RELEASED Nolan Carroll Released

[lostar2009]

Jerry please do not sign any more ex Eagles players.

 

[LocimusPrime]

I read your post and instead of "Cheepo" I saw "Cheeto".

Now I am hungry.

My apologies brother

 

[tyke1doe]

Cowboys fans are funny.
When Dez was torching this guy for touchdowns, fans were criticizing Carroll mercilessly.
When the Cowboys signed him, you'd have thought we were getting Deion's younger brother.
I was like "Is this the same guy that Cowboys fans were previously calling trash"?
Now that he's gone and no longer a Cowboy, he's gone back to trash.

 

[Idgit]

It's usually the simplest answer.

It was a dumb signing. They cut a CB in October that they should have known in March was a bad CB.

And they will continue to chase their tails if they just think they can build a SB team entirely through the draft and just sign off the street bums like Carroll along the way.

It may or may not have been a dumb signing. That doesn't change the fact that this was a bridge player they signed as starter-insurance prior to the draft that's not been able to get on the field because of a concussion injury who's now been replaced by the rookies the team added later. Cutting this guy is a blip.

The method of drafting and developing has been proven to be an effective one for building teams. I don't agree with your characterization of how they see FA in general. And there's anything wrong with using value FA as stop-gap players where appropriate.

 

[tyke1doe]

Doubt he cares to come out of retirement unless he gets paid. And, he isn't the Revis Island corner any more.

Will you take the Revis street corner then?

 

[Sydla]

It may or may not have been a dumb signing. That doesn't change the fact that this was a bridge player they signed as starter-insurance prior to the draft that's not been able to get on the field because of a concussion injury who's now been replaced by the rookies the team added later. Cutting this guy is a blip.

The method of drafting and developing has been proven to be an effective one for building teams. I don't agree with your characterization of how they see FA in general. And there's anything wrong with using value FA as stop-gap players where appropriate.

There's a difference between "value" FAs and just signing trash. Carroll was trash. He was a bad CB that this team really thought was much better than he was, hence why they chased him two consecutive offseasons.

And no one said drafting and developing isn't effective. But it rarely wins out on its own. At some point, most of the recent SB winning teams have supplemented their drafted players with solid to very good FAs along the way. If the Cowboys think they can just simply draft a SB winning team and get by with just bottom of the barrel FAs like Carroll, it's not going to work.

Look at the Patriots last year - they added guys like Hogan, Sheard, Blount in FA and all were important players for them.

Broncos signed guys like Talib and Ware out of FA and were key players on their SB run.

Most SB teams will have key FA signings on them. Guys better than the Nolan Carrolls of the world.

 

[davey999]

Great FA pickup.

 

[Zekeats]

Too bad he couldn't help us. We need some experience.

Rather have no experience over bad experience

 

[jblaze2004]

I guess the Ben-Wicker-Man is going to get some action. Otherwise, they have to bring someone else in because I have a feeling that Awuzie is out for 5-6 weeks.

Still don't know why we didn't hold him out until after the bye week smh. Let that hammy get right. Our trainers my need something me micro managing

 

[Verdict]

They need to quit bottom feeding during free agency, buy quality or just draft them

Quit over paying for marginal players. I think we gave hom a pretty good salary, and if I'm not mistaken it is guaranteed for this year.

 

[Verdict]

That's what I'm expecting.

Someone may have forced the Cowboys' hand by trying to steal him off of the practice squad.

 

[Plankton]

What's up with Brown this season? I don't think he's as bad as you seem to think here, but he's definitely back-slid. So far this season, even the safer bets on defense are turning up snake eyes.

One would be hard pressed to find many veterans on the roster whose play has improved this season. It's a roster wide problem.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Maybe Marquez White from our own?

Not opposed-- but not excited. We have a lot of young DBs right now. We need a vet LB or S IMO in order to help stabilize things right now.

 

[Stash]

It may or may not have been a dumb signing. That doesn't change the fact that this was a bridge player they signed as starter-insurance prior to the draft that's not been able to get on the field because of a concussion injury who's now been replaced by the rookies the team added later. Cutting this guy is a blip.

The method of drafting and developing has been proven to be an effective one for building teams. I don't agree with your characterization of how they see FA in general. And there's anything wrong with using value FA as stop-gap players where appropriate.

How "may not" it have been a dumb signing?

$4 million for a guy who didn't make it through two games?

 

[Stash]

Not opposed-- but not excited. We have a lot of young DBs right now. We need a vet LB or S IMO in order to help stabilize things right now.

I'd like to give Woods his shot.

 

[Idgit]

One would be hard pressed to find many veterans on the roster whose play has improved this season. It's a roster wide problem.

What's going on? It does seem like the offense is getting things together a bit here finally, though the run blocking is still a problem. The tackling and the LB play on defense has been so much worse. The run defense has been terrible. These aren't areas where the new players should be having such an effect. The whole point of having stability and consistency on defense is to not be in these situations where it's costing you close games.

Part of the problem has been Jaylon. Part has been weak side gap control. But that doesn't explain the issues elsewhere. Things like Brown taking a step back, though, the poor tackling. It's hard to understand where the issues are coming in. I'd like to think that having Hitchens and Lee taking the snaps, and getting Irving back in the DL rotation helps the whole front 7 enough to account for the drop-off, but that's hard to believe it's going to be enough. I do think Chido, Woods, and Lewis all look like the real deal back there and are likely to get better, but we need better S play, too. Woods might give us a bit of that, but somebody else is going to have to step up back there, too. Not sure we have a candidate on the roster to do it.

 

[Idgit]

How "may not" it have been a dumb signing?

$4 million for a guy who didn't make it through two games?

I wasn't necessarily defending the signing. I was saying the question is largely academic.

I'm still not sure he was released for performance reasons, since we're dealing with a multi-game concussion issue. But either way, this signing was about covering the CB position for a year or so while whichever rookies we eventually drafted come up to speed. It saved us from paying more to players we didn't want to keep, fit the bill for what we were looking for at the time, and wasn't a large money commitment. Those objectives get covered whether or not the guy even makes it out of camp, so the fact that he's released in week 5 isn't remarkable.

 

[Stash]

I wasn't necessarily defending the signing. I was saying the question is largely academic.

I'm still not sure he was released for performance reasons, since we're dealing with a multi-game concussion issue. But either way, this signing was about covering the CB position for a year or so while whichever rookies we eventually drafted come up to speed. It saved us from paying more to players we didn't want to keep, fit the bill for what we were looking for at the time, and wasn't a large money commitment. Those objectives get covered whether or not the guy even makes it out of camp, so the fact that he's released in week 5 isn't remarkable.

You tell yourself whatever you need to.

This is a vain attempt to put perfume on a pig.

Don't waste time and effort trying to defend it.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Cowboys fans are funny.
When Dez was torching this guy for touchdowns, fans were criticizing Carroll mercilessly.
When the Cowboys signed him, you'd have thought we were getting Deion's younger brother.
I was like "Is this the same guy that Cowboys fans were previously calling trash"?
Now that he's gone and no longer a Cowboy, he's gone back to trash.

In fairness I saw NOBODY even remotely compare him to Deion unless it was in jest.

Most people did not like it. I am sure there were some that did but there are some that will like any move.

But let's not make it out like most thought he was a great player and a great signing and that we got a steal or something.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Not seeing the "trust in McClay" posts right now....