Now you all see why blaming Dak's contract was foolish, right?

Nav22

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I did know that. It's not just about 2024. As it stands now Daks cap hit next season is almost 90 million. They will kick the can down the road but even then his cap hit will be over 50 million next season. They will pay for Daks contract years after he is gone.
They were not cheap with Daks contract just stupid. They did wait too long, but at that point they should have let him hit the market. No other team would have given him that contract. They could have signed him cheaper or let him go. He is going to be 32, injury prone, cant run, cant stay healthy.
And even if they DID let him walk like you wanted?

And even if they drafted a rookie QB who was GREAT?

They'd STILL be cheap during that QB's rookie contract, just like they were when that QB was Dak. So we STILL wouldn't be serious contenders.

Blaming Dak is absurd. It's Jerry and Stephen.
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And even if they DID let him walk like you wanted?

And even if they drafted a rookie QB who was GREAT?

They'd STILL be cheap during that QB's rookie contract. So we STILL wouldn't be serious contenders.

Blaming Dak is absurd. It's Jerry and Stephen.
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Yes, I said that the Cowboys aren't going anywhere with the Jones boys running the team. The coaches, players, culture is from the Jones boys.
Who is blaming Dak. I blame Jerry and his son. They are the ones in charge. The players and coaches are there because of them.
 

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And even if they DID let him walk like you wanted?

And even if they drafted a rookie QB who was GREAT?

They'd STILL be cheap during that QB's rookie contract, just like they were when that QB was Dak. So we STILL wouldn't be serious contenders.

Blaming Dak is absurd. It's Jerry and Stephen.
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Even if they were cheap they would still likely spend around the same amount of money though. They still have to spend 90% of the cap over a three year period regardless of having a QB contract on the books or not.
 

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The Jones idiots were cheap even when Dak was on his rookie deal.

The Jones idiots have been cheap with outside free agents for YEARS.

The Jones idiots are cheap EVEN WITH COACHES, and there is no salary cap for coach contracts.

They paid Dak. Big whoop. They waited until the start of the season to pay him, BY DESIGN, so that they wouldn't have to spend another dime last offseason aside from CeeDee's deal.

They're a cheap and useless ownership group. Fans who blamed Dak or Dak's contract were essentially letting the Jones idiots off the hook for their lack of FA signings. Don't do that.

Many other teams paid their QB $50M+, and none of them were even close to as cheap as the Cowboys with outside free agents.

Jalen Hurts signed for $51M/year. The Eagles are ALSO paying AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, Dallas Goedert and *drumroll please* Saquon Barkley. They also have maybe the best OL and best defense in the NFL.

But Dak and CeeDee are supposed to win big, all on their own, because they're the "highest paid" at their positions? Bull****.

SELL THE TEAM!!!!!!!!


No, Dak's contract is a big part of the reason we're not going anywhere.
 

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The Jones idiots were cheap even when Dak was on his rookie deal.

The Jones idiots have been cheap with outside free agents for YEARS.

The Jones idiots are cheap EVEN WITH COACHES, and there is no salary cap for coach contracts.

They paid Dak. Big whoop. They waited until the start of the season to pay him, BY DESIGN, so that they wouldn't have to spend another dime last offseason aside from CeeDee's deal.

They're a cheap and useless ownership group. Fans who blamed Dak or Dak's contract were essentially letting the Jones idiots off the hook for their lack of FA signings. Don't do that.

Many other teams paid their QB $50M+, and none of them were even close to as cheap as the Cowboys with outside free agents.

Jalen Hurts signed for $51M/year. The Eagles are ALSO paying AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, Dallas Goedert and *drumroll please* Saquon Barkley. They also have maybe the best OL and best defense in the NFL.

But Dak and CeeDee are supposed to win big, all on their own, because they're the "highest paid" at their positions? Bull****.

SELL THE TEAM!!!!!!!!


Stephen is an idiot.

Plain and simple.
 

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LMAO!!
Man you got to hand it to the Dak knee pad team !! Which CMAC is head cheerleader of .

The reason we hired a Cheap Unskilled HC was because of DAK !!

HELLO!!!

DAk is a mental midget who can't read a D much less learn a new O in year 10 .

U can't make up the stupidity of this poster who always Defends Dak even when he craps the bed time and time again .

Chalk this down as the dumbest take on this board .


Dak is the ONLY reason This donkey of a HC got the job .

SMFH
Whoa HonouluCowboy.......calling me out because other people are explaining logic?......C'mon HonoluluCowboy.....I'm sorry I'm not in your club of riding someone else pockets because you have motives. If you can't see that the Owner/GM has been ruining this franchise and has you hoodwinked, I don't know what to tell you with the hate you have bottled up.
 

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And even if they DID let him walk like you wanted?

And even if they drafted a rookie QB who was GREAT?

They'd STILL be cheap during that QB's rookie contract, just like they were when that QB was Dak. So we STILL wouldn't be serious contenders.

Blaming Dak is absurd. It's Jerry and Stephen.
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If you don't think paying one player 89 mil w/ a 252 mil salary cap affects winning, then you really need to take up a different sport, maybe reading.
 

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No, Dak's contract is a big part of the reason we're not going anywhere.
And whose fault was it when Dak was on his cheap rookie deal?

Why were the Jones idiots cheap even then???

DURRRR WHAT DO COMMON DENOMINATOR MEAN??
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Dak and jalen are on the same level. I have no patience debating anybody thinking otherwise. Jalen has a top 3 oline, top 3 rb and top 3 defense. Just............nevermind
And when Dak had a top OL, a top 5-10 RB, multiple threats at WR/TE, he still didn’t get the job done. He’s far from the only problem in Dallas, but he’s still garbage.
 

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The Cowboys could've spent $0 or $1000000 in free agency and Dak's contract would still be the 2nd worst contract in NFL history, only behind Deshaun Watson.

Dak is also a major reason a career loser coordinator like Brian Schottenheimer is the head coach right now. Because he values comfort and continually over accountability.

Dak got what he wanted and his fans (the very few left) have another excuse for his failures.

Dak Prescott is Jerry Jones in player form. He is about about nothing else but Dak Prescott.
I agree most of the statements about dak , valuing comfort and money over accountability and championship , but cant figure out Jerry / Stephen for paying him that much .
 

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What your theory Einstein?
First let me know if you are a Dak stain before I waste my time with you.
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If you think Dak was worthy of that contract then don’t even bother responding.
I know where your empty head is at!
Not only is he a DakiPooStan , but hes part of the Knee pad club as well . Paid simpletons who troll the site to argue every Dak post. Its too obvious by now
 

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I mean you can restructure it but dak currently is slated to count $89m against the cap. Even if you do restructure it you still have to take all $290m worth of cap hits for Daks contract still.

I’m not sure the issue with his post?
He isn't getting paid $89M.

His cap hit won't be $89M on a $252M salary cap.

Other than those inconvenient truths, sure, no issues!
 

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He isn't getting paid $89M.

His cap hit won't be $89M on a $252M salary cap.

Other than those inconvenient truths, sure, no issues!
He will get paid around $47m and carries $290m in cap hits from now and the end of his contract.

I certainly hope they don’t choose to restructure him or else you’ll be paying off his cap hits after he’s gone and you’re trying to take advantage of that rookie qb deal.
 

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The post I was quoting justified paying Dak 60 million because Jalen makes 51 million.

Jalen just won his 2nd NFCCG in 3 years and he makes 51 APY. Dak has won 2 WC games in 10 years. Dak is overpaid.

I could care less about how much Kelly, Marino and whoever else you want to say gets paid what. Jalen and Foles and Dilfer showed up in the playoffs or did enough not to lose. Dak has been the Achilles heal of this team in the playoffs and is paid the most in NFL history. Dak is overpaid.

I agree with you that Dak is overpaid. But Jalen, Dak, or no other quarterback can go anywhere by themselves. This is still a team game. The EAGLES assisted Hurts to those heights. Yes Hurts is a damn good quarterback, but he also plays with a damn good team on both sides of the ball and has a damn good coaching staff.

So it's not Dak vs Hurts. It's what the Eagles have built vs what the Cowboys have built. That's the point I was trying to make.
 

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And when Dak had a top OL, a top 5-10 RB, multiple threats at WR/TE, he still didn’t get the job done. He’s far from the only problem in Dallas, but he’s still garbage.
You left out the defense conveniently. The thing that ultimately wins. I understand man. I understand.

But let's play a game. Who would you like dallas to draft? And don't cop-out and say bpa. Just give me 3 names
 

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I agree with you that Dak is overpaid. But Jalen, Dak, or no other quarterback can go anywhere by themselves. This is still a team game. The EAGLES assisted Hurts to those heights. Yes Hurts is a damn good quarterback, but he also plays with a damn good team on both sides of the ball and has a damn good coaching staff.

So it's not Dak vs Hurts. It's what the Eagles have built vs what the Cowboys have built. That's the point I was trying to make.
I am in complete agreement that it’s not Dak vs Hurts and it’s what the Eagles have built vs what the Cowboys have built. I completely agree with that point.
 

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The Jones idiots were cheap even when Dak was on his rookie deal.

The Jones idiots have been cheap with outside free agents for YEARS.

The Jones idiots are cheap EVEN WITH COACHES, and there is no salary cap for coach contracts.

They paid Dak. Big whoop. They waited until the start of the season to pay him, BY DESIGN, so that they wouldn't have to spend another dime last offseason aside from CeeDee's deal.

They're a cheap and useless ownership group. Fans who blamed Dak or Dak's contract were essentially letting the Jones idiots off the hook for their lack of FA signings. Don't do that.

Many other teams paid their QB $50M+, and none of them were even close to as cheap as the Cowboys with outside free agents.

Jalen Hurts signed for $51M/year. The Eagles are ALSO paying AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, Dallas Goedert and *drumroll please* Saquon Barkley. They also have maybe the best OL and best defense in the NFL.

But Dak and CeeDee are supposed to win big, all on their own, because they're the "highest paid" at their positions? Bull****.

SELL THE TEAM!!!!!!!!


This!
 

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Just wait till after the season. If he repeats his stats and looks like he’s healthy, give him the bag. Not all QB’s age gracefully. Dak is not necessary to winning in future seasons from all appearances. Yes, I agree Jerry/Stephen likely mess up whatever good happens with a young QB. I’m saying that it’s perfectly fine to let a QB contract play out, even without another QB ready to take over. Moves like that just scream-“I’m not comfortable trying to find a capable QB.” It was not a victory for the team to just push forward with the same formula. Just like it does not feel like the team is going for big changes-even with the disappointing season.
depends on your perspective. when you have a guy who had his best statistical season, 2nd in MVP and was top 5 in jersey sales. it makes all kinds of finanical sense to resign him and cash in. (this is not advocating he is good or not, just that look at it from finanical perspective).
if you are actually looking at football stuff, then yeah, its stupid. Jerry cornered himself with Dak and the rest of the QBs on the roster. he got caught being stupid trading for Lance, where rumors were nobody really wanted him. then he hasn't drafted a QB in what? like 5,6, years (I don't count 6th, 7th round picks nothing but tokens, you must invest in some talent to develop, not long shots).

you have to remember, winning championships is not the top priority in dallas. when you fully grasp that and put all football stuff in the back burner, then all the moves make sense.
 

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He has never, not for an instance, played well enough to be paid top of the pyramid money.
So yes, it was always going to be complained about & rightfully so.
was the contract more than anyone expected? absolutely, but actual play doesn't directly relate to QB market. there are now 7 QBs who make 50+M.... 15 that make 40+. 4 years ago 40M was the top contract. its the QB market.

but its also Jerry. he has no real plans. except those that make sense finanically. that's about it. when you see that winning football, actual player evalution are secondary, then it all makes sense.
 

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Someone doesn't know how contracts work with a salary cap that rises every year.

And even if he made $55M rather than $60M, the Jones idiots would've been just as cheap elsewhere.

Your anger is misplaced.
that's the point I have brought up multiple times. all the pundits would have been ok, if he got paid lets say 53M...but the fact is the difference between philly, detroit and cowboys isn't 7M.
 
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