Norm makes good point on postgame show

[DemonBlood]

I say it all the time. I call it like I see it. Romo isn't that good and a good QB like Eli will find the open holes. If Steve Smith and Mario Manningham can produce like Fitz and Anquan... we are in trouble.

Romo for whatever cant make the easy throws and hit his guys in stride. He escapabilty makes him look better than he really is. He did the same thing last year (missing guys in stride) and once again is costing the team. Point the finger at him and soft coverage.

 

[sk0aL]

Larry Brown said it best last year after that debacle against the Rams:

"The Dallas Cowboys are a talented football team, but there's a big difference between being a talented football team and a good football team. The Cowboys are not a good football team."

This Cowboys team has more talent on its roster than 75% of the league, but their inability to dig deep, stop making stupid mistakes, and execute is what keeps them from being a good team.

 

[Monster Heel]

I dread to think what's going to happen when this team starts bottoming out talent wise...and it's coming. There are holes everywhere and the drafts are failing to fill them.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I said it and had to don one of these suits.

Let's see how you fare.

So did Emmitt. Don't feel bad. What would he know?

 

[RoadRunner]

I think the talent is there, its just that this team can't get out of its own way. Always the same story with critical timing on penalties that kill drives or reverse turnovers, our own turnovers come in rashes, and seem to come when we have the momentum our way. Add to that an unlucky streak to this team, I swear the football gods must get a chuckle out of creating new ways for Dallas to get screwed on random crap. Take the hacky sack interception. Unbelievable.

This team needs a staff of drill sergeants constantly riding them. Wade will never be a drill sergeant, doesn't make them hit in practice even after 2008's full year of piss poor tackling, and the result is? Another season already off to a piss poor tackling start.

Also, the players have to get some blame here too, because they have been making these same pattern of stupid, ******* mistakes for over a season now. These players at some point have to man up, and if they can't man up they need to be shown the door.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I think the talent is there, its just that this team can't get out of its own way. Always the same story with critical timing on penalties that kill drives or reverse turnovers, our own turnovers come in rashes, and seem to come when we have the momentum our way. Add to that an unlucky streak to this team, I swear the football gods must get a chuckle out of creating new ways for Dallas to get screwed on random crap. Take the hacky sack interception. Unbelievable.

This team needs a staff of drill sergeants constantly riding them. Wade will never be a drill sergeant, doesn't make them hit in practice even after 2008's full year of piss poor tackling, and the result is? Another season already off to a piss poor tackling start.

Also, the players have to get some blame here too, because they have been making these same pattern of stupid, ******* mistakes for over a season now. These players at some point have to man up, and if they can't man up they need to be shown the door.

The problem is there are no repercussions with this HC and GM. None.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Basically said that the hardest thing for fans to admit/realize is that their team just isn't that good.

I think that's where we are as a franchise. All that talk of us being so "talented" is a such of BS. I feel like this team just doesn't have that killer instinct you need to win big games like tonight. We don't have enough impact players on defense, our QB turns the ball over at the worst times, and bad coaching usually catches up to us.

Norm also said that fans want to make excuses and nit pick on the little things, but don't want to admit that their team just isn't good.

The Dallas Cowboys are not a good football team. You can blame the penalties, turnovers, the QB, offensive coordinator, head coach/defensive coordinator, owner/GM, secondary, pass rush, WR's; but the bottom line is we're a mediocre team that will probably finish 8-8.

I agree with some of that, but not all. It's true the team doesnt have the killer instinct. I said it once, and I will say it again, till this team tackles in traning camp, is ready to strap it on when time comes, this team wont step forward. That goes back to your head coach and jerry jones.

For example swapping cornerbacks to play every other game is stupid and dumb. That lies at the door of wade and jerry jones

Just look at the way scandrick tackled last night, or the way newman played. Was the worst game ever newman played.

We dont have a elite number one wr, I said it and I will say it again. Now, that goes to what norm said, this team isnt as good. That is true with the cowboys not having an elite number one wr. What else does the team need, another pass rusher, since greg ellis is gone, obviously spencer isnt getting it done on pass rush with ratliff and ware getting double teamed most of the time. Thats another mistake by wade and jerry jones, letting greg go, now did he need to go yes, but you should have had a player ready to step up. Where else do we have lack of talent, besides wr, an elite stud offensive linemen. That is what this team is lacking as far as lack of talent, a elite impact WR number one, *roy williams is a # 2 wr) a pass rushing player besides ware and ratliff, and an elite offensive linemen like a erik williams or a larry allen.

On play calling, first week we had problems on defense due to poor run defense, this week its lack of pass rush in blitz defense, etc. That goes back to the head coach, probably was my fault, i didnt blitz enough in preseason and training camp because i didnt want to get players hurt. Another stupid mistake by a head coach that is suppose to be a great coach in his eyes. Look at ryans defense with the jets. He is a new head coach, they did mulitple blitzing etc, sacked brady and harrased him all day. But no, I dontwant to hurt the players in training camp, so we dont run the things on defense that we need to run. Scandrick isnt given opportunities to tackle in practice to correct his mistakes and it showed last night.

Mistakes went on and on last night, poor throwing by romo, dumb mistake again by flozell, I hope he seriously gets fined by the NFL againg, this time to the tune of 50 thousand dollars, or some big price to wake his stupid mistake prone rear end into reality and play football like he is suppose to.

Sloppy playing last night of newman.

This team does have talent, we beat ourselves last night. How many points did the giants get off of turnovers last night?

there is your answer, dumb mistakes and turnovers.

 

[the playmaker]

What Dallas needs it some real corners a Free Safety and someone opposite of ware that can provide Pressure. Spencer is a joke and if He doesnt show anything put Octavin or someone else in there. Talk about a bust. Scandrick showed He is no better then Jenkins...Someone needs to step up.

On Offense we are in good shape..We jsut need romo not to make stupid mistakes and errant throws and turnovers.

3 int. + 1 fumble= 24 points...33-24= 9 points off giants
attack.....would be an easy victory: no scandrick, no WP, Spencer..not blame anyone.
Romo sucks and he can't play like an NFLE player

 

[cowboyjoe]

I dread to think what's going to happen when this team starts bottoming out talent wise...and it's coming. There are holes everywhere and the drafts are failing to fill them.

disagree with that, its the coaching, getting the players ready to play;

look at rex ryans defense, a new defense for the jets, yet, they had mulitple blitzing, package on defense, they sacked and harrased brady all day long.

What did our star head coach do on defense and say. oh its probably my fault, i didnt blitz and use our packages, because i didnt want to get players hurt, i should have done that more, but i stayed in our base defense too much.

so we had a poor run defense first game, then 2nd game lack of pass rush, because we cant blitz too much because the players didnt practice it enough.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

If Dallas isn't that good, what are the Giants? Aren't they supposed to be the class of the NFC? And they needed +4 on turnover margin and a last-second field goal to win.

Who is the class of the AFC? The Patriots? The Steelers? The teams that lost to the Jets and Bears?

We need a little perspective up in here.

Do you realize just how many injured players the Giants have?

At some point, losing those key players along with Justin Tuck is going to have an effect.

I agree with what Tony Dungy said, he stated that his game shouldn't have even been close but, even with injuries, the Giants managed to keep the game close and win.

The Giants are also 2-0 in the Division.

However, I still don't buy that the Cowboys are a 9-7 football team. I think we are better than that.

Unfortunately, the next few games are against bad opponents so it may give the team a false sense of security.

 

[BIGDen]

No doubt Romo and our D played like crap. But if balls aren't bouncing off of feet and hands right into Giants, the outcome is different. We did plenty of things to lose (turnovers and horrible pass D), but we also did plenty of things to win (Great running game, pass protection and and run D). If you think a team that lost the turnover battle 4-0 and was still a play away from winning against the Giants (who most feel are an elite team) is so bad then you're just reacting emotionally. I'm sickened by this loss, but there are no elite teams in football right now. Saints offense looks awesome and some defenses look great, but there are no great teams.
The Cards were 9-7 and got destroyed in numerous games last year. They were a play away from a ring.
It's a marathon, not a sprint fellas. Romo rarely plays that poorly. This team will likely not lose the turnover battle 4-0 again this year. The O-line and D-line played well. Special teams have clearly improved (despite Felix's sloppy fumble). I'm not looking thorugh rose-colored glasses or being delusional. I see the warts. But it's early. Stay healthy and improve. That's the key. Maybe next time we play them, the ball bounces off their foot into our hands. Just keep working and get into the postseason. Then anything can happen in this league of parity.

I feel like crap, but it's way too early to get too down.

 

[dstew60105]

Norm may be correct but he chose tonight as his example?

We lost this game because we aren't that good?

Also I don't think any scout or GM would say the Cowboys aren't loaded with Talent.

Thats why guys like Chris Canty get looked as average around here but when they hit free agency they get payed top dollar because of their high talent.

I don't see how anyone could argue Dallas not being talented unless they are just blind.

We may be average, but itf that's the case what are the Giants? Many pick them to go to the Super Bowl and w/o our turnovers(led to 27 points) what would the score have been? Hey, even Green Bay, every ones darling lost at home to Cincinnati.

 

[alancdc]

Basically said that the hardest thing for fans to admit/realize is that their team just isn't that good.

I think that's where we are as a franchise. All that talk of us being so "talented" is a such of BS. I feel like this team just doesn't have that killer instinct you need to win big games like tonight. We don't have enough impact players on defense, our QB turns the ball over at the worst times, and bad coaching usually catches up to us.

Norm also said that fans want to make excuses and nit pick on the little things, but don't want to admit that their team just isn't good.

The Dallas Cowboys are not a good football team. You can blame the penalties, turnovers, the QB, offensive coordinator, head coach/defensive coordinator, owner/GM, secondary, pass rush, WR's; but the bottom line is we're a mediocre team that will probably finish 8-8.

After watching the games the past 2 weeks I don't know who is good? Seems to me, for example, GB, NE, PIT, Ten, there are a lot of teams in this league that can be beaten each week if they do not come to play.

 

[adbutcher]

If Dallas isn't that good, what are the Giants? Aren't they supposed to be the class of the NFC? And they needed +4 on turnover margin and a last-second field goal to win.

Who is the class of the AFC? The Patriots? The Steelers? The teams that lost to the Jets and Bears?

We need a little perspective up in here.

Perspective is not our strong suit, hyperbole is what we like. The bottomline, we shot ourselves in the foot and Romo had the gun and the gun was loaded with badluck bullets.

How we respond after this loss will be more telling then the actual loss. We wanted and beg for a team without TO now we have it and now it is time for the team to rise to the occasion.

 

[Pokes12]

Wrong!!!

Princess Di and a rookie (Manningham) and a never was (Smith) ran all over the field on us. We got no sacks, no turnovers and no stops when we needed them. Our coach is a fat slob dope and the quarterback is heartless or brainless, can't tell yet!!!

 

[Apollo Creed]

Attitude reflects leadership, sir

 

[dbair1967]

We may be average, but itf that's the case what are the Giants? Many pick them to go to the Super Bowl and w/o our turnovers(led to 27 points) what would the score have been? Hey, even Green Bay, every ones darling lost at home to Cincinnati.

If the Giants were as healthy as we were, that'd be the case.

But they had alot of key guys injured, came into the ultimate hostile road atmosphere where the fans and players should have been geeked up beyond belief, and still found a way to win.

They are CLEARLY the favorite in this division. Especially once they get everybody back.

 

[DemonBlood]

Attitude reflects leadership, sir

How do you explain the Parcells days then?

 

[Maikeru-sama]

How do you explain the Parcells days then?

Parcells never had a team with this much talent and he only had Tony Romo for half a season.

 

[DemonBlood]

Parcells never had a team with this much talent and he only had Tony Romo for half a season.

Yet the problems that plagued his teams are the same problems we are still having now.