No African-American Coaches Hired Yet

[superpunk]

WHo in the heck said there should be a day of killing white people????

Chris Farley. Black Sheep. But, he WAS high at the time.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Chris Farley.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh NO....LOL

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Chris Farley. Black Sheep. But, he WAS high at the time.

Ain't he White????

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Interesting question..................Why is it that a forum member here has an avatar of one of the biggest racist biggots around and nobody seems to care?

Who is this? I dont know which poster you are talking about, please advise.

 

[superpunk]

Mike: "So anyway, what you're saying, I'm the man, whitey and you guys are the victims of a tyrannical, racist, oppressive society."
Rastafarians: "That's right."
Mike: "Man, that sucks!"
Rastafarians: "Sucks, true."
Mike: "I'm gonna talk to some people, straighten this out, man."
Rastafarians: "Alright!"
Mike: "It's a bunch of bullcrap!"


http://www.gotwavs.com/cgi-bin/mp3s.cgi?Black_Sheep=killwhitey.mp3

 

[Maikeru-sama]

LEt me ask you a question Mick. If you and I are equally qualified for the same position and we have the same senority or experience, what do you think should be the determining factor? Your skin color? Or your presentation of yourself during the interview process? Do you think the job should be given to you based on the fact that you are a Black man? Because I know that if it were given to me because I am a White man there would surley be cries of racism.

That is a serious question by the way. I really want to know.

Based on this question, you are assuming I am for Race-based favors, which I clearly am not.

Well the biggest issue with your example is that studies show minorities arent even getting the interviews.

Isnt it human nature for people to want to be around people that are like them? Want to hire people that look, talk, dress, like them.

For instance, I work for a Fortune 300 Company and all my bosses are white, all my bossess bosses are white and all their bosses are white. I ask you is this a coincidence or do all those guys deserve to be in their position and minorities are not qualified? There is a white female that is an Executive and the rest are all white males. I bet my company's makup is pretty much the rule, not the exception.

Heck my arse was probably hired because they knew they needed some color .

I think it is human nature for people to want to reward, promote, hire etc etc individuals that are like themselves, so sadly enough, though I will probably be eliminated from alot of jobs simply based on that.

- Mike G.

 

[marsbennett]

WHo in the heck said there should be a day of killing white people????

Queen Latifah....In like 1990.

 

[marsbennett]

Based on this question, you are assuming I am for Race-based favors, which I clearly am not.

Well the biggest issue with your example is that studies show minorities arent even getting the interviews.

Isnt it human nature for people to want to be around people that are like them? Want to hire people that look, talk, dress, like them.

For instance, I work for a Fortune 300 Company and all my bosses are white, all my bossess bosses are white and all their bosses are white. I ask you is this a coincidence or do all those guys deserve to be in their position and minorities are not qualified? There is a white female that is an Executive and the rest are all white males. I bet my company's makup is pretty much the rule, not the exception.

Heck my arse was probably hired because they knew they needed some color .

I think it is human nature for people to want to reward, promote, hire etc etc individuals that are like themselves, so sadly enough, though I will probably be eliminated from alot of jobs simply based on that.

- Mike G.

What I'm finding unusual is that everyone thinks whites are doing so ****ing great these days. Frankly, I wish a black guy, or some damn body, would come and take my pain in the *** job! The good one I used to have is taken already..................TO ASIA.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Racism surely does still exist all over the world. Thing is, its not something that any one race has the market cornered on. Not by a long shot. Interesting question..................Why is it that a forum member here has an avatar of one of the biggest racist biggots around and nobody seems to care? A person who has made anti semetic remarks over and over again. A person who has made the comment after the L.A Riots that " there should be one day a year devoted to killing white people"!? Why is that? You see, were judged by what we say as much as what we do. If another member had an avatar of say David Duke I can assure you he would be called on it in an instant. Rightfully so I might add. Thing I dont understand is this poster has always been top shelf in her actions here. I dont get it? Interesting to say the least....

Same reason that:

Robert Byrd, an ex member of the KKK is a U.S. Senator.

Trent Lott, a man who has made racist statments in the past is a U.S. Senator.

Rush Limbaugh, a man known to attack minorities and offer up all kinds of racist rhetoric can be hired on NFL Primetime.

Donna Brazile can make a remark such as "Republicans are the party of the White Boys" and still be Al Gore's campaign manager.

All the stuff you mentioned isnt nothing new and very easy to explain....

 

[WoodysGirl]

Queen Latifah....In like 1990.

That was my assumption...

Quoting something from a time that was during an extremely intense time in America does not devalue her career in my eyes. I don't condone the comment, but I remember the time vividly and how I felt, so it doesn't lessen her contributions to me.

Comparing her to David Duke is really crazy, IMO. Since her history prior to that and since has never been to the level of ignorance and hatred that Duke proposed. It's always been Afrocentric, but on a positive level.

 

[superpunk]

Based on this question, you are assuming I am for Race-based favors, which I clearly am not.

Well the biggest issue with your example is that studies show minorities arent even getting the interviews.

Isnt it human nature for people to want to be around people that are like them? Want to hire people that look, talk, dress, like them.

For instance, I work for a Fortune 300 Company and all my bosses are white, all my bossess bosses are white and all their bosses are white. I ask you is this a coincidence or do all those guys deserve to be in their position and minorities are not qualified? There is a white female that is an Executive and the rest are all white males. I bet my company's makup is pretty much the rule, not the exception.

Heck my arse was probably hired because they knew they needed some color .

I think it is human nature for people to want to reward, promote, hire etc etc individuals that are like themselves, so sadly enough, though I will probably be eliminated from alot of jobs simply based on that.

- Mike G.

Mick, don't you find that as kind of a defeatist attitude? I work in a field that is dominated by white men. I live ina very conservative, country part of the nation. Yet, one of the most respected people I know is a black woman working in my field. She's smart, she doesn't take any crap from anyone, and she accomplishes whatever she wants. She's in position to buy into our company once the current owners start to retire. If she had the attitude that, "Oh well, this is a field that is almost exclusively white male, I may as well not even bother trying to advance," do you think she could accomplish any of this.

She has spoken candidly with me about that attitude. If minorities continue to heaer those excuses, they will believe them. That is a problem more than any preconcieved notion of "the white man holding me down," IMO. In almost all positions in life, if you are qualified, and you are confident, and you exhibit the attitude necessary to advance, you will be the one given the opportunities. It has as much to do with the attitudes of minorites as it does with any sort of perceived racism.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

What I'm finding unusual is that everyone thinks whites are doing so ****ing great these days. Frankly, I wish a black guy, or some damn body, would come and take my pain in the *** job! The good one I used to have is taken already..................TO ASIA.

Blame George Bush and many of the heads of Fortune 500 Companies such as Dell for that. Bush and most of these guys are for Offshoring and moving jobs to India and Asia for economic benefits.

And to add, you continue to take my comments way out of context. I offer up one example, and then you pass it off as me saying All Whites are doing well.

Although studies do show Whites, poor or rich are doing better than most minorities.

Heck, I was watching Howard Stern about a year ago and found out there is even racism in Porn.

Racism is alive and well, like Joe Friday use to say, "That's just the facs ma'am".

- Mike G.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

That was my assumption...

Quoting something from a time that was during an extremely intense time in America does not devalue her career in my eyes. I don't condone the comment, but I remember the time vividly and how I felt, so it doesn't lessen her contributions to me.

Comparing her to David Duke is really crazy, IMO. Since her history prior to that and since has never been to the level of ignorance and hatred that Duke proposed. It's always been Afrocentric, but on a positive level.

Thankyou for clearing that up. As I said, Iv'e always thought of you as being one of the better posters in here. I can KINDA understand a little better now. Still, im sure you can see how someone could take offense. She has made some pretty anti semetic remarks in her past though. More of this is whats needed today, communication between people when there is a problem. Helps each side to see the others point. Without communication we are truly lost....

 

[Nors]

move this to political or nfl zone.

not a Cowboy topic and getting old

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Mick, don't you find that as kind of a defeatist attitude? I work in a field that is dominated by white men.

No. I am just a realist and though things will always get better, Racism is here to stay. You can go to every country in the World and you will see Racism, Prejudice, Religous intolerance.

She has spoken candidly with me about that attitude. If minorities continue to heaer those excuses, they will believe them. That is a problem more than any preconcieved notion of "the white man holding me down," IMO. In almost all positions in life, if you are qualified, and you are confident, and you exhibit the attitude necessary to advance, you will be the one given the opportunities. It has as much to do with the attitudes of minorites as it does with any sort of perceived racism.

What attitude is that? Are not my perceptions and beliefs based upon what I have seen and what I have been through? I have heard of Racism, I have been told of Racism and I have been a victim of Racism, that is just a fact. Who said anything about the "The White Man Holding Me down"? That is the Wizard of Oz, I offered statistics from credibile sources and experience of my own, to show that Racism is alive and kicking in the United States. I have no idea how that is being negative, it is just being real.

]In almost all positions in life, if you are qualified, and you are confident, and you exhibit the attitude necessary to advance, you will be the one given the opportunities.

Oh, how I wish that were so true. From my vantage point, that happens quite a bit, but not hiring based on this happens quite a bit too.

Also, this woman you speak of, let me guess she is Conservative politically and thinks every Black person has the same exact opportunity as his White Counterpart, even those statistics and facts show differntly?

This woman wouldnt happen to be Condelezza Rice would it ?

- Mike G.

 

[burmafrd]

Latifah has made MANY anti-semetic remarks but no one makes anything of it because she is black. The same way Harry Belofonte can call Colin Powel a plantation slave and no one does anything about that. The so called black leadership consists of some of the biggest racists around.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Latifah has made MANY anti-semetic remarks but no one makes anything of it because she is black. The same way Harry Belofonte can call Colin Powel a plantation slave and no one does anything about that. The so called black leadership consists of some of the biggest racists around.

Just like Trent Lott, a known racist and Robert Byrd, a former member of the KKK are in the United States Senate, but I dont see them being removed from office...

It goes both ways....

- Mike G.

 

[burmafrd]

Mike G, you really hate Black Republicans don't you?I guess you feel the same way Black Democrats do- that no black should be allowed to be either Conservative or Republican. SO much for tolerance and freedom from those that like to boast of being so tolerant and wanting freedom for all.

 

[trueblue1687]

There people go again with name calling, being all judgemental and character assasination again.

Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and alot of other Black Leaders who have been despised have done alot of good in their life. They are flawed and have their own faults but just to make a statement like that to suggest that that is what those men are all about is very misleading and extremely wrong. Just go ask the Miners he spoke up for years back, speaking out against racial profiling, leading peacful demonstrations in the Middle East, the hostages helped freed, and helping 450 Students in New Orleans at Xavier University among other things.

Yeah, I thought AL did alot of good when he tried to broker that COCAINE deal that was exposed back in his run for the Presidency!:laugh2:. Jesse Jackass is nothing more than an extortionist. He highjacks companies for $$ with the threat of saying that they are racist. That has been WELL documented and publicised. Toyota was one of the last victims to the tune of MILLIONS of dollars. They are perhaps the biggest BAGS of all...using their own race to promote their extravagant lifestyles.

 

[burmafrd]

Jesse Jackson and those like him are welfare pimps. they have no interest in the Black population getting out of poverty because then they have no job or influence.