine in the trash, but she overreacted by stabbing me in the chest. I could have gotten up and beat the Holy crap out of her, but, two wrongs don't make a right.

Sorry for the long post, but it is a true story.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

It was a joke that Ray Rice got 2 games for knocking out his wife, meanwhile pot heads are getting 6 games - 1 year of a ban. At least Goodell is righting his wrong on this, though I think 6 games on the first offense is still too lenient.

It's funny but this flawed comparison is what caused the NFL to bend like a spineless jellyfish. All you heard, and would continue to hear for every punishment until the end of time, was that player X got Y games for Z but Ray Rice got 2 games for hitting his wife. Even though usually Z very much concerns the NFL while domestic violence should be handled by the legal system.

I understand the NFL being concerned about its image and it makes sense for them to punish players who hurt the league in this way. But their initial approach was the correct one: the legal system and the woman who actually was involved and went on to marry him didn't judge Rice too harshly and so neither did they. But now they folded like a tent to the angry twitter mob and this is just the beginning.

 

[Vintage]

A lifetime ban for a second offense seems asinine.

On the other hand, how hard is it abstain from beat your wife, girlfriend, etc?

 

[DallasEast]

lol In 1973, I came home from a really busy, hot day at work and was tired as hell. This was with my first wife who is Spanish, beautiful and I loved her tons. All I wanted to do was lay down on the couch and have a nap.

Well, she insisted that I come to the table and eat what dinner she made for me. I told her that I would eat later, not now...she was pissed telling me to come eat or she will never make food for me again. So, stupid me, I got off the couch, went to the dining room, got the plate of food and dumped it in the trash and told her "Thanks for making this for me"...then I went and layed down on the couch and fell asleep almost right away.

I woke up with a sharp pain in my breastbone where, while I was dozing off, she stabbed me with a pair of scissors right on my breastbone. It only made a small puncture, but it started bleeding like hell and I was wearing a white T-shirt.

I got up and told her, what the hell is wrong with you? So, I got up and went out the front door not knowing where I was going, but I was not staying there! As I was crossing the lawn, she hollered at me, "You better take you ****ing dog or I will cut his throat!" (I had a 8 month old St. Bernard puppy). So, I went to the back yard, leashed my dog and off we went walking down the street.

Well, after about 8 or 9 minutes, here she comes in the car after me telling me, "I'm sorry...I'm sorry, please, get in the car and come home...please." I told her to leave me alone and I would call her later after she calms down. I eventually walked to a friends house where I stayed the night. I talked to her the next day and went home.

The following day was Saturday and we both were alright with each other. I asked her if she wanted to go shopping and if she did I would give her money and would she please pick me up some underwear? She said she would.

Once she left the house and turned the corner, I grabbed a black trash bag, stuffed it with as many shorts, socks, t-shirts and what ever else I could get into the bag, grabbed my guitar and case, strapped it all to the back of my Harley with bungey cords and that was the last time I ever saw her in person again. We got divorced in the next month or so.

We were married for 4 years, happy years I thought? So, I was wrong to throw her fine cuisine in the trash, but she overreacted by stabbing me in the chest. I could have gotten up and beat the Holy crap out of her, but, two wrongs don't make a right.

Sorry for the long post, but it is a true story.

It's easy for any human being to react violently in any given situation. Remaining in control of yourself when **** is happening is hard. Two thumbs up.

 

[5Stars]

A lifetime ban for a second offense seems asinine.

On the other hand, how hard is it abstain from beat your wife, girlfriend, etc?

You simply have to be the bigger person and get the hell out of the confrontation before you become the one that goes to jail.

 

[JD_KaPow]

I'm a little confused by the argument I'm seeing: "It's possible for people to be falsely accused of a crime, and therefore we shouldn't hold people accountable for that crime."

 

[Risen Star]

It's funny but this flawed comparison is what caused the NFL to bend like a spineless jellyfish. All you heard, and would continue to hear for every punishment until the end of time, was that player X got Y games for Z but Ray Rice got 2 games for hitting his wife. Even though usually Z very much concerns the NFL while domestic violence should be handled by the legal system.

I understand the NFL being concerned about its image and it makes sense for them to punish players who hurt the league in this way. But their initial approach was the correct one: the legal system and the woman who actually was involved and went on to marry him didn't judge Rice too harshly and so neither did they. But now they folded like a tent to the angry twitter mob and this is just the beginning.

Exactly right and it's sickening.

 

[5Stars]

It's easy for any human being to react violently in any given situation. Remaining in control of yourself when **** is happening is hard. Two thumbs up.

lol thanks for the thumbs!

Well, if the crazy ***** would have let me nap for at least 45 minutes or so, I would have taken her out to a fine restaurant to eat! But, I just know that if I would have got off the couch and beat the **** out of her, would she post my bail?

 

[dstovall5]

I understand the NFL being concerned about its image and it makes sense for them to punish players who hurt the league in this way. But their initial approach was the correct one: the legal system and the woman who actually was involved and went on to marry him didn't judge Rice too harshly and so neither did they. But now they folded like a tent to the angry twitter mob and this is just the beginning.

In my opinion it shouldn't matter if the wife thinks it's ok for Rice (or anyone) to beat her, because it's not. And anyone who can't restrain themselves from physically assaulting another person should be punished severely. Think the lifetime ban is too severe? Well don't beat your wife. Though I do think with a penalty so steep, they shouldn't be able to punish the player unless it's a clear cut case, not he said she said. Ray Rice was a clear cut case, they have video of him dragging his wife unconsciously into the elevator, therefor the 2 games is very lenient. I could be completely missing the boat on this but that's what I truly believe. Also, our legal system is pretty flawed in itself so any other system that relies on it for it's punishment will also be flawed, my .02.

 

[Craig]

My fiancee hasn't shown any signs of ever doing anything violent, but i've aways been terrified of something like that happening. My thought is always that if a girl started getting violent towards me, i'd just go directly to the police station and spend the night there so i'd have an alibi for when she inevitably hurt herself to try to get at me. Then a restraining order would probably be in order. But I definitely don't think my fear of them hurting themselves as a way to get to me is paranoid once it gets to the point of violence because of the way the legal system works. Thats the only reason I could think that there should be any leniency with this issue. I think what they just put in place is fine though.

 

[Risen Star]

In my opinion it shouldn't matter if the wife thinks it's ok for Rice (or anyone) to beat her, because it's not. And anyone who can't restrain themselves from physically assaulting another person should be punished severely. Think the lifetime ban is too severe? Well don't beat your wife. Though I do think with a penalty so steep, they shouldn't be able to punish the player unless it's a clear cut case, not he said she said. Ray Rice was a clear cut case, they have video of him dragging his wife unconsciously into the elevator, therefor the 2 games is very lenient. I could be completely missing the boat on this but that's what I truly believe. Also, our legal system is pretty flawed in itself so any other system that relies on it for it's punishment will also be flawed, my .02.

How is video tape of Rice dragging her while she's out a clear cut case of domestic violence?

 

[DallasEast]

Exaggeration?
Most definitely, but this is the danger of trying to codify
every little possible infraction that a player could committ.

Stop the overreaction.​

 

[TwoCentPlain]

1) So, are Rothlisberger and Rice facing a lifetime ban the next time they screw up? Or, does the clock start ticking now?

2) And what exactly does 'hit' mean? Say, for example, she tries to slap him or hit him and he grabs her arm to stop her and leaves a mark. Good luck with that self defense excuse.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Sorry to be that guy but, I guess nobody ever dated a stripper before right? Im just saying, women can be crazy and yeah crazy. Ill leave it at that. Im not for hitting women ok.

Yep I have and here's what I've learned about strippers (back in the day). They are a lot of fun for a month or two, then one day you get the knock on the door and it's the ex-Marine, -ex boyfriend and it goes downhill fast.

Lesson learned -- If you're gonna play with dogs you're gonna get fleas.

 

[Risen Star]

1) So, are Rothlisberger and Rice facing a lifetime ban the next time they screw up? Or, does the clock start ticking now?

2) And what exactly does 'hit' mean? Say, for example, she tries to slap him or hit him and he grabs her arm to stop her and leaves a mark. Good luck with that self defense excuse.

I don't know. That's a good question.

I guess if I was Big Ben or Rice I'd be better off mowing her down with the car after a few beers.

 

[DallasEast]

2) And what exactly does 'hit' mean? Say, for example, she tries to slap him or hit him and he grabs her arm to stop her and leaves a mark. Good luck with that self defense excuse.

I believe intent will weigh just as heavily as any actual physical evidence.

 

[dstovall5]

How is video tape of Rice dragging her while she's out a clear cut case of domestic violence?

The video alone is not clear cut, but the evidence as whole CLEARLY show that this was a domestic violence case.

It happened in a night club and you had surrounding witnesses see Ray Rice strike his wife, you even had a witness on twitter tweet @RayRice27 why you knocking your girl out in Club??? before the arrest even occurred. Another witness claimed Rice hit his wife “like he punched a guy, knocked down and dragged her out of the elevator by his feet” before security arrived. The witness said it was more then a “minor incident.” I don't know what more evidence you would want, but it was obvious Rice assaulted his wife, she didn't just trip heading to the elevator on the way out.

 

[Risen Star]

Half the people that support this atrocity will feel differently when some crazy B has one of their team's star players kicked out of the league for life on some fabricated nonsense.

It's not a question of if but when.

 

[Risen Star]

The video alone is not clear cut, but the evidence as whole CLEARLY show that this was a domestic violence case.

It happened in a night club and you had surrounding witnesses see Ray Rice strike his wife, you even had a witness on twitter tweet @RayRice27 why you knocking your girl out in Club??? before the arrest even occurred. Another witness claimed Rice hit his wife “like he punched a guy, knocked down and dragged her out of the elevator by his feet” before security arrived. The witness said it was more then a “minor incident.” I don't know what more evidence you would want, but it was obvious Rice assaulted his wife, she didn't just trip heading to the elevator on the way out.

Okay. Then I misunderstood. I thought you said the video alone was clear cut proof.

If you're going to kick a player out of the league for life you damn sure better know without a doubt he's a legit two-time offender.

My stance would be unpopular. Which probably makes it right these days. Do nothing. Let the courts handle it.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

We need less people like you. Just FYI if your wife was theoretically cheating on you killing that person, figuratively or not won't reverse your wife's infidelity. Plus if you were "standing up" for her, it would only make you look foolish because you would choose to be with someone who obviously doesn't care about you and would openly do something to hurt you. Domestic violence is never the answer and no one is ever worth jeopardizing your well being.

P.s. Hope the mods don't nuke my post for being against domestic violence.

So let me ask all of you married guys on here. If you catch your wife cheating on you what is the first thing that would come to your mind? I know what mine would be. And that's somebody is about to die. I mean I'm not saying you ever hit a woman but if my wife cheated on me I would freakin snap somebody in half.

Roger Goodell is a clown with this decision .

So I guess I would get a lifetime ban from the nfl or a suspension or something if I played in the Nfl and something like that happened to me.