NFL Team 4th Quarter Points/Game

[JBond]

Dak is not Elite QB. He’s not enough to carry this team without the supporting cast.

But he’s not this teams greatest weakness

He is a bigger stronger Alex Smith, another underrated QB.

 

[Risen Star]

We can agree that it pretty much confirms he is the GARBAGE KING of stats and points.......

Yep. Would have been a lot higher in 2020 if he played all season.

He's a Fraud with a capital F.

 

[acr731]

not all on defense....but you can't deny last year the defense was historically bad, that took the offense out of its game plan....every team has a turnover, every QB throws an interception..including Brady who threw a pick 6 in a game...yet they ended up winning because the defense held..

The bold is certainly true. My point, though, was the offense didn't exactly help matters at times in 2020. Go back and watch the first 5 games in 2020 and count the number of times the offense left the defense in poor positions.

Dak has a tendency to have slow starts, and sometimes, not all the time, this leads to deficits that have to be overcome. Sometimes the deficits are pretty significant. What happens is the offense then has to rely on the passing game to catch up and this is when Dak piles up his stats.

In 2019 Jameis Winston finished as the #1 overall QB. Care to know how that happened? Same as it is for Dak, who finished #2. Winston isn't an elite QB because he finished #1, and neither was Dak at #2.

 

[DandyDon52]

And that’s pretty much the norm . Most QB except for the Elite on the better teams don’t fare as well against the better teams.

Look at what we did in 2019. We averaged 35 points in our 8 wins and about 17 points in our 8 losses.

Not sure why some fans are expecting more from Dak and this Cowboys team?

Well dak and the team need to do better than that .
17 points in 8 of the games isnt going to cut it.
They need to cut that down to 3 or 4.
If they are lucky, which some teams are, then they could get by if their defense is good enough to keep the other teams
below 17 points avg in 4 of those 8.
But then they get to the playoffs, and do a 17 point game chances are they lose.

This makes me think of the NO and NE games where the defense did hold the other team to 14 or less, and dak
and team still lost the games.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Well dak and the team need to do better than that .
17 points in 8 of the games isnt going to cut it.
They need to cut that down to 3 or 4.
If they are lucky, which some teams are, then they could get by if their defense is good enough to keep the other teams
below 17 points avg in 4 of those 8.
But then they get to the playoffs, and do a 17 point game chances are they lose.

This makes me think of the NO and NE games where the defense did hold the other team to 14 or less, and dak
and team still lost the games.

 

[NotForLong]

he is 13-20 against teams with a winning record, including last year being 1-3. ....relatively speaking its above average in the NFL. the only ones with a better record against teams with a winning record are mahomes, brady, wilson.....that's it.

Blah blah blah . . . I watch the game with my eyes but thank you for the "recap" of History through numbers

Lets take out that magical year . . . yes I will and yes I can.

His record becomes 7 - 18 against teams with a winning record. . . . Yikes
(Just to be clear we are talking about the second highest paid player in the History of the NFL) . . Yikes

Lets dissect the Numbers of the Magical Year
13-3

Teams with "Winning Record"
6-2

Teams with Losing Record
5-1

Teams 8-8
2-0
Amazing Numbers . . . so Pretty

Lets look closer

Of those "Winning teams" 2 were 9-7,and 2 were 8-7-1 it was actually the same team The Commanders . . . hardly what you would call Winning teams. . . .more like a notch above mediocrity. Add in 2 teams at 8-8

That year the Browns won 1 game, the 49ers won 2 games and Chicago won 3 games

Of the 13 wins only 2 came against quality teams 10 or more wins Steelers and Packers. . . in fact against teams with 10 or more Wins Cowboys were 2-2

 

[Ranched]

How is it Moore gets a free pass, each & every time?! Have yet to see a Moore thread on any stat.

 

[NotForLong]

And that’s pretty much the norm . Most QB except for the Elite on the better teams don’t fare as well against the better teams.

Look at what we did in 2019. We averaged 35 points in our 8 wins and about 17 points in our 8 losses.

Not sure why some fans are expecting more from Dak and this Cowboys team?

Yes let look at what the Cowboys did in 2019

LOSSES.
Team Record / PTS.
L 13-3 10
L 13-3 24
L 12-4 9
L 10-6 24
L 10-6 15
L. 9-7 9
L 8-8 24
L. 7-9 22

WINS
W 3-13 31
W 3-13 47
W 3-12-1 35
W 4-12 37
W 4-12 35
W. 5-11 31
W. 9-7 37
W. 9-7 44

As you can see the Reason . . . its as clear as day.

Weak opponent + garbage time = 160 million

 

[NotForLong]

How is it Moore gets a free pass, each & every time?! Have yet to see a Moore thread on any stat.

Because having a rocket scientist (Mooore) work with a Paper airplane (Dak) will not get you to the moon (Championship)

 

[NotForLong]

He is a bigger stronger Alex Smith, another underrated QB.

And they both have the same scars to prove it

 

[Diehardblues]

Yes let look at what the Cowboys did in 2019

LOSSES.
Team Record / PTS.
L 13-3 10
L 13-3 24
L 12-4 9
L 10-6 24
L 10-6 15
L. 9-7 9
L 8-8 24
L. 7-9 22

WINS
W 3-13 31
W 3-13 47
W 3-12-1 35
W 4-12 37
W 4-12 35
W. 5-11 31
W. 9-7 37
W. 9-7 44

As you can see the Reason . . . its as clear as day.

Weak opponent + garbage time = 160 million

The good news is our QB and team is good enough to dominate lesser and average teams. Not sure why we expect this team to beat better teams and QB’s?

We shouldn’t equate elite or greatness with our QB’s contract. Often franchise QB’s are paid “ market price”.

A new or extended contract doesn’t necessarily represent a pecking order or ranking in the league.

 

[Diehardblues]

Well dak and the team need to do better than that .
17 points in 8 of the games isnt going to cut it.
They need to cut that down to 3 or 4.
If they are lucky, which some teams are, then they could get by if their defense is good enough to keep the other teams
below 17 points avg in 4 of those 8.
But then they get to the playoffs, and do a 17 point game chances are they lose.

This makes me think of the NO and NE games where the defense did hold the other team to 14 or less, and dak
and team still lost the games.

Yes, and in those games where our defense did do better we faced defenses who limited us as well.

It is what it is. I’m all for critiquing our team . It surely deserves it . But I’m still amazed by fans who believe we should be better than we are.

 

[TexasBoys2288]

This is why Dak is a stat padder.

He gets a lot of empty yards and points playing catch up at the ends of games.

A lot of which we could chalk up to our pathetic defense helping the opponents run up their score. We should get a better look at Dak's real stats this year, hope it is worth $40 million.

 

[Diehardblues]

The bold is certainly true. My point, though, was the offense didn't exactly help matters at times in 2020. Go back and watch the first 5 games in 2020 and count the number of times the offense left the defense in poor positions.

Dak has a tendency to have slow starts, and sometimes, not all the time, this leads to deficits that have to be overcome. Sometimes the deficits are pretty significant. What happens is the offense then has to rely on the passing game to catch up and this is when Dak piles up his stats.

In 2019 Jameis Winston finished as the #1 overall QB. Care to know how that happened? Same as it is for Dak, who finished #2. Winston isn't an elite QB because he finished #1, and neither was Dak at #2.

I definitely agree our offense and Dak often get off to slow starts. And I agree with the analysis on stats and rankings.

But the fact remains we have a QB who is able to bring us back in these games and keep us in contention. If he wasn’t able to then we’d be having a different discussion.

Our offense and QB serve this team more effectively when we run the ball and dominate TOP which also leaves our defense off the field. When we fall behind early we often abort our running game reliant on Daks arm to lead us back which isn’t our offenses more effective way.

Our offense was built to run the ball. When defenses stifle it early it doesn’t place us in the most favorable position.

 

[Diehardblues]

A lot of which we could chalk up to our pathetic defense helping the opponents run up their score. We should get a better look at Dak's real stats this year, hope it is worth $40 million.

Fortunately his cap just for the next two years is only about 20 million per. The 40+ million a year cap hit doesn’t kick in until 2023.

 

[Qcard]

Dallas Offense.....

2016= 10th

2017= 8th

2018=5th

2019=2nd

2020=15th



P.S. Can someone say "Empty Calories" galore????

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/4th-quarter-points-per-game?date=2021-02-08

@PAPPYDOG Throw back Classic Dak Hate .....Look at this gem from July 14 2018

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/dak-extinction.409029/

Yes this is the Age of Dak-Extinction......and how extensive and damaging it will be still remains a work in progress.

1. We lost a Franchise QB (Romo) - THIS IS WHY @PAPPYDOG HATES DAK.....Dak Benched Romo's Overrated Career

2.We lost a # 1 Wr in Dez ( Say what you will he demanded Double coverage) - Hello Amari Cooper

3' We lost a HOF TE who retired against his wishes knowing Dak just cant get the job done. - BUT WITTEN CAME BACK

4.We have lost our "Passing game" which is now a dink and dunk affair and the most predictable offense in the NFL. We are now a College offense they say its Dak-friendly..... - GOAL POST SHIFT ......ENDZONE IS NOW THE LATEST SHIFT

5.We signed Fleming T and drafted Williams G to accommodate Dak's weaknesses instead of shoring up the defense. - So this NOT Tony Romo's TEam anymore??

6.Zeke will be cooked withing 3 years with Dak at QB due to over usage....and GL finding another Zeke! - Zeke is having the BEST Off-season & Training Camp of his Career

7.Without a QB who defenses do not fear our offense showed last season what it ultimate destiny is a anemic affair of 3rd and outs or at best a FG.... - Dallas Made the Play-offs


8.With so many flaws at QB for Dak we run the risk of wasting more valuable years waiting for him to develop while every other player are getting older and losing a step or having there contract expire. - $40M per year 4yrs $160M

9.Dak no matter how many stats or excuses some post here will always be a bench player at best and by the time he's benched will have left our Cowboys in shambles......HATE HATE HATE


10.The Dallas Wall Myth..... 1 injury and the most feared and famous Dallas Wall came crashing down! Get real Boys fan as Zeke will be stopped and then our offense is at the mercy of Dak...OMG....

1989 is closer than most of you here think......

Closer to 1989@PAPPYDOG 3 years later HATE FAIL

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He is a bigger stronger Alex Smith, another underrated QB.

Maybe Dak in 2016...not Dak in 2021.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dak is not Elite QB. He’s not enough to carry this team without the supporting cast.

But he’s not this teams greatest weakness

So Tom Brady isn't elite? Just trying to follow you here.....

 

[khiladi]

Dak actually was ‘lucky’ he got injured, because it got him the over-valued contract. It was yet that Martin got injured and the OL went into even further collapse mode. And Dak actually plays his worst call mid-season until the last meaningless games. His 2019 season, after the offense started off hot with the four wins, like usual, it got figured out and the offense went in a tail-spin and led the league in stats, such as most quarters without throwing a TD pass and Dak starter throwing everybody under the bus for not practicing hard.

Dallas had to completely adjust the offense to a quick pass attack with Dalton, because of how awful the OL was playing. On what planet has Dak showed in ability to run a quick, pass attack offense? That’s actually Dalton’s bread and butter.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The bold is certainly true. My point, though, was the offense didn't exactly help matters at times in 2020. Go back and watch the first 5 games in 2020 and count the number of times the offense left the defense in poor positions.

Dak has a tendency to have slow starts, and sometimes, not all the time, this leads to deficits that have to be overcome. Sometimes the deficits are pretty significant. What happens is the offense then has to rely on the passing game to catch up and this is when Dak piles up his stats.

In 2019 Jameis Winston finished as the #1 overall QB. Care to know how that happened? Same as it is for Dak, who finished #2. Winston isn't an elite QB because he finished #1, and neither was Dak at #2.

I call this a mild spin.

I actually did the excercise and the cleveland and atlanta games come to mind on turnovers. but not rams, not seattle and not the giants. and I find it interesting you mention Dak but not zeke or schultz for their fumbles in the games in the first half....I also did the same excercise for scoring in the first half and it was average to above average, but defense couldn't/didn't make any stops....so the tendency is to say we had slow starts. scoring 14 in the first half is not a slow start. giving up 31 is. being up 14-7 at the end of first quarter is not a slow start. so we can't say it was a slow start because the offense didn't score 31.....to keep up.....

and Jamies finished #1 in passing yards.....not the #1 QB.....

all you said is I acknowledge defense was historically bad, but I still want to blame Dak...nobody else on the offense bears responsibility...