NFL conditionally reinstates Vick

[GimmeTheBall!]

No.

No.

No.

I hope that answered the questions.

Hos, I will fight him if you want me too.
He makes me so mad!!!

 

[SharutoX]

Can't wait to see vick play in the NFL again.

 

[jackrussell]

 

[Sarge]

I have to be honest, I would hate that. I want them to suffer with Campbell.

True - but I would love nothing more than to see Ware bury that ****head into the ground.

 

[dbair1967]

Skins expressing interest in Vick. IMO, he's better than Campbell, but still holds "sucks" status. Anyways, it'd be an upgrade for them if he can regain his NFL form.

Please let it happen.

Campbell as a passer >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vick

 

[dbair1967]

Like I said, I don't think he had any idea of the enormity of the situation. He was always pretty responsible. He never had any major scandals or suspensions so I think he'll be able to get it together easily.

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Dude you are either a huge Vick homer or just blind.

This guy is a thug. Hangs out with thugs. Smokes pot like its candy. In fact they supposedly still cant get the stench of pot smell out of that mansion he lived in.

Then there's the Ron Mexico mess.

"Loser" is very accurate for him.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Herpes, dog fighting cartel debt, thug little bro - Vick has enough things to worry about at home before he can even start to look at a playbook.

 

[Doomsday101]

True - but I would love nothing more than to see Ware bury that ****head into the ground.

Then start barking at him, that's for spot! *****. :laugh2:

 

[Hostile]

Profootballtalk.com has picked up "subtle indications" from Commanders sources that the team might pursue free agent Michael Vick.
Owner Dan Snyder loves splash signings, and has made it clear that he isn't sold on current Skins starter Jason Campbell. Vick, however, has struggled in a West Coast offense like coach Jim Zorn's previously. He isn't an accurate passer, and the system requires precise timing on throws at every level.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
Related: Commanders

I live in VA and heard about it on the local news stations.

That is awesome. Thank you.

 

[Alumni2k11]

The rumor mill on SI.com is even talking about Vick to the skins.

 

[BigBlacKahuna]

He did his time, and his crime is far less serious than some of his fellow peers. I'm not justifying animal cruelty, but he is getting it harder than players who killed other human beings...

Agree

 

[aikemirv]

If you want to pass judgment on a person based on their character or moral fiber then you do have to look at intent. Have you never made a bad decision? Are you perfect?

Intent is very important when judging a person. Picking up a gun and it accidentally goes off and someone dies isnt the same as picking up a gun and purposely shooting a person with it. Whats the difference?...... The intent....

Are you starting to get it now?:bang2:

Intent versus valuing a human life.

A drunk driver does not value another human life. Intent or not. Mike Vick does not place value on a dogs life.

So, it just goes to where you personally put value on, not really the intent.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think many of us find the cruelty of what they did sickening. Placing bets to watch 2 dogs rip each other apart.

Does that make him better or worse than a player who got busted on a DWI or hurt and or killed another person no but the act is still an act of cruelty that does set it apart.

 

[links18]

If nobody signs Vick, maybe he can get a job as a spokesperson for Valtrex.

 

[links18]

Intent versus valuing a human life.

A drunk driver does not value another human life. Intent or not. Mike Vick does not place value on a dogs life.

So, it just goes to where you personally put value on, not really the intent.

Intent maters. It's the difference between 1st and 2nd degree murder and manslaughter.

 

[DFWJC]

The one thing I continue to notice is that there are some people on this board that do not believe people can change or learn from past mistakes. In the next life (if you believe in such things) those folks will be front in center when it comes to punishment. Just sayin. lol

Seriously though, anyone in their right mind would not excuse Vick for his past. It's just time to look forward.

Having said that, he served an enormous (and unprecedented) penalty for his crimes against the dog world. PETA and others have come and said that this ruling --and the fact that the sentence was actually served--has helped them greatly with their cause. Making Vick an example worked, in other words.

In the end, I just feel that all people who pay for their crimes deserve a chance to prove that the punishment worked.

The leash, so to speak, will just need to be very very short.

 

[Doomsday101]

The one thing I continue to notice is that there are some people on this board that do not believe people can change or learn from past mistakes. In the next life (if you believe in such things) those folks will be front in center when it comes to punishment. Just sayin. lol

Seriously though, anyone in their right mind would not excuse Vick for his past. It's just time to look forward.

Having said that, he served an enormous (and unprecedented) penalty for his crimes against the dog world. PETA and others have come and said that this ruling --and the fact that the sentence was actually served--has helped them greatly with their cause. Making Vick an example worked, in other words.

In the end, I just feel that all people who pay for their crimes deserve a chance to prove that the punishment worked.

The leash, so to speak, will just need to be very very short.

I agree he did jail time and is a free man. I don't necessarily think that means the NFL owes that player anything. I'm of the mindset it is a privilege not a right to play in the NFL.

Commission made the call and I have no issue with that but like many other fans I don't want Vick on my team.

I see a lot defending Vick right to come back but I'm not seeing many hollering and we should get him.

 

[DFWJC]

I agree he did jail time and is a free man. I don't necessarily think that means the NFL owes that player anything. I'm of the mindset it is a privilege not a right to play in the NFL.

Commission made the call and I have no issue with that but like many other fans I don't want Vick on my team.

I see a lot defending Vick right to come back but I'm not seeing many hollering and we should get him.

I agree with all of your points.

 

[jackrussell]

The one thing I continue to notice is that there are some people on this board that do not believe people can change or learn from past mistakes. In the next life (if you believe in such things) those folks will be front in center when it comes to punishment. Just sayin. lol

Seriously though, anyone in their right mind would not excuse Vick for his past. It's just time to look forward.

Having said that, he served an enormous (and unprecedented) penalty for his crimes against the dog world. PETA and others have come and said that this ruling --and the fact that the sentence was actually served--has helped them greatly with their cause. Making Vick an example worked, in other words.

In the end, I just feel that all people who pay for their crimes deserve a chance to prove that the punishment worked.

The leash, so to speak, will just need to be very very short.

Some of this goes back to this 'mistake' thing. I doubt very much if the guy didn't know any of this was wrong, from the fighting to the drugs, the gambling to the more than likely illegal weapons...and perhaps one of the worst things..he perpetuated the environment that some claim was at fault to begin with. These weren't mistakes, they were choices, bad choices.

I was taught early that life was full of choices, and one must live with the ones we make.

And it's not about 2nd chances. First off, he was given an incredible, once in a lifetime opportunity...one that the majority will never realize. That opportunity does not guarentee 2nd chances. I would waste more time worrying about deserving people that didn't get a first chance.

He's being reinstated. He will eventually have the opportunity to play again. He is fortunate that he is getting a 2nd chance in the same field he was in before. So alot of people have to quit rallying that the guy is 'deserving'(entitled) to a 2nd chance...he's getting it. Not on THEIR timetable perhaps, but he's getting it.

I'm wondering if I would get a 2nd chance in the education field if I would be found guilty of sexual misconduct with a student. You know, I'd do my time, get released from jail...does that entitle me to get a 2nd chance in the school systems? I don't think so, I'm certain I would NEVER get an opportunity to prove that the punishment worked. I'm sure my 2nd chance would have to be in a different field.

It's your baby, you rock it
It's your heartache, you bought it
You made that bed you're sleeping in
And I'm tired of hearing about it friend
It's your baby, you rock it

 

[Doomsday101]

Some of this goes back to this 'mistake' thing. I doubt very much if the guy didn't know any of this was wrong, from the fighting to the drugs, the gambling to the more than likely illegal weapons...and perhaps one of the worst things..he perpetuated the environment that some claim was at fault to begin with. These weren't mistakes, they were choices, bad choices.

I was taught early that life was full of choices, and one must live with the ones we make.

And it's not about 2nd chances. First off, he was given an incredible, once in a lifetime opportunity...one that the majority will never realize. That opportunity does not guarentee 2nd chances. I would waste more time worrying about deserving people that didn't get a first chance.

He's being reinstated. He will eventually have the opportunity to play again. He is fortunate that he is getting a 2nd chance in the same field he was in before. So alot of people have to quit rallying that the guy is 'deserving'(entitled) to a 2nd chance...he's getting it. Not on THEIR timetable perhaps, but he's getting it.

I'm wondering if I would get a 2nd chance in the education field if I would be found guilty of sexual misconduct with a student. You know, I'd do my time, get released from jail...does that entitle me to get a 2nd chance in the school systems? I don't think so, I'm certain I would NEVER get an opportunity to prove that the punishment worked. I'm sure my 2nd chance would have to be in a different field.

It's your baby, you rock it
It's your heartache, you bought it
You made that bed you're sleeping in
And I'm tired of hearing about it friend
It's your baby, you rock it

I agree I think the 2nd chance is your freedom not your former occupation. That is a moot point now because he has been allowed back in only question remaining is out of the 32 owners in the league which one is willing to sign him