Now you all see why blaming Dak's contract was foolish, right?

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Owners collectively decide what players will be paid. The players may only indicate how much they want to be paid. Jerry Jones decided what Dak Prescott was worth to the Cowboys. Dak would have had to sell his services to another team if he felt Jerry wouldn’t pay him what he felt was appropriate. Dak agreed to Jerry’s offer. Player compensation is Jerry’s call, not Dak’s.
Dak held out for top dollar. A lot of it is on him. He also agreed to a contract verbally the year before he signed the 40 mil one, and then renegged.

Jerry was stupid to pay him that much. This is most obviously on both of them.
 

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I only care about Dak's contract in regards to being able to win. I couldn't care less about his personal finances. If you agree that Dak should fight for top of the market value(More like over), then you aren't interested in winning. There's no arguing this point.
Here's the thing. The Cowboys front office doesn't act any differently regardless of Dak's contract. Their offseason is no different if Dak is being paid 1 dollar a year, or 60 million a year. We don't have Howie Roseman. We have Jerry Jones. He don't care about winning. Dak's contract does not limit the Cowboys. If Dak was paid nothing, the Jones boys change nothing.
 

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Here's the thing. The Cowboys front office doesn't act any differently regardless of Dak's contract. Their offseason is no different if Dak is being paid 1 dollar a year, or 60 million a year. We don't have Howie Roseman. We have Jerry Jones. He don't care about winning. Dak's contract does not limit the Cowboys. If Dak was paid nothing, the Jones boys change nothing.
Dak's does limit the Cowboys. There is simply no way that it doesn't.

The Jones boys are idiots, no doubt. Doesn't make Dak's contract not limiting.
 

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Dak's does limit the Cowboys. There is simply no way that it doesn't.

The Jones boys are idiots, no doubt. Doesn't make Dak's contract not limiting.
It only limits how many of their own players they can pay. Having too many good players is not a problem Dallas has.
 

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It only limits how many of their own players they can pay. Having too many good players is not a problem Dallas has.
No, it limits how many FA's they can sign also. If an OL goes down, we typically don't have even a decent backup there because we've overpaid the skill positions.
 

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No, it limits how many FA's they can sign also. If an OL goes down, we typically don't have even a decent backup there because we've overpaid the skill positions.
The Cowboys don't pay for high priced free agents. Bottom line is, for what the Cowboys do, they don't need the extra money. They didn't do anything differently when Dak was on a rookie contract. If we need an OL, they'll get pick someone up cheap.

They're not going to do much about Dak's cap hit because they don't need to. It's not how they run the offseason. They might open up a little space, but only to do what they usually do. Nothing more. They don't believe in the Howie Roseman approach. In fact, the opposite is how they operate.
 

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Neither of which played/ coached like they were top 3 in the playoffs, it wasnt just Dak.

Kellen has learned alot and got better at situational football since he was here.
anyone who believe Kellen just all the sudden became Andy reid is fooling themselves.Perhaps hes better I havent paid close attention but Kellen went to the ideal spot. Incredible offensive line , great defense and defensive coordinator. talent at WR talent at RB talent at TE and jalen is talented at QB. These idiot cowboy fans and there are plenty in here that believe championships are tied to the QB are just that very uninformed and have a narrative that they are too stubborn to pass on.

championships are won by good TEAMS and they typically are stacked at all 3 phases along with good coaching. Can a QB contributed to downfalls sure they can but rarely do they do it on their own. I cant think of a cowboy team since the 90's teams that had it in all phases along with coaching.

Neither Dak or Romo were good enough to overcome the front office blunders. Now that said all cowboy fans should be concerned with Dak and his lower extremity injuries they are building up and if the cowboys cannot run the ball consistently good and stop the run this problem will continue to fester itself.

They wont draft a QB this year as they have too many needs but if i were them Id be looking because we are really looking at 2015 Romo era with this team. Dak has reached that level of injury concern its just in his legs and not his back.
 

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The Cowboys don't pay for high priced free agents. Bottom line is, for what the Cowboys do, they don't need the extra money. They didn't do anything differently when Dak was on a rookie contract. If we need an OL, they'll get pick someone up cheap.

They're not going to do much about Dak's cap hit because they don't need to. It's not how they run the offseason. They might open up a little space, but only to do what they usually do. Nothing more. They don't believe in the Howie Roseman approach. In fact, the opposite is how they operate.
Jerry is the bigger problem, of that there is no doubt. Because Jerry is the bigger problem, it does not follow that Dak's contract is not a problem.
 

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Jerry is the bigger problem, of that there is no doubt. Because Jerry is the bigger problem, it does not follow that Dak's contract is not a problem.
I think he is saying if it wasn't Dak, it would be another player. It's the contract and the way Jerry does things you can insert any player. In this case, it's Dak, but who could blame him? Hell, Jerry could have made Dak the highest-paid QB with a $56M contract but he was too lazy to fight Dak and/or find a replacement. So he, instead, took the easy route and gave Dak exactly what he wanted. I'm 100% confident Dak knows he isn't worth $60M, but if you are going to give it to me, I'll gladly take it. Honestly, this is why I have lost some respect for him. Don't get me wrong, I'm for players getting their bag, but let's balance that with building a winning team. Dak was strictly business, winning be damned, and he's paying a bit of a price coz you sense he's lost some respect around the league.
 

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I think he is saying if it wasn't Dak, it would be another player. It's the contract and the way Jerry does things you can insert any player. In this case, it's Dak, but who could blame him? Hell, Jerry could have made Dak the highest-paid QB with a $56M contract but he was too lazy to fight Dak and/or find a replacement. So he, instead, took the easy route and gave Dak exactly what he wanted. I'm 100% confident Dak knows he isn't worth $60M, but if you are going to give it to me, I'll gladly take it. Honestly, this is why I have lost some respect for him. Don't get me wrong, I'm for players getting their bag, but let's balance that with building a winning team. Dak was strictly business, winning be damned, and he's paying a bit of a price coz you sense he's lost some respect around the league.
I do not blame Dak at all. If I were him, I'd want out of this mess, and I'd take less to do it.

Dak is doing the opposite, and I do respect that. He knows that Jerry makes this org an olio, so he insists on top pay to stay here. I understand.

Now, that doesn't mean Dak's contract isn't a problem. It is, and a huge one. Yes, Jerry is THE problem. Dak's contract makes it certain that we will win around 6-9 games for the next 3 seasons. Could go lower if Dak gets injured.

This is what Jerry does, finds a player who can win some games, albeit not a great player, then overpays him so Jerry can play w/ his toy while still winning enough games to stay relevant. He did it to Ware, he did it to Romo, and now he's doing it to both Dak and Parsons.

Jerry paid Dak strictly because Dak will keep the money train going, winning enough to be in contention for the playoffs. That is the only reason he paid him. And shows that Jerry is absolutely not interested in super bowls.
 

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Jerry is the bigger problem, of that there is no doubt. Because Jerry is the bigger problem, it does not follow that Dak's contract is not a problem.
I should have been more specific. Dak's contract is not a problem to Jerry.
 

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I should have been more specific. Dak's contract is not a problem to Jerry.
Now that is true, as Jerry can remain pseudo competitive w/ paying Dak that much. That's all he wants, win enough to keep attention on him and the Cowboys.
 
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