NFL Live: Cowboys Have High Interest In Simms...

[Thick 'N Hearty]

If he is a liability in coverage you are less likely to blitz.

Honestly that wasn't hard.

Thanks for the assist Hos. I thought I was going to have to draw a picture.

 

[AbeBeta]

sure he did...he was great at it his first few seasons...he had a number of huge hits on QB's then...he had 6 1/2 sacks in those first 4yrs, and the bigger issue was we couldnt blitz him more

he's had none the last two seasons, and it doesnt seem as if he gets there or "comes clean" like he used to

David

great is an overstatement -- he had a handful of decent blitzes -- but three of his 6 years in the league he had zero sacks. He doesn't blitz anymore because he sucks at it

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

great is an overstatement -- he had a handful of decent blitzes -- but three of his 6 years in the league he had zero sacks. He doesn't blitz anymore because he sucks at it

Uh oh, abersonc woke up in one of those crazy moods again.

 

[CATCH17]

OK, it was Simms. This is one of the best defensive plays I've seen in NCAA history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyOJZqPBByY

Everyone talks about that play and rightfully so but he made a play against Nebraska that same year that was my favorite play of his college career.

The difference though is the Superman play won them the Football/Rivalry game.

The play he made against Nebraska was on a toss play I believe and he went right through Nebraskas fullback (who was the best in the Nation at the time) and just took out Nebraskas RB.

That play didnt get as much appreciation as it should but it takes a rediculous amount of talent to make that play.

Especially against that Nebraska team.

 

[dbair1967]

great is an overstatement -- he had a handful of decent blitzes -- but three of his 6 years in the league he had zero sacks. He doesn't blitz anymore because he sucks at it

No, he hasnt blitzed as much because he's had to help out alot in coverage the past few seasons, and when Parcells/Zimmer were coaching they had him protecting the deep areas of the field...they even said so themselves on several occasions

David

 

[Hostile]

Thanks for the assist Hos. I thought I was going to have to draw a picture.

Works exactly the same if you have liabilities at Corner. You are less likely to blitz. If you have Corners who can cover tight, you are more likely to blitz.

Thought that was really obvious.

 

[Danny White]

Everyone talks about that play and rightfully so but he made a play against Nebraska that same year that was my favorite play of his college career.

The difference though is the Superman play won them the Football/Rivalry game.

The play he made against Nebraska was on a toss play I believe and he went right through Nebraskas fullback (who was the best in the Nation at the time) and just took out Nebraskas RB.

That play didnt get as much appreciation as it should but it takes a rediculous amount of talent to make that play.

Especially against that Nebraska team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1r-QfQanNs

40 second mark, I believe.

 

[Cowboys2008]

I'm still kinda amazed he is Phil's son, because he shows no attributes that his dad showed on the field, both in college at Texas and in the pro's. Something just isnt right upstairs with him. He's always had throwing ability, but he lacks something else. I dont think the light bulb is ever going on for him either.

David

My guess is that he lacks Bill's total guidance like his father had. Lets be real, Phil wasn't exactly the brightest bulb in the Great Savings pack either, but he was articulate and that was due to Parcell's teaching him the right things to say.

I'm actually surprised Bill isn't showing interest here to be honest. Unless he just knows the limitations of the Simms-line and being stuck with that once was enough.

 

[Sandyf]

Simms will draw interest from several teams including Dallas and Miami. IMO, he would be an upgrade over Johnson and he probably would only be here for a year and then be potential trade bait with Bartel or a draft pick being the #2 in 2009.

Garrett would be a huge help to Simms so I would expect Dallas to offer him a backup contract if released. Problem is I don't believe Tampa wants to let him go unless they get something in return. As long as the Garcia contract problems drag out, they aren't going to release him.

 

[austintodallas]

Hey you gotta look at the silver lining the presence of Simms might remind Roy of what it's actually like to tackle a QB on a safety blitz.

LOL. You had to go there.

 

[AbeBeta]

No, he hasnt blitzed as much because he's had to help out alot in coverage the past few seasons, and when Parcells/Zimmer were coaching they had him protecting the deep areas of the field...they even said so themselves on several occasions

David

Lets see we moved from Parcells to Phillips. What did Roy do? He moved from 0 sacks in 2006 to 0 sacks in 2007.

So either a) He's a great blitzer and our coaches are idiots or b) he's not very good at it so our coaches don't use him to do it.

Seeing that we had plays that we'd run for Nate Freaking Jones to blitz, it is clear that Wade did have specific blitz packages for DBs. He just didn't use Roy. Why? Roy isn't good at blitzing.

 

[AbeBeta]

If he is a liability in coverage you are less likely to blitz.

Honestly that wasn't hard.

So Hamlin is a liability in coverage?

 

[Hostile]

So Hamlin is a liability in coverage?

Strike one.

Nice swing though.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Strike one.

Nice swing though.

That wasn't a swing, it was a complete whiff.

 

[AbeBeta]

Strike one.

Nice swing though.

To get this straight, you are saying the the coverage is bad with Hamlin out there. So that is why Roy didn't blitz last year?

As I noted otherwise, we did have blitz packages for guys like Nate Jones. So that does show a willingness to send a DB. Why not Roy?

 

[Hostile]

To get this straight, you are saying the the coverage is bad with Hamlin out there. So that is why Roy didn't blitz last year?

As I noted otherwise, we did have blitz packages for guys like Nate Jones. So that does show a willingness to send a DB. Why not Roy?

No, that isn't what I said. I will try and make football simpler for you. Please do your part.

The coverage was bad with Jacques Reeves out there and Newman and Henry both gimpy for stretches of time. As such we did not have very many corner or safety blitzes. I wish we could have sent Roy more than we did.

Prediction...with a better at run defense LB in front of him in Zach Thomas, and better CB coverage and depth we will see him blitz more in 2008 than he did in 2007.

Was this simple enough? I can't dumb it down much more.

 

[AbeBeta]

No, that isn't what I said. I will try and make football simpler for you. Please do your part.

The coverage was bad with Jacques Reeves out there and Newman and Henry both gimpy for stretches of time. As such we did not have very many corner or safety blitzes. I wish we could have sent Roy more than we did.

Prediction...with a better at run defense LB in front of him in Zach Thomas, and better CB coverage and depth we will see him blitz more in 2008 than he did in 2007.

Was this simple enough? I can't dumb it down much more.

So then explain how in 2005, when KD was starting at free safety and Henry missed 4 games (and parts of two others) that Roy had the best sack numbers of his career?

See how the "bad coverage" argument doesn't fit?

 

[Hostile]

So then explain how in 2005, when KD was starting at free safety and Henry missed 4 games (and parts of two others) that Roy had the best sack numbers of his career?

See how the "bad coverage" argument doesn't fit?

Is this really that hard for you to figure out or are you just itching to get into a pissing match?

I'll oblige either way, just tell me which it is because I'd prefer to adjust my thinking ahead of time. Answer that and I will answer yours.

 

[AbeBeta]

Is this really that hard for you to figure out or are you just itching to get into a pissing match?

I'll oblige either way, just tell me which it is because I'd prefer to adjust my thinking ahead of time. Answer that and I will answer yours.

I understand exactly what you are saying. Poor coverage = no blitzing.

But 2005 doesn't fit that pattern for Roy.

Reasonable people see evidence that contradicts what they believe and reevaluate their conclusions.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

He would be a very nice backup, I like the kid... I think Gruden would be foolish to let him go.