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[casmith07]

I think this thread has run its course.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Does this statement mean that you think remaining faithful is an unnecessary goal?

pretty much as I believe you can still be a good husband and wife even if you do step out, doesn't make you a bad person or incapable of having a good family

 

[zrinkill]

pretty much as I believe you can still be a good husband and wife even if you do step out, doesn't make you a bad person or incapable of having a good family

 

[Teren_Kanan]

Posted by Zrinkill:
1- what kind of sick immoral individual likes watching peeping tom videos and adultery?

/raises hand.

There is a whole genre of porn based on this. Even a series called "cheating spouses".

Posted by CanadianCowboysFan:

George Washington, Abraham, John Kennedy, Thomas Jefferson, Dwight Eisenhower, Chief Justice Jackson etc were all bad people?

Everything I've read about them seems to indicate they were very good/iconic people. But how can it be true??? Some of them were admitted adulterers !

Posted by Zrinkill:
Wow ..... I see the perv is still advocating an immoral lifestyle.

Morals. 100% relative. Everyone on the planet has different morals, even if they share a large majority of them with someone else, you will almost always find a spot where 2 people disagree on what is "morally" acceptable.

Posted by bbgun:
I really gotta brush up on my Bible. There had to be a reason God flooded the Earth.

He said "Historically". Bible ≠ History.

Posted by bbgun:
In CCF's world, puritanical = honoring your vows.

Don't get me wrong here. On this point I'm arguing just for the sake of it, but not everyone has the same vows, and not everyone even has vows when they get married. You can get married in a courthouse with no vows if you prefer. in CCF's world, puritanical = the view that everyone should have the same vows/morals based on religious opinions.

posted by CCF:
pretty much as I believe you can still be a good husband and wife even if you do step out, doesn't make you a bad person or incapable of having a good family

Still fighting the good fight eh CCF? I think I like you.

I have to agree here.

There are cultures in this world where infidelity is not looked upon nearly as harshly as our western culture, for good reason. There are plenty of studies and evidence that show in a culture where 100% fidelity is expected, the average relationship lasts a much shorter amount of time, and there is generally far more fighting/arguing in them.

In some cultures (Japan, France, somewhat, and perhaps others I am unaware of), as long as the man is married to them, loves them (even if he has some emotional connection with other women), and plans to keep things stable, they leave him alone to entertain himself with others from time to time. That is not to say these things are 100% acceptable by everyone in these countries, but it's just not viewed as negatively as it is here in America.

To be clear, I am not advocating for EITHER side of the debate. I simply see both sides and don't have a problem with either of them. I've been with my girl for 5 years now and have never cheated, and I don't plan to. I'm with a girl who wouldn't want me to cheat, and so I won't. I love her more than anything so to me it's worth it.

But I certainly feel Love and Sex do not have to be related, and cheating on my GF does not mean I will feel any less love for her than I do now. I can also HONESTLY say that if I found out my GF cheated on me, and there was nothing ongoing (emotionally) with the other man, I could forgive her. I would prefer her never letting me find out, but that's more because we (Humans) are jealous by nature. I'd be more upset with the fact that I found out than the fact that it happened.
I'd have far more of a problem with finding out my GF was emotionally attached to another man, than I would finding out she simply had sex with with someone else.

To each their own though

 

[bbgun]

Everything I've read about them seems to indicate they were very good/iconic people. But how can it be true??? Some of them were admitted adulterers !

Believe it or not, you can be an effective statesman and a horrible human being at the same time. As Newsweek put it, JFK was pond scum.

Don't get me wrong here. On this point I'm arguing just for the sake of it, but not everyone has the same vows, and not everyone even has vows when they get married. You can get married in a courthouse with no vows if you prefer. in CCF's world, puritanical = the view that everyone should have the same vows/morals based on religious opinions.

You don't think his wife expected fidelity when she said "I do"? Let's ask her, shall we?

 

[zrinkill]

/raises hand.

Another one ...... :laugh2:

You and canadianboy should start a club.

 

[Teren_Kanan]

Believe it or not, you can be an effective statesman and a horrible human being at the same time. As Newsweek put it, JFK was pond scum.



You don't think his wife expected fidelity when she said "I do"? Let's ask her, shall we?

Who's wife are we speaking about again?

 

[DallasEast]

I think this thread has run its course.

Eee yep.