NFLPA Files Temporary Restraining Order! **merged**

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ConceptCoop said:
No it hasn't. Not even close. Unless there is a smoking gun memo which explicitly states the league's intentions to screw Zeke (or something similar), there's no proof. Zeke has the burden of proof here, unfortunately. It's really hard to prove conspiracy.
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Conspiracy has been more proven than DV. There is far, far, more credible evidence of conspiracy than there is that there is a legitimate claim of DV.
 
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Oh absolutely. The NFLPA learned a lot of lessons during the Brady case. His case paved the way for how well this one has been handled. Not sure how many in here remember, but back in 2015, everyone assumed Brady would appeal his suspension in a court of law and he would probably do so in Minnesota. The NFL surprised everyone by filing first with their "Motion to Confirm" so they got to choose the setting which ultimately worked in their favor (Brady did indeed file in Minnesota, but since he filed second, it was thrown out of Minnesota and sent to NY). And that's why the same legal team didn't even bother waiting for the (sham) arbitrator's ruling this time around.

Then next time this happens, the NFL will probably be sure to file extra early in CA2 so the player doesn't get to choose the venue.
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Brady still had 2 of the 4 judges side with him and he looked pretty guilty

The NFL and the Wells report didn't come off as competent or fair.....if Brady kept fighting I think he had a good chance of winning based on previous equipment tampering cases were met with fines and Brady was never specifically warned he could be suspended for telling his assistants to tamper with the balls
 
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Agreed plus I am extremely bothered by the notion that a football league can be pressured by its sponsors and a shrill public to create its own system of "justice" outside of and inferior to the one we’ve already established for all citizens in this country
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I agree and had they have real evidence of DV I would not blink an eye for Zeke or any player being suspended. However I do expect some prove of guilt outside the alleged victims own photos. All I am seeing is a vindictive person trying to get back at a player who dumped her. She evidently went far enough to even sleep with a teammate then text him about it. The other issue I have is of course Josh Brown whom they know full well that he committed an act of domestic violence even admitting it and they had down a 1 game suspension? None of this adds up

Heck I would even be in agreement with the league had they handed down a 1 or 2 game suspension to Zeke for pulling down a woman's top, at least their was evidence and admission.
 
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Ghost12 said:
Oh absolutely. The NFLPA learned a lot of lessons during the Brady case. His case paved the way for how well this one has been handled. Not sure how many in here remember, but back in 2015, everyone assumed Brady would appeal his suspension in a court of law and he would probably do so in Minnesota. The NFL surprised everyone by filing first with their "Motion to Confirm" so they got to choose the setting which ultimately worked in their favor (Brady did indeed file in Minnesota, but since he filed second, it was thrown out of Minnesota and sent to NY). And that's why the same legal team didn't even bother waiting for the (sham) arbitrator's ruling this time around.

Then next time this happens, the NFL will probably be sure to file extra early in CA2 so the player doesn't get to choose the venue.
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Cannot motion to confirm a judgment that has not been made.
 
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Doomsday101 said:
Heck I would even be in agreement with the league had they handed down a 1 or 2 game suspension to Zeke for pulling down a woman's top, at least their was evidence and admission.
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we're in simpatico, I kind of wish they hadn't stated there was no punishment for the top pull down issue because they could have settled on 2 games for that and cleared Zeke on the DV issues and put this whole mess behind us, I'm sick of hearing about it and just want to enjoy some football
 
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I'm with you. I saw a interview with Dak in which he told Zeke. We live in a glass house as NFL players and even more so as a Cowboy and we have to be careful. Once this is behind them I hope Zeke understands he is in a glass house that all can see and judgement in what you do and who you hang with matters.
 
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Holy crap, Sally Jenkins at the Washington Post goes on the warpath against Goodell in this column.....



https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...b822a46da5b_story.html?utm_term=.e33266efaa19

It’s time for NFL owners to rethink the powers of the commissioner, for the sake of their own business reputations, which are being sullied. Roger Goodell uses his office as if he’s a black-jack-wielding tough from the 1920s with a crank-starting car. :eek::eek::eek: Every other league has seen fit to go to a mature, modern system of neutral arbitration in player discipline cases, for the simple reason that it works better for all. Meanwhile, the NFL lingers in a previous century for the sake of one man’s ego.

At this point the question is not whether Ezekiel Elliott committed domestic abuse, which he may well have, but why the commissioner serially abuses his broad disciplinary power and so undermines basic rules of fairness during “investigations” that it becomes impossible to know the facts. Why is it that, in every major adjudication, this commissioner is more interested in subjugating a player, clubbing him with his personal authority, than running a decently transparent process?

Owners must be careful here. Chronic misconduct by the league office threatens to have a competitive impact, to make audiences question the integrity of the game on the field. This is conduct truly detrimental.
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Holy crap, Sally Jenkins at the Washington Post goes on the warpath against Goodell in this column.....
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bam!

Ask any legal expert what they make of it, and what you get is rueful bemusement. I called four renowned legal minds, and this is what they had to say.

“What Goodell does under Article 46 is not arbitration,” said Roger Abrams, who has decided more than 2,300 cases for Major League baseball, the IRS, coal industry, and Fortune 500 companies, and who teaches law at Northeastern University.

“It’s a terrible process, terrible,” said Mark Conrad, a Fordham University professor of sports law, business and ethics. “It really is antithetical to any reasonable idea of what an arbitration should be.”

“It’s the worst of the major leagues by a wide margin,” said Peter Carfagna, former general counsel at IMG and a distinguished lecturer in sports law at Case Western Reserve and Harvard University, and who also owns the Cleveland Indians’ Class A affiliate.
 
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bam!

Ask any legal expert what they make of it, and what you get is rueful bemusement. I called four renowned legal minds, and this is what they had to say.

“What Goodell does under Article 46 is not arbitration,” said Roger Abrams, who has decided more than 2,300 cases for Major League baseball, the IRS, coal industry, and Fortune 500 companies, and who teaches law at Northeastern University.

“It’s a terrible process, terrible,” said Mark Conrad, a Fordham University professor of sports law, business and ethics. “It really is antithetical to any reasonable idea of what an arbitration should be.”

“It’s the worst of the major leagues by a wide margin,” said Peter Carfagna, former general counsel at IMG and a distinguished lecturer in sports law at Case Western Reserve and Harvard University, and who also owns the Cleveland Indians’ Class A affiliate.
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Note those are 4 of the best legal SPORTS minds in the country. They specialize in sports law. And not ONE of them had a good thing to say about Goodell or the system he's created for the NFL.
 
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A year later, what a joke. This undoubtedly is trying to sabotage any argument about uneven application of the policy. I would hope any judge would see right through this. (Although I'm not sure how relevant it is to this case since the argument is about process and not length of suspension)
 
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