Now you all see why blaming Dak's contract was foolish, right?

[CowboyFrog]

But of course there's no defending FO. Very little defending of coaches.

I still expect Dallas Cowboys players to play with urgency and excellence. We have "the system"...and we have some of the best to ever play football...in the general sense of life.

true but look at Ware, for him to become a winner he had to leave this disfunctional family, regular season stats were great buit there were games when he like Parsons seemed to fade away when the lights where bright...Dak is just the current easy target this FO has produced, he is far from alone as they have no winners in 29 years. Again im not saying your wrong or right, i do believe that there is no factual way to argue players who play for this FO..its only do you like them or do you not...

 

[kskboys]

true but look at Ware, for him to become a winner he had to leave this disfunctional family, regular season stats were great buit there were games when he like Parsons seemed to fade away when the lights where bright...Dak is just the current easy target this FO has produced, he is far from alone as they have no winners in 29 years. Again im not saying your wrong or right, i do believe that there is no factual way to argue players who play for this FO..its only do you like them or do you not...

That's media crapp. Ware never faded. I cannot believe how many people took the crapp about Ware and believed it. Gullible. Ware is a top 10 all time edge rusher.

Ware and Dak are not in the same conversation.

 

[kskboys]

Well, honestly, fair enough. I will say the whole "I don't play for money" then getting the max deal rubbed me wrong. I don't like speaking to another man's wallet but definitely thought he should have voluntarily taken a bit less to help the team, especially after saying that and given his current track record.

Correct. He flat out lied.

 

[kskboys]

A a football fan I find it hard to believe you do not understand the effects that turnovers and 3 and outs have on a defense. So I believe you are being deliberately obtuse in order to maintain your point

Look what happened against the 7 seed last year all based upon the performance of Dak. Yet obtuse people want to blame the defense because of a stat . . . The scoreboard. That result wasn't caused by the Coach, offense or the defense, all the blame goes on one man . . . Dak

Yet obtuse people can claim a win because of the final stats. Dak's were impressive. Only a Robot or purposely obtuse person would be purposely blind

Then Jerry do what Jerry do and broke the bank paying on an inept QB and here we are listening to your arguments as to why Dak is not to blame

People blame Jerry for paying the contract but lets not forget how much Jerry has embraced Analytics. You know, the echo from the internet. So I include those Dak huggers for all those posts the last 9 years.

If you were all speaking and posting the truth instead of making every excuse to defend him. The analytics would have told Jerry to cut the anchor loose

Oh, and here are Dak's stats for the 1st half: 87 passing yds/1 TD/2 INTs. One was a pick 6.

And what did Dak say after the game? "I was terrible tonight."

Those volume passing yards after the game was already decided mean absolutely nothing.

 

[CowboyFrog]

That's media crapp. Ware never faded. I cannot believe how many people took the crapp about Ware and believed it. Gullible. Ware is a top 10 all time edge rusher.

Ware and Dak are not in the same conversation.

again truth is only for the players you like or dont like....some like Romo some like Dak...neither has any facts to back up one being better than the other...Ware has not had better seasons than Micah yet Micah is part of a bad culture but Ware is amazing....

 

[NotForLong]

Oh, and here are Dak's stats for the 1st half: 87 passing yds/1 TD/2 INTs. One was a pick 6.

And what did Dak say after the game? "I was terrible tonight."

Those volume passing yards after the game was already decided mean absolutely nothing.

It is the story of Dak's carer.

 

[kumizi]

I think the OP is 100% right.

I was always a Romo over Dak guy. I am still a guy that doesn't think you can win the SB with Dak. I think Dak and his agent got every single penny from the Cowboys instead of leaving some on the table for the rest of the team. All that to say I'm not one of the Dak stans.

Even with all that said, it has become transparent that Jerry and Stephen gave him that big contract so they can turn around and tell fans they can't afford to spend in free agency. Any shortcomings with the team can now be blamed on the Dak contract. Multiple Cowboys reporters have shown that the Cowboys could go out there and get free agents like the Eagles if they wanted to. If Schottenheimer fails like we all expect, it can be blamed on Dak wanting the guy.

The Jones are not interested in winning. It has become clear to anyone paying attention. They want to distract the fans and give them someone else to blame.

 

[5Stars]

I think the OP is 100% right.

I was always a Romo over Dak guy. I am still a guy that doesn't think you can win the SB with Dak. I think Dak and his agent got every single penny from the Cowboys instead of leaving some on the table for the rest of the team. All that to say I'm not one of the Dak stans.

Even with all that said, it has become transparent that Jerry and Stephen gave him that big contract so they can turn around and tell fans they can't afford to spend in free agency. Any shortcomings with the team can now be blamed on the Dak contract. Multiple Cowboys reporters have shown that the Cowboys could go out there and get free agents like the Eagles if they wanted to. If Schottenheimer fails like we all expect, it can be blamed on Dak wanting the guy.

The Jones are not interested in winning. It has become clear to anyone paying attention. They want to distract the fans and give them someone else to blame.

Good for you. I'm glad you did not get infected like they are.

 

[nate dizzle]

Correct. He flat out lied.

Factor in that due to the absence of state tax, he didn't even need to get as much as he did to still be taking home more than any other QB, so in reality he was greedier than we even thought.

 

[dragon_mikal]

Factor in that due to the absence of state tax, he didn't even need to get as much as he did to still be taking home more than any other QB, so in reality he was greedier than we even thought.

That’s not how it works. Athletes pay taxes based on where they play each week not based on where they live or where the team is located. If they play a game in NY they pay NY state tax just like if they play in Texas they pay no state tax at all.

So how many times they have to file and how much they pay will change from week to week and year to year.

 

[CowboyFrog]

That’s not how it works. Athletes pay taxes based on where they play each week not based on where they live or where the team is located. If they play a game in NY they pay NY state tax just like if they play in Texas they pay no state tax at all.

So how many times they have to file and how much they pay will change from week to week and year to year.

i just looked this up and thats correct..crazy

 

[nate dizzle]

That’s not how it works. Athletes pay taxes based on where they play each week not based on where they live or where the team is located. If they play a game in NY they pay NY state tax just like if they play in Texas they pay no state tax at all.

So how many times they have to file and how much they pay will change from week to week and year to year.

I'm aware of this, ...he plays half his games in TX without any state taxes

 

[nate dizzle]

i just looked this up and thats correct..crazy

Yep, did taxes for a few professional baseball players. Absolute nightmare.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Yep, did taxes for a few professional baseball players. Absolute nightmare.

i bet taxes can be brutal with a half normal job. This wouold be brain numbing

 

[5Stars]

i bet taxes can be brutal with a half normal job. This wouold be brain numbing

What do you mean by this? Haven't you ever had a normal job and had to pay taxes?

 

[nightrain]

The Jones idiots were cheap even when Dak was on his rookie deal.

The Jones idiots have been cheap with outside free agents for YEARS.

The Jones idiots are cheap EVEN WITH COACHES, and there is no salary cap for coach contracts.

They paid Dak. Big whoop. They waited until the start of the season to pay him, BY DESIGN, so that they wouldn't have to spend another dime last offseason aside from CeeDee's deal.

They're a cheap and useless ownership group. Fans who blamed Dak or Dak's contract were essentially letting the Jones idiots off the hook for their lack of FA signings. Don't do that.

Many other teams paid their QB $50M+, and none of them were even close to as cheap as the Cowboys with outside free agents.

Jalen Hurts signed for $51M/year. The Eagles are ALSO paying AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, Dallas Goedert and *drumroll please* Saquon Barkley. They also have maybe the best OL and best defense in the NFL.

But Dak and CeeDee are supposed to win big, all on their own, because they're the "highest paid" at their positions? Bull****.

SELL THE TEAM!!!!!!!!

Dak's contract is a significant symptom of Jones' stupidity.

 

[kskboys]

again truth is only for the players you like or dont like....some like Romo some like Dak...neither has any facts to back up one being better than the other...Ware has not had better seasons than Micah yet Micah is part of a bad culture but Ware is amazing....

You're making the mistake of thinking everyone thinks alike.

Yes, Ware has had better seasons than Micah. Both are studs. You keep bringing up the word "facts" but then spew nonsense.

 

[Flamma]

The Jones idiots were cheap even when Dak was on his rookie deal.

The Jones idiots have been cheap with outside free agents for YEARS.

I'm late to the party in this thread. But you are spot on here. The QB on the Dallas Cowboys would be stupid to take anything less than top market value. This is not even debatable. You may not be paying attention and want to argue that Dak is greedy. But if you closely follow the Cowboys offseason SOP you can't come to any other conclusion. Dak could be paid in chewing gum, and their standard operating procedure doesn't change. We've seen this when Dak was a rookie. There's no arguing this point.

 

[kskboys]

I'm late to the party in this thread. But you are spot on here. The QB on the Dallas Cowboys would be stupid to take anything less than top market value. This is not even debatable. You may not be paying attention and want to argue that Dak is greedy. But if you closely follow the Cowboys offseason SOP you can't come to any other conclusion. Dak could be paid in chewing gum, and their standard operating procedure doesn't change. We've seen this when Dak was a rookie. There's no arguing this point.

I only care about Dak's contract in regards to being able to win. I couldn't care less about his personal finances. If you agree that Dak should fight for top of the market value(More like over), then you aren't interested in winning. There's no arguing this point.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I only care about Dak's contract in regards to being able to win. I couldn't care less about his personal finances. If you agree that Dak should fight for top of the market value(More like over), then you aren't interested in winning. There's no arguing this point.

Owners collectively decide what players will be paid. The players may only indicate how much they want to be paid. Jerry Jones decided what Dak Prescott was worth to the Cowboys. Dak would have had to sell his services to another team if he felt Jerry wouldn’t pay him what he felt was appropriate. Dak agreed to Jerry’s offer. Player compensation is Jerry’s call, not Dak’s.