NFL conditionally reinstates Vick

[superonyx]

What about a Ron Mexico jersey?

Kidding aside, the man did his time. Stallworth killed a man for goodness sake. Other players in the NFL have done far worse than Vick, and people still don't get the fact that Vick was in jail for two years.

He did his time, and his crime is far less serious than some of his fellow peers. I'm not justifying animal cruelty, but he is getting it harder than players who killed other human beings...

And by the way, I have a dog.

Don't point to people that have killed other people and say they are still in the NFL. Please enlighten us on who all these convicted murderers are that are playing in the nfl. And since you made the statement. Please tell us what crimes are far more serious that players currently in the league have been convicted of. And Dante Stallworth is no longer in the league. He has been suspended. So come up with another one.

Speaking of Stallworth his crimes were not worse that Vick's. Stallworth's end result may have been worse but his intent was not. He made a mistake and accidentally killed a man. Vick did not have a moment of drunken stupidity and accidentally kill multiple dogs. He planned it. It wasnt a one time thing. It was a mistake he made or an impulse move. Look at a persons intent. Stallworths intent was to get home after drinking too much. Vick's intent was to brutally murder the animals that were showing loyalty to their master.

 

[Hostile]

Don't point to people that have killed other people and say they are still in the NFL. Please enlighten us on who all these convicted murderers are that are playing in the nfl. And since you made the statement. Please tell us what crimes are far more serious that players currently in the league have been convicted of. And Dante Stallworth is no longer in the league. He has been suspended. So come up with another one.

Speaking of Stallworth his crimes were not worse that Vick's. Stallworth's end result may have been worse but his intent was not. He made a mistake and accidentally killed a man. Vick did not have a moment of drunken stupidity and accidentally kill multiple dogs. He planned it. It wasnt a one time thing. It was a mistake he made or an impulse move. Look at a persons intent. Stallworths intent was to get home after drinking too much. Vick's intent was to brutally murder the animals that were showing loyalty to their master.

Leonard Little.

 

[superonyx]

Leonard Little.

Little? Again you have to look at intent. He never intended to hurt anyone.
In California alone each year over 250k people get arrested for DUI. Imagine how many more have done it and didnt get caught. These people are both stupid and careless. However, they are not on a worse level than Vick.

The key here is intent. Imagine what kind of person it takes to beat their dog to death after it just got mauled in a fight that you put it in. And you repeat these evil actions again and again year after year. You buy a house that is used to breed these dogs so you can bet money on them. While you are making 50 million dollars playing football. How evil do you have to be to do this? How could you brutalize an animal that just fought to please you? It takes a sick person to even put an animal in that situation. But an even sicker person to take the injured animal that in limping over to you for comfort and beat it to death.

 

[Alumni2k11]

I think he'd be ok for a team who plans on running a lot of wild cat stuff. But other than that, not so much.

 

[Hostile]

Little? Again you have to look at intent. He never intended to hurt anyone.
In California alone each year over 250k people get arrested for DUI. Imagine how many more have done it and didnt get caught. These people are both stupid and careless. However, they are not on a worse level than Vick.

The key here is intent. Imagine what kind of person it takes to beat their dog to death after it just got mauled in a fight that you put it in. And you repeat these evil actions again and again year after year. You buy a house that is used to breed these dogs so you can bet money on them. While you are making 50 million dollars playing football. How evil do you have to be to do this? How could you brutalize an animal that just fought to please you? It takes a sick person to even put an animal in that situation. But an even sicker person to take the injured animal that in limping over to you for comfort and beat it to death.

I disagree with that. If you drink enough to get hammered and then get behind the wheel then you do intend to hurt someone. He has been guilty of the crime more than once. Only once did someone die and he never felt any remorse for it at all.

 

[Hostile]

I think he'd be ok for a team who plans on running a lot of wild cat stuff. But other than that, not so much.

Love the sig.

 

[jcollins28]

Little? Again you have to look at intent. He never intended to hurt anyone.
In California alone each year over 250k people get arrested for DUI. Imagine how many more have done it and didnt get caught. These people are both stupid and careless. However, they are not on a worse level than Vick.

The key here is intent. Imagine what kind of person it takes to beat their dog to death after it just got mauled in a fight that you put it in. And you repeat these evil actions again and again year after year. You buy a house that is used to breed these dogs so you can bet money on them. While you are making 50 million dollars playing football. How evil do you have to be to do this? How could you brutalize an animal that just fought to please you? It takes a sick person to even put an animal in that situation. But an even sicker person to take the injured animal that in limping over to you for comfort and beat it to death.

I don't have to look at intent. To me a human life is worth more then a animals life period. He did his time and he should get his second chance just like so many other people have been given.

 

[Jenky]

Skins expressing interest in Vick. IMO, he's better than Campbell, but still holds "sucks" status. Anyways, it'd be an upgrade for them if he can regain his NFL form.

 

[Alumni2k11]

Love the sig.

lol, thanks.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

NFL conditionally reinstates Vick

Posted by Mike Florio on July 27, 2009 3:31 PM ET
The NFL has announced that quarterback Mike Vick has been conditionally reinstated.

I will forever hate the team that hires this dog torturer and dog killer. Those heinous things are bad enough. But he did it for money.

The NFL does not need this type of thug when there are 100s out there just waiting to get the chance in the NFL.

For the team that hires him, they need to get ready for the dog biscuits tossed on the field, the protests by PETA, the condemnation by people of morals and not people who'd gather round a pit hoping for blood while they hold onto the cash money.
Do his skills warrant such condemnation heaped on a team? Nay! Vurulent and vile and villainous will be the vitriol agin that expedient team, I say.

I am curious to see who will step forward and shake Vick's blood-stained hands. I want to know or get a hint of the value system of whichever sucker signs him, tortuer and killer of dogs.

 

[Bleu Star]

NFL conditionally reinstates Vick

Posted by Mike Florio on July 27, 2009 3:31 PM ET
The NFL has announced that quarterback Mike Vick has been conditionally reinstated.

Good move NFL. BE swift and quell the media. PETA is going to do what they do... If Vick keeps it clean and embraces PETA all will be fine. Non-story.

 

[Hostile]

Skins expressing interest in Vick. IMO, he's better than Campbell, but still holds "sucks" status. Anyways, it'd be an upgrade for them if he can regain his NFL form.

They are? Haven't seen this anywhere.

 

[superonyx]

I disagree with that. If you drink enough to get hammered and then get behind the wheel then you do intend to hurt someone. He has been guilty of the crime more than once. Only once did someone die and he never felt any remorse for it at all.

Should little be punished for his crime? Of course. And if he was ran out of the league then i wouldnt have a problem with that either. It would be fine with me if the punishment for DUI was to lose your license forever.

I know many people. As we all do that have driven while having too much to drink. Ask them if they ever intended to hurt anyone. Have a serious talk with them about it. They did not intend to hurt anyone. They thought they were ok to drive. Everyone thinks they are ok to drive even when they are not.

I can not speak to the way Little felt about killing someone in a car crash.

But simply based on what he did he is not on a lower level than Vick. Think of all the several million DUI cases each year in America. You mean to tell me these people have committed a crime worse than the ones committed by Vick?

 

[Hostile]

Should little be punished for his crime? Of course. And if he was ran out of the league then i wouldnt have a problem with that either. It would be fine with me if the punishment for DUI was to lose your license forever.

I know many people. As we all do that have driven while having too much to drink. Ask them if they ever intended to hurt anyone. Have a serious talk with them about it. They did not intend to hurt anyone. They thought they were ok to drive. Everyone thinks they are ok to drive even when they are not.

I can not speak to the way Little felt about killing someone in a car crash.

But simply based on what he did he is not on a lower level than Vick. Think of all the several million DUI cases each year in America. You mean to tell me these people have committed a crime worse than the ones committed by Vick?

I have pulled too many bodies out of cars from accidents caused by drunk drivers to ever do this or see their point. I was a fireman for 7 years man.

Yes, if people die as a result of the DUI I do consider it worse than what Vick did and I hate what Vick did and am a dog lover.

 

[superonyx]

I don't have to look at intent. To me a human life is worth more then a animals life period. He did his time and he should get his second chance just like so many other people have been given.

If you want to pass judgment on a person based on their character or moral fiber then you do have to look at intent. Have you never made a bad decision? Are you perfect?

Intent is very important when judging a person. Picking up a gun and it accidentally goes off and someone dies isnt the same as picking up a gun and purposely shooting a person with it. Whats the difference?...... The intent....

Are you starting to get it now?:bang2:

 

[superonyx]

I have pulled too many bodies out of cars from accidents caused by drunk drivers to ever do this or see their point. I was a fireman for 7 years man.

Yes, if people die as a result of the DUI I do consider it worse than what Vick did and I hate what Vick did and am a dog lover.

So if a person gets a DUI yet they were lucky enough to not get into an accident then they deserve a 2nd chance because they were lucky? But if they were not lucky then they should rot in jail.

So shooting a gun into a crowd only makes the shooter a really bad person if they actually hit someone and they die?

So you judge how good or bad a person is based on factors such as luck? Not intent?

Just curious.

 

[Hostile]

So if a person gets a DUI yet they were lucky enough to not get into an accident then they deserve a 2nd chance because they were lucky? But if they were not lucky then they should rot in jail.

So shooting a gun into a crowd only makes the shooter a really bad person if they actually hit someone and they die?

So you judge how good or bad a person is based on factors such as luck? Not intent?

Just curious.

No.

No.

No.

I hope that answered the questions.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Nearly two years in the pen and losing 70 million dallars can make someone grow up real fast. I sure hope he has learned his lesson. I notice Joe Gibbs and Tony Dungee seem to think that may be the case, but both are smart enough to know only time will tell. He was a fool and did not handle his situation well going in...we'll see if he handles things better going forward.

BTW, are you in Virginia? My family (mostly in NC) is having a reunion in Fancy Gap, Va this weekned but I here it is suppossed to rain all week. crap.

Like I said, I don't think he had any idea of the enormity of the situation. He was always pretty responsible. He never had any major scandals or suspensions so I think he'll be able to get it together easily.

I unfortunately reached my credit limit and they made me graduate so I left for grad school. Apparently scattered showers all week though. Hope it doesn't ruin the reunion. You're lucky...I wanna go back.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

So if a person gets a DUI yet they were lucky enough to not get into an accident then they deserve a 2nd chance because they were lucky? But if they were not lucky then they should rot in jail.

So shooting a gun into a crowd only makes the shooter a really bad person if they actually hit someone and they die?

So you judge how good or bad a person is based on factors such as luck? Not intent?

Just curious.

I can't wrap my head-injury brains around that annapolis, but I am sure it is a good one. Stay classy.

 

[Jenky]

They are? Haven't seen this anywhere.

Profootballtalk.com has picked up "subtle indications" from Commanders sources that the team might pursue free agent Michael Vick.
Owner Dan Snyder loves splash signings, and has made it clear that he isn't sold on current Skins starter Jason Campbell. Vick, however, has struggled in a West Coast offense like coach Jim Zorn's previously. He isn't an accurate passer, and the system requires precise timing on throws at every level.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
Related: Commanders

I live in VA and heard about it on the local news stations.