RELEASED Nolan Carroll Released

[Idgit]

It was said. Clearly. Maybe before rushing to the defense of the indefensible, you should stop and think it through?

"It may or may not have been dumb" means that the issue of of how dumb the signing might have been was not the point. It does not mean that "it was not a dumb signing."

Out of curiosity, though, since you're intent on being bothered by this one...is it worse than the Great Lucky Whitehead Release Debacle? Better? Or about the same? I need a better sense of how a RealistTM keeps such things in context. From where I'm sitting, I'd consider it 'about the same.'

 

[unionjack8]

Damontre Moore better buck his ideas up or he should be next. What exactly is he offers g right now?
Give the Neal kid a shot.....

 

[Stash]

"It may or may not have been dumb" means that the issue of of how dumb the signing might have been was not the point. It does not mean that "it was not a dumb signing."

Out of curiosity, though, since you're intent on being bothered by this one...is it worse than the Great Lucky Whitehead Release Debacle? Better? Or about the same? I need a better sense of how a RealistTM keeps such things in context. From where I'm sitting, I'd consider it 'about the same.'

You don't need to be burdened by such things.

Just keep on with your "Everything They Do Is Right" even when it's epically wrong mantra.

It's working so well thus far.

 

[Seven]

David Irving?

OMG.... you're gonna throw ONE player out there? One? Seriously.

 

[Idgit]

You don't need to be burdened by such things.

Just keep on with your "Everything They Do Is Right" even when it's epically wrong mantra.

It's working so well thus far.

Lol. You ought to read more of my recent posts in other threads if that's what you actually think, stash. Not that that ever stops you from pretending otherwise.

We've made a lot of mistakes in putting this defense and this team together. Renting Nolan Carroll is a footnote among them. We've got much bigger issues with the LB corps in general and with stopping the run along the front 7 in particular. We blew the Jaylon pick, we erred in playing him before he was ready, too. There's a world of difference between putting lipstick on a pig and laying the responsibility where it ought to go in the first place.

 

[jwooten15]

OMG.... you're gonna throw ONE player out there? One? Seriously.

Lol. All it took was one name to disprove your statement. Regardless if I agree with the basic idea of your thought, the words you chose were still not accurate. No reason to get butt hurt about it

 

[tyke1doe]

In fairness I saw NOBODY even remotely compare him to Deion unless it was in jest.

Most people did not like it. I am sure there were some that did but there are some that will like any move.

But let's not make it out like most thought he was a great player and a great signing and that we got a steal or something.

The Deion comment was EXTREME hyperbole.
But there were quite a few who thought it was a good signing. That's what shocked me about it and prompted my reaction.
But maybe they didn't remember Carroll got torched by Dez.

 

[Seven]

Lol. All it took was one name to disprove your statement. Regardless if I agree with the basic idea of your thought, the words you chose were still not accurate. No reason to get butt hurt about it

Who's butt hurt. You offer one out of the many failures and you disproved my statement? You work for the government?



Jesus, dude. Seriously get a grip.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

 

[KingintheNorth]

Hyde was a guy I was hoping we'd look at to replace Church.

Who are the free agent safeties next year?

Kenny Vaccaro, New Orleans
Eric Reid, San Francisco
Morgan Burnett, Green Bay
Calvin Pryor, Jacksonville
T.J. Ward, Tampa Bay
Lamarcus Joyner, LA Rams

No sure thing but sooner or later, you need to gamble on talent and can't just settle for your in-house JAG (Heath). Keep an eye on Arizona with the Honey Badger. The team has an option where they owe Mathieu an additional $18 million guaranteed if he is on the 2018 roster.

Draft has some hopefuls:
Derwin James, Florida State
Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
Kyzie White, West Virginia
Justin Reid, Stanford
Armani Watts, Texas A&M
Marcus Allen, Penn State
Ronnie Harrison, Alabama
Quin Blanding, Virginia
Jordan Whithead, Pittsburgh
Tyree Robinson, Oregon

James and Fitzpatrick are game changers and will probably be drafted higher than our pick. I'm big on Kyzir White from West Virginia. Justin Reid (Eric's little brother) is having a great year so far.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

No great loss. He was terrible here anyway.

In fact I don't remember him being much more then barely average anywhere else either.

 

[Zekeats]

You can learn a lot from bad experiences. Live a little.

Yeah. They only needed to watch his film. Not sign him to a 2 year deal.

 

[Stash]

Lol. You ought to read more of my recent posts in other threads if that's what you actually think, stash. Not that that ever stops you from pretending otherwise.

I don't need to. You asinine statement that it "may or may not be a dumb move" is all the evidence I need. A complete indictment of your football acumen. If the circumstances aren't clear enough for you, it says a lot about how valid your opinion actually is.

We've made a lot of mistakes in putting this defense and this team together. Renting Nolan Carroll is a footnote among them. We've got much bigger issues with the LB corps in general and with stopping the run along the front 7 in particular. We blew the Jaylon pick, we erred in playing him before he was ready, too. There's a world of difference between putting lipstick on a pig and laying the responsibility where it ought to go in the first place.

And you're all about telling us all "where it ought to go" right? Your usual M.O.

Tell yourself whatever you need to in order to sleep at night. Even so far as to try to minimize paying this bum $4 million for absolutely nothing. While watching Carr and Claiborne walk out the door. And now being down a cornerback five games into the season.

This blunder has nothing to do with any issues elsewhere. You want to talk about those? Go make a thread. But those issues don't somehow make this blunder disappear.

 

[risco]

Should not have signed him in the first place.... Now they need to do something with Scandrick!!!!

 

[Sydla]

May or may not have been a bad signing.

LOL.

If you hand a guy a multi-year contract where you have a dead money hit in Year 2 and you cut him 5 games into the contract, that's a bad signing. You can't spread whipped cream on that pile of doggy dung.

 

[Idgit]

I don't need to. You asinine statement that it "may or may not be a dumb move" is all the evidence I need. A complete indictment of your football acumen. If the circumstances aren't clear enough for you, it says a lot about how valid your opinion actually is.



And you're all about telling us all "where it ought to go" right? Your usual M.O.

Tell yourself whatever you need to in order to sleep at night. Even so far as to try to minimize paying this bum $4 million for absolutely nothing. While watching Carr and Claiborne walk out the door. And now being down a cornerback five games into the season.

This blunder has nothing to do with any issues elsewhere. You want to talk about those? Go make a thread. But those issues don't somehow make this blunder disappear.

Lol. I can't help you stash, if you're unfamiliar with what 'It may or may not be' actually means, but this exchange is pretty silly, even for one you're participating in.

I'll chalk this up to yet another ludicrous overreaction on your part and sleep soundly in the certitude that this was a relatively minor transaction regarding a bridge player in order to support a couple of rookie CBs when it's all said and done.

 

[Idgit]

May or may not have been a bad signing.

LOL.

If you hand a guy a multi-year contract where you have a dead money hit in Year 2 and you cut him 5 games into the contract, that's a bad signing. You can't spread whipped cream on that pile of doggy dung.

Jesus, you to? How is this phrase kneecapping you guys? "It may or may not have been" means the quality of that signing is beside the current point. It does not mean I'm defending the signing. The point I then went on to make was that, since he was a bridge player, and the player he was intended to bridge is playing really well, it's not that big of a deal, as it turns out.

Pretty simple. Pretty hard to argue with, too. Unless, of course, you have an issue with what the words actually mean.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Cutting Carroll now could also give Jourdan Lewis a much needed confidence boost. Not that he needs it, but he smashed his helmet into the ground after that last second TD pass from Rodgers on Sunday. This could be some nice reassurance that he's still having a great rookie season.

 

[Carson]

Cutting Carroll now could also give Jourdan Lewis a much needed confidence boost. Not that he needs it, but he smashed his helmet into the ground after that last second TD pass from Rodgers on Sunday. This could be some nice reassurance that he's still having a great rookie season.

Lewis is a stud. He plays with more passion then anybody on the defense (outside of Lee and recently Lawrence). He is going to be damn good

 

[Stash]

Lol. I can't help you stash, if you're unfamiliar with what 'It may or may not be' actually means, but this exchange is pretty silly, even for one you're participating in.

I know exactly what it means. Obviously you didn't. Typed first, thought second. I get it.

Unless of course you somehow want to make the case to support what you claimed and once again enlighten all of us on that "may not" part.

I'll chalk this up to yet another ludicrous overreaction on your part and sleep soundly in the certitude that this was a relatively minor transaction regarding a bridge player in order to support a couple of rookie CBs when it's all said and done.

Chalk it up to whatever you'd like. I'll consider it yet another indictment of your credibility. It's the only things you've succeeded in accomplishing here.

$4 million flushed down the toilet. While watching both starters from last year walk out the door. Make yourself dizzy trying to spin it any other way.