CFZ No one wants to debate Pollards new role?

[Beaker42]

It's been a great start to the season so don't get me wrong but being a huge Ezekiel Elliott fan and getting tired of all the negativity that went towards his allegedly being washed you know how much mileage that dude has on his legs from the back-to-back 1800 yard seasons in college his 1600 yard top five rookie campaign and all the carries he got here and then he's being criticized for having 3.8 yards per carry being the number one back.....

I like Tony Pollard but let's go back and see what his last six games looks like and I can tell you this right now without even going with a calculator he finished the season last year, the last five games, he got injured twice, 3.8 yards per carry, no touchdowns, no explosive plays, 51 yards per game...hmmm​

​

He's somehow being applauded for his 25 carries 75-yard output against The Jets, who have yes a very good defense our offensive lines a little banged up but when did Ezekiel Elliott ever get this type of positivity and being pat on the back for something like that??​

​

I've been saying this all along Tony Pollard is not a true number one running back when he has to take carries on 1st and 2nd down and he's the new target for the defense, this was gonna happen and this fact is his legs are not overused, he is not Ezekiel Elliott he never has been he never will be as far as what he did in college and what Elliott did for our team you know 8200 rushing yards a ton of touchdowns, great receiving stats, you know he could be compared to some of the greats..​

​

So in my opinion we should discuss this and what I think needs to happen is the coaches should limit Tony Pollard to under 18 yards of carry every game now, I know he held up but don't you want Tony Pollard to be Tony Pollard come playoff time?​

​

I think the plan should be to use him less,​

​

use Rico dowdle, use deuce Vaughn, use the true running back by committee to keep Tony pollard's legs fresher for the bigger game's, bigger moments, and for sure the playoffs.​

​

I would like his explosiveness back and we knew this was going to happen the man should not be carrying the ball more than 15 to 18 yards a game and if he's got to run all these dirty plays and these short yardage plays, which by the way some of the red zone issues are because of the running back situation here and we miss Elliot a little bit that I think that coaches are making a mistake running this dude 25 * a game... I mean this is exactly what we thought Tony Pollard was he literally has to have one of those big long runs in order to have that lofty 5 yards per carry average everybody was bragging about well where did that go? So now you're telling me that Tony Pollard should be applauded for looking like a washed up Ezekiel Elliott?​

​

Again this is not a knock on Tony Pollard,​

​

I was just sitting here reading one of these Facebook stories about how Tony powers our new bell cow back he should be applauded for his efforts for 25 carries but they don't mention 3 yards per carry is a pretty weak showing for a starting running back and yet if this was Elliot they'd be talking about how he needs to be benched and cut and he's making too much money does anybody remember that Tony powers making $10 million???​

​

So I think in my opinion the coaches are making a mistake here....​

​

I know somebody's going to say I shouldn't be negative or winning the games blah blah blah but I'm thinking ahead I'd like Tony Pollard to get back to the way he was if he needs to get less carries then that's what we should do...​

​

​

If Dowdle keeps toting the rock line he did Sunday then enjoy TP with a star on his helmet over the next 18 games. It’ll be gone next season.

 

[BLEU3ASY]

I’d say that they are easing him back on the field but go ahead with your 30 page analysis.. lol

 

[zerofill]

Pollard won't be long term... Doubt he is here next year. Just because running backs really are a dime a dozen now.

 

[KJJ]

Pollard currently has 39 carries. He had 15 carries after the first two games last season. I think most of us figured with Zeke gone he was going to get the brunt of the carries this season, especially with the Cowboys paying him over $10 million on the franchise tag. He may end up pushing 300 carries this season if he stays healthy. It appears the Cowboys are going to get what they can out of him and move on after this season. He’s likely to wear down as the season progresses, and he may not stay healthy. Hopefully we try and balance out the load a little more between the backs, so he stays effective as we approach December and January.

 

[BrassCowboy]

RBs wear out too quick to be the sole ball carrier. you have to share the load and be more than one dimensional in your running game

 

[starfan1]

And then you get to the playoffs where those holes are often not there. Now what?

You lose ! The line has to be an important part of your success. Very rare do playoff winning teams not have quality trenches

 

[CowboyRoy]

It's been a great start to the season so don't get me wrong but being a huge Ezekiel Elliott fan and getting tired of all the negativity that went towards his allegedly being washed you know how much mileage that dude has on his legs from the back-to-back 1800 yard seasons in college his 1600 yard top five rookie campaign and all the carries he got here and then he's being criticized for having 3.8 yards per carry being the number one back.....

I like Tony Pollard but let's go back and see what his last six games looks like and I can tell you this right now without even going with a calculator he finished the season last year, the last five games, he got injured twice, 3.8 yards per carry, no touchdowns, no explosive plays, 51 yards per game...hmmm​

​

He's somehow being applauded for his 25 carries 75-yard output against The Jets, who have yes a very good defense our offensive lines a little banged up but when did Ezekiel Elliott ever get this type of positivity and being pat on the back for something like that??​

​

I've been saying this all along Tony Pollard is not a true number one running back when he has to take carries on 1st and 2nd down and he's the new target for the defense, this was gonna happen and this fact is his legs are not overused, he is not Ezekiel Elliott he never has been he never will be as far as what he did in college and what Elliott did for our team you know 8200 rushing yards a ton of touchdowns, great receiving stats, you know he could be compared to some of the greats..​

​

So in my opinion we should discuss this and what I think needs to happen is the coaches should limit Tony Pollard to under 18 yards of carry every game now, I know he held up but don't you want Tony Pollard to be Tony Pollard come playoff time?​

​

I think the plan should be to use him less,​

​

use Rico dowdle, use deuce Vaughn, use the true running back by committee to keep Tony pollard's legs fresher for the bigger game's, bigger moments, and for sure the playoffs.​

​

I would like his explosiveness back and we knew this was going to happen the man should not be carrying the ball more than 15 to 18 yards a game and if he's got to run all these dirty plays and these short yardage plays, which by the way some of the red zone issues are because of the running back situation here and we miss Elliot a little bit that I think that coaches are making a mistake running this dude 25 * a game... I mean this is exactly what we thought Tony Pollard was he literally has to have one of those big long runs in order to have that lofty 5 yards per carry average everybody was bragging about well where did that go? So now you're telling me that Tony Pollard should be applauded for looking like a washed up Ezekiel Elliott?​

​

Again this is not a knock on Tony Pollard,​

​

I was just sitting here reading one of these Facebook stories about how Tony powers our new bell cow back he should be applauded for his efforts for 25 carries but they don't mention 3 yards per carry is a pretty weak showing for a starting running back and yet if this was Elliot they'd be talking about how he needs to be benched and cut and he's making too much money does anybody remember that Tony powers making $10 million???​

​

So I think in my opinion the coaches are making a mistake here....​

​

I know somebody's going to say I shouldn't be negative or winning the games blah blah blah but I'm thinking ahead I'd like Tony Pollard to get back to the way he was if he needs to get less carries then that's what we should do...​

​

​

First of all its two different subjects.

Let handle the first one............ZEKE. Zeke was great but he sucks now. He pretty much sucked for the last 3 years before this one. Pollard was the better back.

#2.......The great thing about Pollards last game was he touched the ball 32 times and did all the dirty work in a tough, defensive, pound it game. He continues to do things you Zeke apologists claim he could never do. Anyone watching the game also saw that our Oline was getting blown up most of the game on a lot of those runs. Pollard also had a TD called back and a nice 2 point conversion.

But we digress. You can cherry pick all you want. Lets give the kid a chance to be the #1 back before you Zeke cry babies start huffing and puffing. We wont be playing the Jets D every week. Pollard is going to have his incredible games.

Lets also not forget that this is much more of a RB by committee situation as it should be. No longer are we going to consistently give one back the ball 25-30 times a game.

If they use Pollard like that most games he will be done by midseason. This was never about Pollard vs Zeke is first few years. This was always about Pollard now vs Zeke now. Its no comparison and hasnt been for 3 or 4 years.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I agree with the OP

Thats because you are Zeke cry baby just like he is. LOL

 

[CTcowboy203]

couldn’t careless about zeke anymore or comparisons or contrasts to his play or situation. He’s no longer on the team, it’s a new year. Everyone should move on just like the cowboys (correctly) did from zeke

 

[CowboyRoy]

Actually Pollard has been outstanding so far. Who would have thought Pollard could hold up against a defense like the Jets. He played like early career Zeke and kept the Jets honest. 25 carries against that defense.

And 7 receptions a 2 point conversion and a TD called back by penalty.

 

[G2]

I'm guessing it's more of an actual, legible debate issue w/ the OP.

 

[kskboys]

You lose ! The line has to be an important part of your success. Very rare do playoff winning teams not have quality trenches

Very rarely is there consistent room to run. You must have a RB who can get yds that are not blocked in the playoffs.

 

[kskboys]

I'm guessing it's more of an actual, legible debate issue w/ the OP.

I don't even try any more.

 

[starfan1]

Very rarely is there consistent room to run. You must have a RB who can get yds that are not blocked in the playoffs.

Tony can do that but again if the line gets beat up and underperform we’re going home early.
Has very little to with a RB getting yards that aren’t there imo that’s a bonus.
Especially in todays game.

 

[G2]

I don't even try any more.

I'm not a strong enough reader

 

[Kingofholland]

It's been a great start to the season so don't get me wrong but being a huge Ezekiel Elliott fan and getting tired of all the negativity that went towards his allegedly being washed you know how much mileage that dude has on his legs from the back-to-back 1800 yard seasons in college his 1600 yard top five rookie campaign and all the carries he got here and then he's being criticized for having 3.8 yards per carry being the number one back.....

I like Tony Pollard but let's go back and see what his last six games looks like and I can tell you this right now without even going with a calculator he finished the season last year, the last five games, he got injured twice, 3.8 yards per carry, no touchdowns, no explosive plays, 51 yards per game...hmmm​

​

He's somehow being applauded for his 25 carries 75-yard output against The Jets, who have yes a very good defense our offensive lines a little banged up but when did Ezekiel Elliott ever get this type of positivity and being pat on the back for something like that??​

​

I've been saying this all along Tony Pollard is not a true number one running back when he has to take carries on 1st and 2nd down and he's the new target for the defense, this was gonna happen and this fact is his legs are not overused, he is not Ezekiel Elliott he never has been he never will be as far as what he did in college and what Elliott did for our team you know 8200 rushing yards a ton of touchdowns, great receiving stats, you know he could be compared to some of the greats..​

​

So in my opinion we should discuss this and what I think needs to happen is the coaches should limit Tony Pollard to under 18 yards of carry every game now, I know he held up but don't you want Tony Pollard to be Tony Pollard come playoff time?​

​

I think the plan should be to use him less,​

​

use Rico dowdle, use deuce Vaughn, use the true running back by committee to keep Tony pollard's legs fresher for the bigger game's, bigger moments, and for sure the playoffs.​

​

I would like his explosiveness back and we knew this was going to happen the man should not be carrying the ball more than 15 to 18 yards a game and if he's got to run all these dirty plays and these short yardage plays, which by the way some of the red zone issues are because of the running back situation here and we miss Elliot a little bit that I think that coaches are making a mistake running this dude 25 * a game... I mean this is exactly what we thought Tony Pollard was he literally has to have one of those big long runs in order to have that lofty 5 yards per carry average everybody was bragging about well where did that go? So now you're telling me that Tony Pollard should be applauded for looking like a washed up Ezekiel Elliott?​

​

Again this is not a knock on Tony Pollard,​

​

I was just sitting here reading one of these Facebook stories about how Tony powers our new bell cow back he should be applauded for his efforts for 25 carries but they don't mention 3 yards per carry is a pretty weak showing for a starting running back and yet if this was Elliot they'd be talking about how he needs to be benched and cut and he's making too much money does anybody remember that Tony powers making $10 million???​

​

So I think in my opinion the coaches are making a mistake here....​

​

I know somebody's going to say I shouldn't be negative or winning the games blah blah blah but I'm thinking ahead I'd like Tony Pollard to get back to the way he was if he needs to get less carries then that's what we should do...​

​

​

Well thought out and interesting debate. To me I was more impressed he got 25 carries in a physical game. Too early to tell what work load is right for Pollard or make any judgements that he's handling too much.

-We're 2 games in, go ask the Raiders if Josh Jacobs isnt a feature back because he started the season averaging 1.6 a carry.
-Pollard had a good game against the Giants. Against the Jets the only quarter that was good on the ground was Q3, but he had a better first half than 2nd half. So hard to argue he got too much work in the 1st half which limited production in half 2.
-Tough to judge the 4th quarter because the Cowboys ran him to take time off the clock and the Jets were setting up to stop it. They probably could have mixed in Rico and Vaughn for a few more carries, but probably truated Pollard more.

 

[Frosty]

And 7 receptions a 2 point conversion and a TD called back by penalty.

IMO you have to look at the way McCarthy used RB's at Green Bay....then take into account DAK has to spread the ball around now more than ever, You got TP, Cook, Gallup, CD Lamb, Ferguson.... So the days of a dominate RB are gone....it's about balance and ball control

But the good news is TP - 39 carries for 142yds and 3.6yds per carry...not to bad...but the dude gets a SOLID 20pts in Fantasy,,,and thats what counts...lol

 

[zrinkill]

Thats because you are Zeke cry baby just like he is. LOL

Says the biggest Zeke crybaby on the forum.

 

[kskboys]

Tony can do that but again if the line gets beat up and underperform we’re going home early.
Has very little to with a RB getting yards that aren’t there imo that’s a bonus.
Especially in todays game.

Man, I'm thinking you don't watch the NFL playoffs. It's often all about getting yards that aren't there. You don't get to face many bad rushing D's in the playoffs.

Not really. Polly is an open field type runner. He's very good at it.

 

[kskboys]

I'm not a strong enough reader

It's like reading a grade schooler's scribble.