NFLPA is Investigating the Cowboys for Collusion in regards to the Dez Bryant deal

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At the beginning of the Gambino crime family, the young Carlo Gambino would go to the shop owners and sell them protection from the hoodlums to prevent the store windows from being broken. If they refused, Carlo and his crew would break the windows until they paid.

This news seems similar.
 

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Hardy's appeal being considered good news is the response the NFL wanted. The knew that 10 games was absurd but 4 games was probably too much. Now they even have Cowboy fans saying to just take the 4 games and move on.

Im sorry having him for SIX more games than we thought is big... He will be dialed in more for our playoff push late in the season with fresher legs going into the playoffs...
 

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VoldAMara at work.... JPP not available, so mess with Cowboys...

Mara works for the NFL not the NFLPA.

....besides, they probably can't prove ****. They are just trying to cause a stink to get one to fold and make a contract they don't want to make. The players are the one at higher risk. Wait them out.
 
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Let's analyze this...

If Condon can represent both receivers, who can talk to each other, why can't the teams also talk to each other on the other side?

Umm, what can Condon do with the knowledge? He isn't allowed to discuss (ie bring up in negotiations) the other players contract with the other player/team. Therefore he can't pit them against each other until one of the contracts is signed and made public. A contract must be signed before he can use it to beef up another contract. Therefore this question has no merit. Not to mention, the first guy that signs knows he is nothing but a tool for the other player which is probably why neither one of them has signed yet. They want to use the other's contract as leverage.
 

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This could be bad, or.....

It could be designed to prevent either team from "setting the receiver market" too low.

Just my quick guess.

The NFLPA is always complaining about teams. The majority of the time it fades away very quickly
If the nfl starts looking then it's time to be concerned
Wouldn't shock me if the teams had talked
Would shock me if either side was stupid enough to do so in a manner that could be an issue
 

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Umm, what can Condon do with the knowledge? He isn't allowed to discuss (ie bring up in negotiations) the other players contract with the other player/team. Therefore he can't pit them against each other until one of the contracts is signed and made public. A contract must be signed before he can use it to beef up another contract. Therefore this question has no merit. Not to mention, the first guy that signs knows he is nothing but a tool for the other player which is probably why neither one of them has signed yet. They want to use the other's contract as leverage.
I think teams talk about contract more often than most thinks
I also think agents do discuss negotiations with other teams if it helps them get a deal done
 

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What are they bugging the Front Offices now? How could they possibly have any proof of this without doing something illegal themselves? Their word against our word.

Man, you'd think they'd let us be happy with the Hardy reduction for a day or two. Unreal.

Just because thy can't prove it, doesn't mean they should not pursue it. There likely is no proof, but most of us can agree that the NFL colludes. Maybe not to this extent, but the cap penalties was a pretty good example, as well as the emergency fund of TV money that was paid to the owners in the event of a lockout (or what ever it was, I forget the details). One day, someone will be dumb enough to get caught (see Danny Ferry, obviously not the same, but you get my drift), so if Dez's and Demarius' deals are that similar, the NFLPA should investigate.
 

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I think teams talk about contract more often than most thinks
I also think agents do discuss negotiations with other teams if it helps them get a deal done

fwiw, it's typically illegal when business' do that but not when labor organizations.
 

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Where the heck have you been lately? You're like my movie reference BFF. This song came to my mind as well when I saw that. :laugh:
 

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Hardy's appeal being considered good news is the response the NFL wanted. The knew that 10 games was absurd but 4 games was probably too much. Now they even have Cowboy fans saying to just take the 4 games and move on.

It's kind of genius when you think about it. They got everyone so used to the 10 games ruling for 5+ weeks, and now that it's reduced to 4 games (which is probably what they were wanting him to get all along), that seems low in comparison. But really it's still 2 games more than he should reasonably get. I gotta give the NFL props for pulling that off pretty well, as much as I don't like it.
 

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this a serious question?

I'm sure he knows how the issue is approached legally.

But given that both players have the same agent and it's a two way negotiation, it's fair to ask what is really.... fair.
Obviously, one side of the negotiation for both players, for the two teams is getting a collusive representation. It's legal, but it's worth asking if it's at least a bit unfair.
 
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There was more obvious collusion during the uncapped year and the NFLPA could not prove it. Hell the NFL fined two teams by not abiding by the "Gentlemen's Agreement' for the uncapped year and the NFLPA still couldn't get enough to prove collusion.
 

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Hard to prove either way but they've been doing Dez dirty with lowball offers....
 

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Wait, they both have the same agent?

That's really funny to me. What are the consequences of said collusion?

It's obvious that the agent will try and set a floor with whichever team caves first.

After this, i'd gladly send a txt to Elway from a Canada # and they can both ride the tag this year.
 
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