Offense better than you think

[CCBoy]

Either you’re ignoring my point completely or you don’t understand.

Sometimes it’s hard to communicate through writing online.

If we play our perfect game offensively, teams won’t score 35 on us.

It’s that simple.

That doesn’t mean that we will win, it just means we will limit the possessions and not allow as many chunk plays.

No, I put out a maxim of workability and strength when that is accomplished. You didn't realize how strong a statement was made. If the Cowboys are first to 35 points against Washington, they very likely will win.

If one likes checkers better than chess, go for it...but don't theorize about lack of vision or intelligence at the same time.

If one understands chess, he probably can handle checkers as well. Just for insight, many in prison are good at chess...


If Dallas continues at the rate of it's current scoring average per game, and retains a defensive average of 19 points a game...it will win also.

 

[nathanlt]

Sundays performance was good if your name is Zeke. Watching Dak throw for only 200 yards, no TD's is not inspiring confidence they could get the passing game going if need be. Dak is 33rd in passing yards per game. We won inspite of his limitations.

Cole Beasley would disagree about the no touchdowns. He should have caught that!

 

[Jake]

yadda...yadda...yadda So?

You still NOT admitting that the COWBOYS won the past two games? That not current enough for your tastes?

Come on.....yadda, yadda, yadda (full of crap)

Still spewing straw men and sarcasm...yadda, yadda, yadda.

 

[Stash]

It’s pretty simple if Zeke and the defense do not produce this team will more than likely lose a game.

This team will ride the backs of those two components and both will determine the outcome of this season. Garrett and Dak are benefiting from Zeke and the defense.

And both of those components are really killing themselves out there to make up for the passing game shortcomings too. Although he won't get it, Elliott is clearly this team's MVP. He's doing anything and everything he can, and taking a pounding game after game. I've never been a real "Zeke guy", but I can see and appreciate his greatness and his effort all the same. He's been amazing.

 

[CCBoy]

The bias is yours alone. You want to see and hear what you want to, and cherry pick stats and numbers that suit you. Life doesn't work that way.

I gave you the truth. And the actual numbers. If you want to cover your eyes, you go ahead and do that, somewhere else.

And once again, you've escalated things. Don't try to now place blame on me for it.

Nope, bud, you lost all elements of a discussion on football every time that you attempt to down grade view of progress and limit them to your negative view.

Two games and actual directions are convenient for your personally directed target, so you discard them and grasp the troll card. So?

You feature nothing now, but insult. But the Cowboys are still getting a lot better...that I DON'T hide.

You love whipping boys on the net and on the Cowboys...what a cheap thrill fan that turns out to be.

I love watching the Cowboys play now....and YOU are a fan?

 

[CCBoy]

Still spewing straw men and sarcasm...yadda, yadda, yadda.

 

[jwooten15]

Teams won’t score that many points on us if our offense plays the perfect game.

Last night there were 3 defensive touchdowns, 5 or 6 turnovers?

If we string together long drives, convert on 3rd downs, don’t turn the ball over, nobody can beat us if we score 35.

That's the very reason we can't be a serious threat to win a Super Bowl.

The Cowboys offense has to play consistently perfect in order to have a chance. They rely on eating up 7+ minutes per drive and not screwing something up while they're taking 4 yard gain after 4 yard gain. There can't be a holding penalty, there can't be a drop, etc. The QB isn't good enough to get the team over those hurdles.

In the modern-NFL, you have to have quick-strike ability. If you're a threat to go 90 yards in :90, you can overcome a holding penalty or a couple INT.

Sure, the Cowboys can possibly compete with the elites if everything is perfect. But they're one Aaron Donald strip sack away from having no shot at all.

 

[Brooksey]

Lol. Such pathetic comments on several threads. For the past 2 weeks, y'all were saying Garrett, Dak and this team could not beat such high powered teams like the iggles and falcons. Now that the Cowboys destroyed them, here comes more "let's see what they do in 10 days against the Saints?"

Always excuses, instead of accepting, crediting, jumping on board and supporting.

This is what almost 25 years of not reaching a Super Bowl has created in many fans minds. Most (not all) just use pessimism as a way not to be so disappointed anymore, can u blame them?
Most everyone here wants the Cowboy to win

 

[Stash]

Nope, bud, you lost all elements of a discussion on football every time that you attempt to down grade view of progress and limit them to your negative view.

Two games and actual directions are convenient for your personally directed target, so you discard them and grasp the troll card. So?

You feature nothing now, but insult. But the Cowboys are still getting a lot better...that I DON'T hide.

You love whipping boys on the net and on the Cowboys...what a cheap thrill fan that turns out to be.

I showed you actual numbers. The facts. They're just too difficult for you to look or admit that they're true. That's all on you, not me. If the truth is too painful for you, stay off the Internet. That way, nobody can interefere with your fantasy with those pesky facts.

You keep talking about "improvement" and yet have no tangible evidence to show to support this contention? Again, that's on you, not me.

But youre big on projecting everything on "the other guy."

I love watching the Cowboys play now....and YOU are a fan?

A rational fan.

 

[CCBoy]

And both of those components are really killing themselves out there to make up for the passing game shortcomings too. Although he won't get it, Elliott is clearly this team's MVP. He's doing anything and everything he can, and taking a pounding game after game. I've never been a real "Zeke guy", but I can see and appreciate his greatness and his effort all the same. He's been amazing.

Like that is some kind of rocket science. The team stated, in the OFF SEASON, that it focused upon it's STRENGTHS. Running the ball, and improving it's defense. They put their money where their mouth was...

Then, all understood, that would have to be developing. Well, that is currently happening. Quit with the decade long ***** and disbelief, and at least wait until the season has concluded, to continue with the perpetual degrading of a fan attempting to collect actual progress as it is occurring.

What, you are expecting another Roger Staubach or Troy Aikman to relieve your frustrations when Dak Prescott and the receivers are still in the middle of an altered direction in executions?

But Hell yea, they are currently getting better and Dak isn't the bottom belly rubber than he has been drubbed, currently.

 

[Stash]

That's the very reason we can't be a serious threat to win a Super Bowl.

The Cowboys offense has to play consistently perfect in order to have a chance. They rely on eating up 7+ minutes per drive and not screwing something up while they're taking 4 yard gain after 4 yard gain. There can't be a holding penalty, there can't be a drop, etc. The QB isn't good enough to get the team over those hurdles.

In the modern-NFL, you have to have quick-strike ability. If you're a threat to go 90 yards in :90, you can overcome a holding penalty or a couple INT.

Sure, the Cowboys can possibly compete with the elites if everything is perfect. But they're one Aaron Donald strip sack away from having no shot at all.

Even in a losing effort, those Chiefs showed again and again that thy could ivercome adversity. At times, it looked like they were playing against two teams out there, the Rams, and the refs. But despite a bunch of penalties, they still converted and kept drives alive, something this Cowboys team can't hope to do right now. If Dallas gets a holding penalty, they may as well punt right there, because the passing game simply isn't good enough to overcome it the way the better teams easily do.

 

[CCBoy]

I showed you actual numbers. The facts. They're just too difficult for you to look or admit that they're true. That's all on you, not me. If the truth is too painful for you, stay off the Internet. That way, nobody can interefere with your fantasy with those pesky facts.

You keep talking about "improvement" and yet have no tangible evidence to show to support this contention? Again, that's on you, not me.

But youre big on projecting everything on "the other guy."



A rational fan.

Only latch upon a statistic that hides a different view. What, too lazy to look up the referenced stats, huh. You were the tosser of stats to begin win...

yadda, yadda, yadd...and to the burn barrel buddies as well! So?

 

[Stash]

Like that is some kind of rocket science. The team stated, in the OFF SEASON, that it focused upon it's STRENGTHS. Running the ball, and improving it's defense. They put their money where their mouth was...

Then, all understood, that would have to be developing. Well, that is currently happening. Quit with the decade long ***** and disbelief, and at least wait until the season has concluded, to continue with the perpetual degrading of a fan attempting to collect actual progress as it is occurring.

So now we have to "wait until the season is over before assessing the team"?

"OK guys! Turn off the lights! Shut the place down until the season's done! We'll talke about it then!"

What, you are expecting another Roger Staubach or Troy Aikman to relieve your frustrations when Dak Prescott and the receivers are still in the middle of an altered direction in executions?

But Hell yea, they are currently getting better and Dak isn't the bottom belly rubber than he has been drubbed, currently.

I'll post the totals, and the facts, again:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst..._NET_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

Maybe it will actually register this time?

 

[Ken]

Do you also know that it doesn't make "the offense better than you think"? Or do you continue to miss that?

#4 in rushing.

That is better than you think when that is your main goal as an offense. The fact that your defense is really good and just held the #6 offense to 1 td....ya, that is why the offense is better than you think.

 

[Ken]

They'll win much more than the Cowboys do. This year, at least.

We will see.

This is why they play the games.

 

[CyberB0b]

25th in scoring per game
27th in yards per game
24th in 3rd down conversion percentage
19th in time of possession
25th in giveaways

 

[Ranching]

Maybe it’s just frustration because Garrett and/or Dak have clawed their way out of the dumpster, at least temporarily and I get that but I am shocked at this forum the last two days.

Why is there so much hate directed towards our offense after Sunday’s performance?

First let’s break down some numbers...

The Falcons defense, prior to Sunday’s game, was allowing about 28 points a game. We scored 22, even the most pessimistic fan can admit that our offense played good enough for 5 additional points with the Beasley drop and the missed PAT. 27 points puts us on par with what the Falcons typically give up and that number is also in the same ballpark of our 2016 offense.

We were 7/13 on 3rd down which is also a huge improvement. We also did not turn the ball over. Falcons have recorded an interception in 7 of their 9 games before they played us. Obviously we would like to get back to the point where we can trust Dak not to throw interceptions but at this point, we are looking for improvement and 1 over the last 5 games is just that.

Now...I am sure I’ll hear some complaining about check downs and lack of big plays.

I get that...but I also believe the team made a decision to play that way. The only way the Falcons were going to beat us is by throwing the football to their big play receivers. The goal was to control the flow of the game which our offense and especially our defense did well. Duke Johnson and Nick Chubb combined for 7 receptions and 2 scores the week before..once Deion Jones was listed as out, a game plan emphasizing the short passing game seemed like a good option. Even the most brilliant offensive minds would agree to that.

Now I get that there will be a time when we need more than 22 or maybe even 27 points. Most of us thought it would have been against the Falcons. I am making no wild predictions of offensive greatness or fantasy football worthy performances from anyone not named Zeke but that is just not how this offense is designed...maybe you hate it and that’s okay.

My observations from the game were that the offense looked a lot like 2016. The game flowed through Zeke and Dak managed the game. The offense didn’t turn the ball over, concerted 3rd downs and “closed the game” when it came time. The fact is we are a run first team that is playing good defense. This is not an exciting or flashy offense BUT....when they are playing up to their potential and Linehan doesn’t cal the plays like a HS coordinator, they are very efficient and compliment the defense nicely.

I liked your post until you insulted HS coordinators. I don't know where you are from, but in Texas HS coaches are pretty dang good.

 

[conner01]

An antiquated offense like ours can work against mediocre teams like the Eagles or Falcons. Cool.

We go against the Pats, Rams, Chiefs, or Saints... We're gonna get blown out by 20.

This isn't 1993.

A couple three-and-outs and we would quickly be down 14; and at that point, our running game (which is our only hope for scoring points) is rendered obsolete.


Yeah, we scored 22 against the Falcons. Could have scored 27. That means next-to-nothing in the 2018 NFL.

I kinda see the nfl in 3 tiers
Rams, chiefs, saints
Teams that have super offenses
The 500 teams
Teams like us who win half their games because half the league is worse
Then you have the dumpster fire teams that are lucky to win a game or two and are dreaming of draft day already
Talent wise I think this team is closer to the elites than the dumpster fires
Coaching wise I’m not so sure we aren’t closer to the dumpster divers

 

[Stash]

Only latch upon a statistic that hides a different view. What, too lazy to look up the referenced stats, huh. You were the tosser of stats to begin win...

yadda, yadda, yadd...and to the burn barrel buddies as well! So?

If anybody is "lazy" here, it's you. You have yet to support anything you're trying (and failing) to claim.

So now we go back to the cliches like "yada yadda" and "burn barrel" nonsense? Really? Again?

So you've got nothing then?

 

[Ranching]

Lol. Such pathetic comments on several threads. For the past 2 weeks, y'all were saying Garrett, Dak and this team could not beat such high powered teams like the iggles and falcons. Now that the Cowboys destroyed them, here comes more "let's see what they do in 10 days against the Saints?"

Always excuses, instead of accepting, crediting, jumping on board and supporting.

I don't know about, destroy, but we have been playing better. We need to beat the Commanders and continue to show improvement. Consistency is the name of the game, now.