Sammy Baugh
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Wood;2846575 said:Mr Non-December
sure or maybe even Mr. Down December
That's better than mine!
Wood;2846575 said:Mr Non-December
sure or maybe even Mr. Down December
what's Campbell's nickname?Sammy Baugh;2846600 said:That's better than mine!
Jay CutlerRampage;2846603 said:what's Campbell's nickname?
Sammy Baugh;2846568 said:Ok, although I disagree with ldgit's line of thought, I'll go with it.
Romo was not selected to the Pro Bowl last year. Therefore, if the Pro Bowl is a perception of one's capabilities, the greater USA does not consider Romo in the top 3 in the NFC, much less the top 5 in the NFL.
So, back to my point: Romo is not considered a top 5 qb in the NFL in the broad perspective.
Wood;2846581 said:Your making excuses for the guy. His ill timed poor play are not exclusive to last year...this goes back to Seattle playoff games and continues thru last year. Romo has a monkey on his back....and every football observer knows it. Its up to him to remove it. I think alot of you are in for a shock this year when Kitna leads this team (similar to what happend in Philadelphia with Garcia coming off bench to lead eagles into playoffs to deligh of eagle fans who observed a true leader and not primadonna that McNabb had become)...the similarities are in place.
Sammy Baugh;2846591 said:I said that I disagreed with that line of thought, didn't I?
Dodger12;2846608 said:Then why don't you tell us what your criteria are. You made the broad statement, why not back it up. You mentioned that a QB must be judged on "merit" in an earlier posting. What exactly is that? What has Aaron Rodgers done to merit a top 5 listing by your standards?
Rampage;2846603 said:what's Campbell's nickname?
Idgit;2846606 said:Again, the criterion under debate isn't consideration in the broad perspective, it's consideration outside of Cowboyland. But then, you already know that, and you're trying to be reasonable, and, for a Commander fan, you're ok, so I'll let it go.
Wood, no offense, but you're hardly in a position to explain what every football observer knows about Tony Romo and back-monkeys.
There are a group of football observers who don't have a very good grasp of what's really the heart of the problem with the Dallas Cowboys and who don't look any farther than the QB position. And then there's a whole 'nother group that both observes *and* understands what happened last year and why. That second group is the group that will be in for a shock to see Kitna come off the bench for a healthy Romo to lead the team to the playoffs. This same group is also 'Surprised by Leprechauns' and 'Don't Expect to See Bigfoot Returning Kicks' in the preseason. 'Dave Campo in a Wetsuit Again' they might buy in a pinch. But 'Kitna, Starting Over Romo' is right-out.
Rampage;2846603 said:what's Campbell's nickname?
Sammy Baugh;2846568 said:Ok, although I disagree with ldgit's line of thought, I'll go with it.
Romo was not selected to the Pro Bowl last year. Therefore, if the Pro Bowl is a perception of one's capabilities, the greater USA does not consider Romo in the top 3 in the NFC, much less the top 5 in the NFL.
So, back to my point: Romo is not considered a top 5 qb in the NFL in the broad perspective.
dadymat;2846217 said:QBs are judged by 1 main element....wins and losses.......Romo is 27-12 in first 39 starts....come back and talk about Ryan after 39 games....you brag about all hes done his first year in the NFL and that is idiocy ( By your logic )...cause nothin matters but playoff wins right?....Ryan hasnt won any either and hasnt put up the stats Romo has NOT doing it.....
What a silly statement.RedRaiderCowboysFan;2846638 said:What was Aikman's record and qb rating after his first 39 games? And how did that work out for Troy? So if a qb's career is judged by their record and rating after just 39 games, with your logic then romo is a far more talented qb then Troy and that he should have been benched? I bet you were driving the Steve Walsh bandwagon weren't you, if you were even a "fan" before they started winning Super Bowls. Can you even begin to make an argument that romo is more talented to Troy with that kind of logic? No, because Aikman had it all, thats why he is a 3X Super Bowl champ and hall of famer.
So what does that tell you, that you can't judge how talented a qb is based on stats after 39 starts? Remember, Aikman was drafted #1 overall to the worst team in football and didnt get the luxury of stepping on the field years later with a loaded team around him did he? Too bad the NFL doesn't take into consideration how long a player has played based on the # of games but instead does it based on the # of years in the league. This will be his 7th year and so far hasn't accomplished anything compared to say the Qb class of 2004. So if his play is the same as past years, he won't even be mentioned in the same breath as overrated qbs like Jake Plummer and Kordell Stewart, and they even had success in the playoffs.
Sammy Baugh;2846615 said:By "broad perspective" I meant "outside of Cowboyland." Sorry I wasn't clearer but I thought my language would be understood.
SLATEmosphere;2845972 said:Actually ya it is.
DallasEast;2846647 said:What a silly statement.
Sammy Baugh;2846593 said:The Pro Bowl is widely regarded as a popularity contest, not a true measuring stick.
As for Green Bay, there are actually tons of intelligent Packers fans who realize that 6-10 may have had more to do with a rotten defense, not Rodgers.
RedRaiderCowboysFan;2846658 said:Ya I guess saying a qb in his 7th season who has a 0-2 record in the playoffs compared to 3 Super Bowl Wins, 4 championship games, and big time stats from each of those 3 first round qbs is such a silly statement. Silly me, why would I want any of those qbs on my team when I can have romo?
I bet that is what Jerry tells himself everyday, thats why under his watch this team fails every year and those teams win.
If you would rather have romo then any of those qbs taken in the first round of 2004, then you are pathetic.
RedRaiderCowboysFan;2846658 said:Ya I guess saying a qb in his 7th season who has a 0-2 record in the playoffs compared to 3 Super Bowl Wins, 4 championship games, and big time stats from each of those 3 first round qbs is such a silly statement. Silly me, why would I want any of those qbs on my team when I can have romo?
I bet that is what Jerry tells himself everyday, thats why under his watch this team fails every year and those teams win.
If you would rather have romo then any of those qbs taken in the first round of 2004, then you are pathetic.
Dodger12;2846660 said:Then those fans must have stayed home because the people at the stadium pinned it on Rodgers. They were begging for the return of a washed up QB.
But it's funny how excuses work one way and not the other. Romo gets pinned for the Cowboys woes but for GB, it's the defense and Rodgers is a top 5 QB on a 6 and 10 team. The reality is that Romo was 8 and 4 in his starts. I get that he hasn't won a playoff game but to even believe that NFL fans outside of Cowboy land would take Rodgers over Romo is the stuff of fiction.