Official officiating thread

[Diogenes]

Have you watched the video (not a freeze frame) of the play? I just did. The center #63, who is totally hidden from view in that freeze frame people keep posting, is the guy who put Irving to the ground.

Lang still put an arm on him, but it was for a split second.

Yeah, I hate it when people use still shots and claim it to be irrefutable proof of something. It was a borderline hold at most and the refs usually aren't going to make that call unless it's blatantly obvious. None of this is excusing the refs for their overall performance yesterday. They were awful in so many ways.

 

[BlueStar22]

Offensive. The way Brice Butler ran near Dak and then back off the field was horrible. They should have tossed him from the game. (Sarcasm).

The need to stop using the officials that graded out the best for the playoffs and use the CREWS that graded out the best for playoff games. You still have guys who are working together for the first time. That call on Butler should not have been called.

 

[Diogenes]

The officiating wasn't the issue, they generally called a good game and let some things go if anything.

I'm not going to blame the refs for the loss or even say it was one-sided against us but to say that they called a good game is completely inaccurate. The were awful.

 

[gmoney112]

So you think the refs were out to get us by calling a player entering a huddle then leaving it.
Has it even happened before?

And what bias are you referring to? Assume you didn't mean me personally....but you never know around here.
My bias is for the Cowboys, obviously.

I think calling a penalty that directly took points off the board, destroyed momentum, when it hasn't been called in 30 years is when you start questioning the bias of the crew.

Following it up with a egregious missed call that would have been first and goal on the 1 only confirms that.

The first called penalty in 30 years and a blatant missed call took 10 points off the board. That's a fact.

 

[morasp]

The calls were obviously biased. All of the things mentioned took momentum away from us. The thing I noticed on almost every cowboys offensive play was that they took away a half to full yard when they spotted the ball. I watched the replay on Tivo in slow motion and Zeke would go down on the 30 for example and they would spot it just ahead of the 29. It was the opposite when they spotted it for the Packers. It was so bad that when Witten caught a pass for a first down he stayed on the ground made eye contact with the ref and moved the ball as if saying are you going to give it to us and the ref actually nodded and motioned first down. I didn't even watch the Chiefs game but it sounded like the Steelers got their usual preferential treatment as well. I saw one headline that said Kelce for the Chiefs went on a tirade at one of the refs. It's getting very difficult to take the NFL serious.

It's not just the calls in the game, the timing of the questions for zeke on this domestic violence couldn't have come at a worst time and the whole Randy Gregory thing was a joke.

 

[DFWJC]

I think calling a penalty that directly took points off the board, destroyed momentum, when it hasn't been called in 30 years is when you start questioning the bias of the crew.

Following it up with a egregious missed call that would have been first and goal on the 1 only confirms that.

The first penalty in 30 years and a blatant missed call took 10 points off the board. That's a fact.

Ok. gmoney. Was just asking for clarification.

 

[Jake]

When I visit another team's board and the first thing I see is an officiating thread that is several pages long, I know what I think. You probably think the same thing, when it's another team's fan base.

We lost. It sucks, but only one team gets the trophy at the end of the season.

 

[4lifecowboy]

Have you watched the video (not a freeze frame) of the play? I just did. The center #63, who is totally hidden from view in that freeze frame people keep posting, is the guy who put Irving to the ground.

Lang still put an arm on him, but it was for a split second.

I did and # 70 is the guy that horse tackles him and #70 is the player that was on top of him on the ground

 

[ElGatoGrande]

The NFL structure needs to be shaken up, there are deep systemic flaws in how it manages the officials and games, their product is tainted.

 

[Elusive6thRing]

How can David Irving get completely wiped out knocked down on the play that decides the game and the refs hold their flags and do nothing?

 

[Elusive6thRing]

When I visit another team's board and the first thing I see is an officiating thread that is several pages long, I know what I think. You probably think the same thing, when it's another team's fan base.

We lost. It sucks, but only one team gets the trophy at the end of the season.

I don't care what fans of other teams think I only care about what I think. I saw the game, if the bad calls against both teams were at least even I would not say peep. I am not looking for my team to get hand outs, but we got screwed I saw it with my own eyes. I am not going to ignore what my eyes saw just because it might make my look like a sore loser there were a couple of calls that we got away with but they got away with more, on the road, unacceptable.

 

[Diogenes]

I did and # 70 is the guy that horse tackles him and #70 is the player that was on top of him on the ground

Are you completely making things up on purpose or just providing false information because that's what you want to believe and didn't bother to verify it?

RG TJ Lang (#70) briefly gets his arm around Irving's neck after the snap, then C Corey Linsley (#63) comes over to help and pancakes Irving, landing on top of him. By this time Lang (#70) has already moved on to see if he can find someone else block. So no it wasn't #70 who was on top of him on the ground.

 

[tm1119]

This is honestly just getting pathetic at this point guys. The refs were not the reason we lost the game. The team didn't show up for most of the 1st 1/2 and then a couple of bad coaching decisions finished us off. Stop crying and move on

 

[Elusive6thRing]

This is honestly just getting pathetic at this point guys. The refs were not the reason we lost the game. The team didn't show up for most of the 1st 1/2 and then a couple of bad coaching decisions finished us off. Stop crying and move on

So you would say this no matter what if we lose even if you didn't see the game another words the refs cannot have an impact on the game? because there were 5-6 times they made bad calls that stopped our momentum. I am sick of this same post I keep seeing over and over I am not saying the refs were the absolute sole reason we lost but anyone with two eyes even someone who hates the Cowboys should be able to see the Packers got the majority of calls yet we have so called Cowboy fans ridiculing people who have an opinion that the refs were terrible when they absolutely were this is mind boggling to me. There is plenty of blame to go around but that includes the refs.

 

[iamliko22]

Im more mad today then yesterday

 

[SlimBig]

It was a hold as an unbiased viewer. He hooked the DE's head with his left arm as he came around the edge and then fell on him as the DE lost his footing. They generally call that.

If that's a hold then they can call that about 15 times a game. Every game I watch Dlineman are held by that one arm by the Olineman when trying to get passed them.
That goes with our Oline too.

Reputation is huge in the NFL. If you are know as a great Oline or defense, you get away with some blatant transgressions. See Packers, Seahawks, Patriots, Steelers, Ravens defense.

 

[tm1119]

So you would say this no matter what if we lose even if you didn't see the game another words the refs cannot have an impact on the game? because there were 5-6 times they made bad calls that stopped our momentum. I am sick of this same post I keep seeing over and over I am not saying the refs were the absolute sole reason we lost but anyone with two eyes even someone who hates the Cowboys should be able to see the Packers got the majority of calls yet we have so called Cowboy fans ridiculing people who have an opinion that the refs were terrible when they absolutely were this is mind boggling to me. There is plenty of blame to go around but that includes the refs.

The only call that was truly a killer was the Witten non PI call. Were there other bad calls? Absolutely. But if you truly believe a bad 15 yard penalty call in the 1st quarter was the reason we lost then I don't know what to tell you. We lost because we couldn't stop the other team to save our lives and the coach decided to spike the ball on 1st down. The refs were not the reason we let up 34 points, that I can 100% assure you.

 

[Deep_South]

The only call that was truly a killer was the Witten non PI call. Were there other bad calls? Absolutely. But if you truly believe a bad 15 yard penalty call in the 1st quarter was the reason we lost then I don't know what to tell you. We lost because we couldn't stop the other team to save our lives and the coach decided to spike the ball on 1st down. The refs were not the reason we let up 34 points, that I can 100% assure you.

We were at their 16, so at minimum we come out of there with 3 points with a chip shot field goal. Instead, the refs backed us all the way back across midfield to our own 48 and we ended up punting. Three points ended up being the difference in the game.

 

[nathanlt]

This is honestly just getting pathetic at this point guys. The refs were not the reason we lost the game. The team didn't show up for most of the 1st 1/2 and then a couple of bad coaching decisions finished us off. Stop crying and move on

So predictable. This is not whining by fans. The Cowboys excellent season, far above any fans September expectations, was ended in a game that was not evenly officiated. Granted, if the GB team were on the receiving end of bad calls, fewer Dallas fans would be squawking. Even then, ANY lopsided officiating tarnishes the game. Aaron Rodgers played a lights out game, but the poor officiating calls into question his ability to win the game. Poor officiating benefitting Dallas would have called in to question their results, had the Cowboys won.

The NFL needs to minimize lopsided officiating, it tarnishes the NFLs ability to deliver a quality product to fans. We sure pay enough to watch the games, certainly enough to warrant better officiating. Full-time salaried officials, the elimination of mix and match crews during playoff games, and the removal of the comedian sitting in the NFL VP of Officiating are all must haves.

 

[hornitosmonster]

that hold at the end was obvious but Green Bay (Rodgers) knew that the refs would never throw that flag on the last play of the game.