Official Review Week 10 with Mike Periera

[Hoofbite]

Periera manned up on the third challenge.

Said it should have been a flag immediately and that it should have resulted in 15 additional yards.

 

[67CowboysFan]

Periera manned up on the third challenge.

Said it should have been a flag immediately and that it should have resulted in 15 additional yards.

Good deal, they are at least making changes so this hopefully doesn't happen again.

I really thought they'd bury this deep on the website late in the week hoping most would have forgotten about it (or maybe not post it at all).

 

[Hook'em#11]

Lose the challenges and instant replay.

Of course then, this pissant wouldn't get his 7 minutes on the NFL Network.

I think that 7mins would be better used *****ing out his "refs" for some of the calls they make.

Thought the Felix call was BS, until I saw the Jets one from last season? Holy hell, were they screwed.

 

[malbis030347]

yes, Periera is pathetic, he probably spends most of the week looking at all the blown calls and develop a story that he hopes the public will swallow in hopes that his crew does not look any dumber than they were that week

 

[juck]

Mike works for Vegas.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Here it is. I've been waiting to hear what Periera has to say and he doesn't disappoint.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d8144f81a/Official-Review-Week-10

At least for those who think it was a conspiracy against Dallas they give you a look at that play where the Jets were screwed over in the same fashion.

Tried to find the bonus coverage so I could hear his BS about the 3rd challenge but no luck yet.

Also, I didn't hear about Cleveland getting a 4th timeout. Wonder what he has to say about that one as well.

I tried to post about this on the refs etc and one zoner said i was crazy. Now what does he have to say. Jets had almost the same thing happen to them and cleveland got 4 timeouts in 2nd half, another blown call. Jerry Jones was on thefan 105.3 and said he and his son were yelling up in the press box on the blown challenge flag, and they knew the rule, but refs blew it. Jerry said most likely that wouldnt happen again, but it did in a way in the cleveland game the next time with 4 timeouts in 2nd half for cleveland.

So, now what do you say some zoners on me that I was trying to call your attention to poor officiating. Again, like I mentioned and read in several reports, seems like most refs dont know the rules or care, and when coaches are screaming at them for not throwing a flag they dont listen. Just like Mike Perorila vice pres of officials said, the refs wants the input of the head coaches, but they really dont listen. which points to what mike perolia said is a bunch of horse hockey and a cover up.

Again, you should penalize the refs with fines and suspensions when they keep blowing critical calls.

 

[Hoofbite]

I tried to post about this on the refs etc and one zoner said i was crazy. Now what does he have to say. Jets had almost the same thing happen to them and cleveland got 4 timeouts in 2nd half, another blown call. Jerry Jones was on thefan 105.3 and said he and his son were yelling up in the press box on the blown challenge flag, and they knew the rule, but refs blew it. Jerry said most likely that wouldnt happen again, but it did in a way in the cleveland game the next time with 4 timeouts in 2nd half for cleveland.

So, now what do you say some zoners on me that I was trying to call your attention to poor officiating. Again, like I mentioned and read in several reports, seems like most refs dont know the rules or care, and when coaches are screaming at them for not throwing a flag they dont listen. Just like Mike Perorila vice pres of officials said, the refs wants the input of the head coaches, but they really dont listen. which points to what mike perolia said is a bunch of horse hockey and a cover up.

Again, you should penalize the refs with fines and suspensions when they keep blowing critical calls.

I said it in your thread the other day and I'll have to go back and read after my post but I still don't think you fine the refs. Fining the refs doesn't help the problem, IMO.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I said it in your thread the other day and I'll have to go back and read after my post but I still don't think you fine the refs. Fining the refs doesn't help the problem, IMO.

So, basically what your saying then, we dont do anything to the refs, so refs say to themselves, oh gee, their not going to do anything to me, dock my pay or supend me a game or two, so why should i worry about missing some calls. Its not a big deal, anyway, let the fans worry, im getting 100,000 to 200,000 a year, (what the fans and nfl teams dont realize is that i get all that money for making poor calls, changing outcomes of games) so why should i care, nothing will be done to me, and i get to get all of that money, while laughing at the fans and players.

why should i study the rules and really know them; i know that commissioner goodell and mike p... vice president of officials will only chew on me privately but do nothing else to me, while i get to keep the money. Big deal if i dont get to call the superbowl, i still get the 100,000 to 200,000 a year while laughing at fans because theirs nothing they can do to me.

Look at it this way; in other words, if you purchased a car or some auto parts and you were giving the run around; we will fix things, but nothing is ever changed, would you put up with that? Who pays some of the bills for NFL, tv media, etc with their big contracts to the NFL to have the games on their shows like cbs, nbc, fox, espn. Who watches those games, the fans, who pays those bills to watch those games on cbs, nbc, fox, and espn, the fans.

Again, when fans get enough of poor officiating, and demand to goodell to stop all the coverup and do somethingabout it along with letting the owners know we as fans are really ticked off about poor officiating and no one being held accountable.

Need I remind you mike p.... said just the other day, that refs want the input of head coaches, but when wade was yelling at one ref on the challenge flag, he paid no attention to him. Again, another double standard by nfl refs and a cover up.

so, what has changed? Nothing!

 

[sonnyboy]

This is why I stated after the play happened that the question of whether the fumble should or should have been reviewed was never the issue.

The only issue is why would a referee, standing within five yards of the play and able to see everything happen, determine that the ball wasn't recovered by Felix Jones.

The message is clear. If a player falls on a fumble and you're on the opposing team, do everything humanly possible to rip the ball out of the guy's arms. If it means ripping the guy's arm out of its socket in plain view of the referee, so be it. The ball is live until the ref sees blood spurting out. Even then, that may not be enough to have the whistle blown.

This is a travesty, pure and simple. The rule must be changed and changed soon.

This is my problem with this rule or the interpretation of it. Not sure which at this point.
My point is that the league has done soo much to protect the players, even to the point the the game hardly resembles a contact sport anymore.

Yet they have a rule in place that incourages additional contact against players in a very volunerable position.

 

[DallasEast]

This is my problem with this rule or the interpretation of it. Not sure which at this point.
My point is that the league has done soo much to protect the players, even to the point the the game hardly resembles a contact sport anymore.

Yet they have a rule in place that incourages additional contact against players in a very volunerable position.

The official interpretation of the rule is ridiculous. If a receiver dives for a pass and catches it, he is immediately downed if the defender pats him on his butt before he gets off the ground. However, as demonstrated during both the Felix Jones NON-recovery and last season's Broncos/Jets game, if a player falls on a fumble, it doesn't matter if he is touched by a defender while in possession of the ball.

Why?

According to the NFL, it's the player's responsibility to hold onto the ball until the whistle is blown. It doesn't matter how long it takes for a referee (who has a great vantage point of the play) to blow his whistle. If the defender can be clearly seen ripping the ball out of the player's arms while his entire body is laying on the field, it doesn't make a bit of difference. The fumble is still live.

The interpretation of the rule literally screams stupidity. Ideally, a player attempting to recover a fumble, must first get off the ground and hope to be tackled while keeping possession of the football before the play can safely be ruled dead. Wild.

 

[cowboyjoe]

He just doesn't want to admit his crew messed up, unlike when he admitted it on McNabbs spotting last week.

******

thats my point zoners, he is trying to cover up and not admit a mistake, the rules also state when a player is on the ground like felix is and touched, that is a fumble

again on top of that felix was rolled over by the defender, then his back was on the ground, both hands on the ball and the defender rips the ball out of his hands, the whole world saw that;

its a COVER UP, TILL FANS GET MAD AND DEMAND RESULTS NOTHING WILL BE DONE, SO FANS HAVE TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED!

MAKE GOODELL AND MIKE P.... HOLD THE REFS ACCOUNTABLE AND NOT BY JUST A SLAP ON THE WRIST OR DONT DO IT AGAIN!

 

[cowboyjoe]

These interpretations of possession are the problem.

Felix had possession.

What's he suupposed to do roll around with the ball for five seconds and then stand up and then lay back down before they say he possessed the ball?



I don't agree with the way they rule the WR's falling out of bounds and having to roll around with the ball either.

Once the guy gets his feet down and leaves the field of play and any part of his body touches the out of bounds the play should be over with. He shouldn't have to keep posession until all of his momentum stops while he rolled over three times 10 yards past the end line.

It's just getting too picky in my opinion.

totally agree buddy, hey dc, i will message you a question, i have an idea

 

[cowboyjoe]

The official interpretation of the rule is ridiculous. If a receiver dives for a pass and catches it, he is immediately downed if the defender pats him on his butt before he gets off the ground. However, as demonstrated during both the Felix Jones NON-recovery and last season's Broncos/Jets game, if a player falls on a fumble, it doesn't matter if he is touched by a defender while in possession of the ball.

Why?

According to the NFL, it's the player's responsibility to hold onto the ball until the whistle is blown. It doesn't matter how long it takes for a referee (who has a great vantage point of the play) to blow his whistle. If the defender can be clearly seen ripping the ball out of the player's arms while his entire body is laying on the field, it doesn't make a bit of difference. The fumble is still live.

The interpretation of the rule literally screams stupidity. Ideally, a player attempting to recover a fumble, must first get off the ground and hope to be tackled while keeping possession of the football before the play can safely be ruled dead. Wild.

totally agree, you know what this points to me, that the refs are lazy to a degree, while sometimes afraid to throw a flag or make a call because the replay might show they errored, so what the refs do is let the play play out,

that way on a big play they can go back to the replay booth and let them hash it out;

totally agree about the refs standing there seeing a player over him and ripping the ball out when the player is on the ground, thats a bunch of hockey that the refs do that, but are quick when a player gets hit; etc

 

[SultanOfSix]

Sorry Mike. Doesn't fly.

Instead of owning up to and admitting the mistakes, you essentially lied about it. Since this seems to be a pattern with you, I can safely presume you are a liar when it comes to these type of things.

 

[visionary]

TILL FANS GET MAD AND DEMAND RESULTS NOTHING WILL BE DONE, !

I AM MAD AND I DEMAND RESULTS !!!!!!!!

FAN







wait.... nothing happened

 

[DallasEast]

totally agree, you know what this points to me, that the refs are lazy to a degree, while sometimes afraid to throw a flag or make a call because the replay might show they errored, so what the refs do is let the play play out,

that way on a big play they can go back to the replay booth and let them hash it out;

totally agree about the refs standing there seeing a player over him and ripping the ball out when the player is on the ground, thats a bunch of hockey that the refs do that, but are quick when a player gets hit; etc

The referee, who was standing in the backfield, was never five yards away from the Felix Jones NON-recovery.

"Laziness" was not a factor.

No foul was committed, so there wasn't any need to throw a flag.

Fumbles are not reviewable by replay and in both this case and last season's Broncos/Jets game, replay would not have been required at all EVEN IF fumbles were reviewable by rule. Period.

Fear was not a factor regardless whether the refs determined that Dallas retained possession of the fumble or in the way they actually ruled.

The referee allowed the fumble to "play itself out" because they have been taught or encouraged to allow the other team the right to rip the ball out of a player's arms, who is both laying on the field and touched by the other team's player(s) during the process.

 

[links18]

Perreira's explanation of why Felix did not recover the fumble was laughable at the best. This guy has clearly studied Goebbels.

 

[DallasEast]

Perreira's explanation of why Felix did not recover the fumble was laughable at the best. This guy has clearly studied Goebbels.

Indeed, but no one can say that he is not being consistent. When he referred to the Broncos/Jets example, he drew on an established precedent. We can knock the referee crew who officiated last Sunday's game, but ultimately the ref cannot be blamed if the league approves of this particular outcome by rule regarding a recovered fumble. There is not any question that the refs themselves should do better calling games, but in this instance, the language behind the rule must be modified to remove the nonsense first.

 

[cowboyjoe]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d8144f5c1/Official-Review-Week-10-bonus-coverage

Bonus coverage talking about the 3rd challenge and Clevelands 4th timeout.

anothe bunch of horse hockey;
mike p... admits that the booth monitor guy shows no more challenges blown call

and on 4th timeouts, another blown call

and these guys get 100,000 to 200,000 dollars

Is that getting your money's worth

was a bunch of horse hockey when he said, player has to be down, for contact, but in felix case he was down twice on top of the fumble and when he was rolled over by the defender, was down on ground again and then had ball ripped out of his hands

another bunch of horse hockey

this should all be put up on you tube,
the felix blunder by refs,
the challenge blunder by refs
the mike per... saying so
the cleveland 4th timeout blunder

remember jerry jones said that would never happen again after the blown challenge in green bay game, but was blown again with 4th timeout in cleveland game

and i guess (which is sad to say, that fans are going to be content with this and let the incompetent refs get away with this and let Mike goofup P... and Commissioner Goodell Goofall get away with this) this just burns me up

i know if i had a job and kept making blunders like this, i wouldnt have a job

or i wouldnt get paid for making such blunders

This all stinks!

 

[Longboysfan]

Well company policy states that.....no matter what we see it means nothing....


Just get it right.