**Official** 53 Man Roster Projection **merged**

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Good List.
What might be entertaining is to take the bottom five on this 53 man roster in terms of expendability and talent for expl (Street, Heath, Swain, McCray, Bishop) to see who we can replace with any effective ST players when cuts begin.
 

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QBs (2) Romo, Weeden
I can't see any reasons to carry either Vaughan or Showers on the 53 at this point.

RBs (4) McFadden, Randle, Dunbar, Clutts
After Randle looked like the better back last week, it was McFadden's turn to show of his burst and speed.

WRs (5) Bryant, Williams, Beasley, Street, Whitehead
Improvements made by Williams and Beasley this offseason should make the passing game more potent. I still believe Whitehead makes the team at this point, but isn't going to be trusted with return duties yet.

TEs (4) Witten, Escobar, Hanna, Swaim
This position benefits from Dallas carrying fewer QBs, although none of the tight ends did much in this game.

OL (9) Smith, Leary, Frederick, Martin, Free, Weems, Bernadeau, Collins, Gibson
I still could see Gibson going on the practice squad, but his improvement in practice and the fact that the team doesn't carry just eight OL that often made me keep him.

DL (11) (Hardy), Mincey, T. Crawford, Hayden, Lawrence, Gregory, T. McClain, J. Crawford, Coleman, Russell, Gardner, Bishop
I'm still going long here although I do think we could stop at 10 with the last spot coming down to T. McClain and Bishop, and go longer at LB.

LBs (6) (R. McClain), Lee, Hitchens, Gachkar, Wilber, Wilson and Smith
Gachkar played very well at the Mike tonight, and Wilber being tried there last week seems to mean Brinkley won't be kept. Smith is a better special teams choice.

DBs (9) Carr, Claiborne, Church, Wilcox, Jones, White, Patmon, Heath, McCray
Claiborne looked like he belonged tonight while Jones looked like he needs a little more seasoning in coverage.

STs (3) Bailey, Ladouceur, Jones
Good to see Jones refind his form from a few seasons ago. It seemed like he got messed up when we brought Bissacia in, but he did some things tonight that reminded me why we were willing to move on from McBriar.

I think you've nailed it.
 

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Edwards has been significantly better than Gardner in the games.

I'm not sure Dallas has a real high opinion of Edwards. I could be wrong, but I don't remember seeing him in games until we get pretty deep into the depth chart. I'd have to go back and look, though.
 

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Roster Projection:

Mark Nzeocha on NFI.
Chaz Green on PUP.
Greg Hardy and Rolando McClain on the suspended list.

OFFENSE (24)

QB (2) - Tony Romo, Brandon Weeden - neither Vaughan nor Showers have shown enough to go long at this position. Practice Squad will be the developing ground for one of them,

RB (3) - Darren McFadden, Joseph Randle, Lance Dunbar - Dunbar returning kicks will add to gameday value.

FB (1) - Tyler Clutts. I could see Clutts' roster spot being a week to week thing.

WR (5) - Dez Bryant, Terrance Williams, Cole Beasley, Devin Street, Lucky Whitehead - Street will make it since he's the second best WR blocker on the team (next to Williams). A.J. Jenkins could get consideration for the 5th WR position, but a lack of special teams contributions will do him in.

TE (4) - Jason Witten, Gavin Escobar, James Hanna, Geoff Swaim - with the Cowboys trading a future draft pick for him, and Swaim showing some potential, I think he makes the team. Hanna's spot could be tenuous.

OT (4) - Tyron Smith, Doug Free, Darrion Weems, Laurence Gibson - neither Weems nor Gibson should be too comfortable. Tony Hills could be brought back to be the swing OT. Gibson played both left and right tackle last night. He has the requisite athleticism, but he is raw as can be, and needs to convert weight room strength to functional football strength. He lets defenders get into his body too easily, and loses the leverage battle more than he should.

OG (4) - Ron Leary, Zack Martin, Mackenzy Bernadeau, La'el Collins - Leary and Martin are as good a guard combo as there is in the league. Collins played only RG last night. He still needs some seasoning, but has all of the raw tools to be a very good player. Bernadeau is a better center than guard, but is an adequate backup.

C (1) - Travis Frederick - they are in very good hands with Frederick. As valuable a player as there is on the team.

DEFENSE (26)

DE (5) - DeMarcus Lawrence, Jeremy Mincey, Randy Gregory, Ryan Russell, Lavar Edwards - Ben Gardner is just too limited a player physically to make this team. He has a great motor, but just is too ineffectual, and is not position diverse. Russell has shown potential at both end and the 3 technique. Gregory looks like a future star, and perhaps a present one. Lawrence's time in the weight room has served him well. He looks poised for a very solid season. Edwards is a strong end who can set the edge, and flashed more rush ability this preseason. His spot is a placeholder for when Greg Hardy's suspension ends.

DT (5) - Tyrone Crawford, Nick Hayden, Jack Crawford, Davon Coleman, Ken Bishop - Terrell McClain cannot stay healthy, and thus, is not reliable enough. Coleman has been the most pleasant surprise, showing a lot of power and quickness to his game. Jack Crawford and Tyrone Crawford should be a good tag team at the 3T position - a lot of upfield quickness in that duo. Bishop beats out McClain due to availability - Bishop has shown it, McClain has not.

OLB (5) - Sean Lee, Damien Wilson, Kyle Wilber, Andrew Gachkar, Keith Smith - Lee is the key. If he stays healthy, this defense has the shot to play at a very high level. If he isn't, it will be a huge problem. Wilson is aggressive, and has a nose for the ball, but he is on the ground too much. Wilber contributes in a lot of areas, especially on special teams. Gachkar is another versatile, winning type of player. Keith Smith has been very impressive, and has flown to the ball in his opportunities. He needs to keep it up, as his spot will be in jeopardy when Rolando McClain is back from his suspension.

MLB (2) - Anthony Hitchens, Jasper Brinkley - Hitchens needs to figure out have to protect his legs better - this is two years in a row with ankle issues. He is a very valuable piece, and was a very good selection a season ago. Brinkley finally showed up against his old team yesterday. His guaranteed money will likely dictate him keeping his roster spot.

CB (5) - Brandon Carr, Morris Claiborne, Tyler Patmon, Byron Jones, Corey White - a lot of versatility with Jones and White - traits that make this unit very deep. Carr played big in the playoffs last season - his confidence is as high as it has been since he joined the Cowboys. Claiborne has a huge chance to rebound with Scandrick out for the season. He needs to put up, or one of the others will take his spot. Patmon has a lot of pressure on him to hold down the slot position. It will be interesting to see how he holds up with the spotlight on him.

SS (2) - Barry Church, Danny McCray - McCray was the biggest beneficiary of the Scandrick injury. Without it, he would have been cut.

FS (2) - J.J. Wilcox, Jeff Heath - Wilcox needs to take the next step. He's physically all that you want in a safety, but mentally, he plays a step slow. In many ways, he's a huge key to the defense this season. While Jones and White have the physical ability to play FS, neither have the hitting ability of Wilcox. Heath has been a punching bag for the fan base, but in reality, he's a solid player who is a strong special teams contributor.

SPECIALISTS (3)
LS - L.P. Ladouceur - one of the most underrated performers on the team. Consistently excellent at his role.
P - Chris Jones - another punching bag of the fan base, but a good punter who does well on limiting returns and keeping the ball inside the 20.
K - Dan Bailey - has been excellent, and one of the team's very best players, but struggled in the playoffs, and needs to straighten things out.

PRACTICE SQUAD (not complete)
QB Dustin Vaughan - not my preference, but I think the coaching staff gives him another year to develop. Regressed big time this preseason.
C Shane McDermott - showed enough to think that he could develop into a backup in the future.
RB Gus Johnson - no power back on the roster, can serve role on the scout team and still develop.
WR Nick Harwell - showed some potential, worth giving a shot to develop.
LB Jonathan Brown - showed decent run and chase skills.
DE Ben Gardner - good candidate for scout team duty, as he has experience in both a 3-4 and 4-3 scheme.
DE Efe Obada - physically has a lot of tools. Needs to learn how to play, and learn leverage.
CB Joel Ross - showed decent cover skills in camp.

Others will be added to the PS from other teams.
 

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Your projection is almost identical to mine.

QBs (2) Romo, Weeden
I can't see any reasons to carry either Vaughan or Showers on the 53 at this point.

Going with 2 QBs is a definite possibility, but I can't help but wonder what the coaching staff and front office truly think of Dustin Vaughan.

There's just so much that goes into the QB position that we don't know about and we rarely hear about what's really going on behind closed doors.

The only difference in my 53 and yours is right now I have Vaughan on mine instead of DT Terrell McClain.

WRs (5) Bryant, Williams, Beasley, Street, Whitehead
Improvements made by Williams and Beasley this offseason should make the passing game more potent. I still believe Whitehead makes the team at this point, but isn't going to be trusted with return duties yet.

I mirror your thoughts here.

I'm buying Lucky Whitehead's upside, even if he isn't the primary returner to open the season.

I'm also fine keeping just five WRs because of the pass catching ability of the TEs and RBs. We'll stick a couple of wideouts on the practice squad and call it a day.

OL (9) Smith, Leary, Frederick, Martin, Free, Weems, Bernadeau, Collins, Gibson
I still could see Gibson going on the practice squad, but his improvement in practice and the fact that the team doesn't carry just eight OL that often made me keep him.

I wouldn't risk losing Laurence Gibson on waivers.

As you said, the team has a history of going long on the OL. Donald Hawkins was a waiver claim last year prior to the regular season opener and he stayed on the 53 the entire season. Hawkins was released in May before the off-season program even began.

DL (11) (Hardy), Mincey, T. Crawford, Hayden, Lawrence, Gregory, T. McClain, J. Crawford, Coleman, Russell, Gardner, Bishop
I'm still going long here although I do think we could stop at 10 with the last spot coming down to T. McClain and Bishop, and go longer at LB.

I'm keeping 10 here with Ken Bishop making the cut in favor of Terrell McClain.

Rod Marinelli wants to use an eight man rotation, so it's easy to argue keeping 11 since all are worthy.

Another possibility to consider is keeping 6 DEs with Lavar Edwards also making it instead of the last DT. All the DEs except Randy Gregory can double as DTs on passing downs, so maybe we go extra long here, but Edwards could also get moved for a conditional draft pick next year.

LBs (6) (R. McClain), Lee, Hitchens, Gachkar, Wilber, Wilson and Smith
Gachkar played very well at the Mike tonight, and Wilber being tried there last week seems to mean Brinkley won't be kept. Smith is a better special teams choice.

My thoughts as well.

Jasper Brinkley may make it, but I don't see it right now.

DBs (9) Carr, Claiborne, Church, Wilcox, Jones, White, Patmon, Heath, McCray
Claiborne looked like he belonged tonight while Jones looked like he needs a little more seasoning in coverage.

Danny McCray best not get comfortable, IMO.

I don't believe he's the same special teams player he once was and may get churned if we are awarded a waiver claim that is a better option.
 

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I don't think we keep Clutts and 4 TEs. Swaim to the PS or Hanna waived.

LBs are not as deep as we thought but Smith should stay over Wilber and Brinkley is safe because of Ro Mc.
 

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I don't think we keep Clutts and 4 TEs. Swaim to the PS or Hanna waived.

LBs are not as deep as we thought but Smith should stay over Wilber and Brinkley is safe because of Ro Mc.

I think it's a forgone conclusion that we do. For starters, during practice Hanna was one of the guys who practice on every special teams unit. Kickoffs, Kick returns, Punts, Punt returns, Field Goals and Field Goal (defense) so he is not getting released. A trade is a possibility, but I tend to think he is more valuable to us than anyone else. As far as Swaim goes, he traded a 2016 draft pick for him and he's played well, can't imagine the team wanted him that much, yet gives him no chance to make the roster. I could see if he was bad and just looked lost, but he's made good on the limited opportunities he's had.
 

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I don't think we keep Clutts and 4 TEs. Swaim to the PS or Hanna waived.

I was thinking the same when I started typing out a 53 Friday, but I found it wasn't hard to keep both players.

And I'm no Tyler Clutts fan, either.

Clutts plays FB, albeit not very well while also contributing on specials and being an emergency tailback.

James Hanna is our best blocking TE not named Jason Witten and it also good on special teams.

Geoff Swaim was billed as a blocker but appears to be better as a receiver and should develop into a future Y.

Isn't it better to keep all four TEs and have some depth at the position rather than get rid of one by whatever means?

LBs are not as deep as we thought but Smith should stay over Wilber and Brinkley is safe because of Ro Mc.

Kyle Wilber is a good special teams player and versatile, if nothing else, as a LB.

I don't think he's going anywhere.

I'm keeping Keith Smith over Jasper Brinkley, but all could be kept while Rolando McClain is out the first four games.

I just don't see going long at LB instead of elsewhere, though.
 

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While I have Brinkley on the team, on my first attempt prior to game 1 I didn't because it seemed they were trying everyone except Brinkley at MLB and I don't think he's on special teams. The main reason I changed my mind was Hitchens injury. At this point it would not surprise me to see some combination of Wilson, Brinkley, Gehkar and Wilber starting week 1, so I just couldn't release him.
 

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QB-2- Romo, Weeden
RB-4- Randle, DMC, Dunbar, Clutts
TE-3- Witten, Escobar, Hanna (Swaim-PS)
WR-5- Dez, TWill, Beasley, Street, Lucky
OL-9- TSmith, Leary, Fred, Martin, Free, Collins, MBern, Weems, Gibson(Green PUP)

DE- 5- (Hardy-Susp), DLaw, Gregory, Mincey, Gardner, Russell
DT- 5- TCrawford, JCrawford, Hayden, Bishop, Edwards
LB- 7- Lee, Hitchens, Wilson, Gachkar, Brinkley, Smith, Wilber (RoMc-susp)
CB-6- Carr, BJones, Claiborne, White, Patmon, vet FA
S-4- Wilcox, Church, Heath, McCray

ST-3- Bailey, CJones, Ladouceur

Pretty similar to most
 

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I'm not sure Dallas has a real high opinion of Edwards. I could be wrong, but I don't remember seeing him in games until we get pretty deep into the depth chart. I'd have to go back and look, though.

He has been in the games before Gardner.
 

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He has been in the games before Gardner.

Just for posterity, because you're clearly completely unbiased, can I see your PBP breakdown for Edwards for the 9ers game too. Something tells me the plays he makes won't be accompanied by excuses for why he made them...
 

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He has been in the games before Gardner.

Didn't think he was in this one, but I'll go back and look. I don't have a problem with Edwards, other than wanting to see more than what he has shown as a "seasoned" player. He is credited on nfl.com as having three tackles and a sack against San Diego, but no statistics against either San Fran or Minnesota. It also seemed to me from an eyeball standpoint that he didn't build on that first performance, while Gardner has come on some. He was credited with three tackles in the first game, two and a sack in the second and an assisted tackle in the third.

I know that doesn't tell us everything about their performances, but the numbers support Gardner having played better. Gardner seems like the more well-rounded player, but I could see neither making the team because both need work. However, I can also see Gardner becoming the Nick Hayden of the DE position at the very least. Fortunately, we at least have someone better to start at DE.
 

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While I have Brinkley on the team, on my first attempt prior to game 1 I didn't because it seemed they were trying everyone except Brinkley at MLB and I don't think he's on special teams. The main reason I changed my mind was Hitchens injury. At this point it would not surprise me to see some combination of Wilson, Brinkley, Gehkar and Wilber starting week 1, so I just couldn't release him.

The Hitchens injury definitely might affect how many LBs we carry. However, with Brinkley essentially getting passed (seemingly) as Rolando's replacement by Hitchens, then Wilber, then Gachkar, I have to wonder if Dallas trusts him at all at the spot. Now, the Cowboys might have just been looking at combinations, but I don't think it bodes well when you're a veteran middle linebacker and they don't even have you in there with the starters with the first two options sidelined.
 

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My offseason Dream Team

QB-2- Romo, Weeden, Yates
RB-4- Randle, DMC, Dunbar, Clutts, Murray
TE-3- Witten, Escobar, Hanna (Swaim-PS)
WR-5- Dez, TWill, Beasley, Street, Lucky CPatterson
OL-9- TSmith, Leary, Fred, Martin, Free, Parnell, Collins, MBern, Weems, Gibson(Green PUP)

DE- 5- Hardy, DLaw, Gregory, Mincey, Gardner
DT- 5- TCrawford, JCrawford, Hayden, Bishop, Russell, Fairley
LB- 7- Lee, Hitchens, Wilson, Gachkar, Brinkley, Smith, RoMcClain
CB-6- Carr, BJones, Claiborne, White, Patmon, vet FA(OScan)
S-4- Wilcox, Church, Heath, McCray, Swearinger

ST-3- Bailey, CJones, Ladouceur
 

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Just for posterity, because you're clearly completely unbiased, can I see your PBP breakdown for Edwards for the 9ers game too. Something tells me the plays he makes won't be accompanied by excuses for why he made them...


Didn't think he was in this one, but I'll go back and look. I don't have a problem with Edwards, other than wanting to see more than what he has shown as a "seasoned" player. He is credited on nfl.com as having three tackles and a sack against San Diego, but no statistics against either San Fran or Minnesota. It also seemed to me from an eyeball standpoint that he didn't build on that first performance, while Gardner has come on some. He was credited with three tackles in the first game, two and a sack in the second and an assisted tackle in the third.

I know that doesn't tell us everything about their performances, but the numbers support Gardner having played better. Gardner seems like the more well-rounded player, but I could see neither making the team because both need work. However, I can also see Gardner becoming the Nick Hayden of the DE position at the very least. Fortunately, we at least have someone better to start at DE.


My point is not about Edwards. My point is that I have not seen much from Gardner.

Prior to training camp I saw a lot of posts of people that thought Gardner would be really good. He was somewhat a common pet cat for the board. Now I'm seeing a similar percentage of people saying that he is doing well despite the fact that I have not seen much proof of it.

I'm fairly certain a lot of it is confirmation bias. People expected or wanted Gardner to do well and that makes it very easy for them to believe that he is indeed doing well. People didn't expect anything from Edwards and therefore don't really even know if he is in the game.

IMO, stats a meaningless in a preseason game. You have to watch each play to see if a player is exhibiting signs that he could perform in real games against starting NFL players. If an OL forgets the snap count and stays in his stance and a pass rusher runs past him for a sack, that will show up in the stats but I'm not really going to be impressed the pass rusher won against air.
 
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