Orlovsky: Cowboys set Dak up to fail on offense

[iceberg]

No you haven't.

What are the names of QBs you think win the SB with Dallas last year? Not some abstraction. Name names.

read slower -

i do not play that "what if" game to this degree. i pick a name you run off on why that qb would fail here also. i do not get off on delusional emotionally charged discussions of fantasy and how a particular person may do in another system.

i also do not pick one year and say PROVE IT HERE as ONE YEAR isn't ****. i didn't judge dak off a stellar rookie year either. i kept watching.

now, you want me to "name names" so you can run off into abstraction and talk more of whatever the hell this is you're talking. i don't do this.

dak needs a team to carry him. he can't carry the team. he's a top flight bus driver but that's about it.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

This is a stupid question. It is what you guys do though. Dumb it down to this ridiculous argument. An argument that literally nobody has made. Yet here you are clinging to this fallacy as your lifeline to defend Dak against the haters. All emotion, no reason.

No it isn't. If the logic that the team is good and the QB is holding it back from winning the Super Bowl, then it should be easy to point out other QBs who would have won here.

You people act like you're on some higher level of thinking when you can't even respond to the most basic, fundamental question of your logic. If you can't answer this question, then you have no point.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

read slower -

i do not play that "what if" game to this degree

Because you can't substantiate your own point

 

[fivetwos]

‘I don’t understand how mid round draft picks can’t come in and be immediate impact players,’ Stephen Jones thinks to himself while scratching his head.


I’ll ask again….if management claims that there’s no money left to add players to the group that has proven many times to not be capable, where are we going with this?

I suppose the plan is to hope for miracle drafts.

 

[iceberg]

The truth of the matter is that you have no clue what you’re talking about blaming everything on 1 person.

and if you think im blaming one person, then ONE of us has no idea what they're talking about.

 

[iceberg]

This is a stupid question. It is what you guys do though. Dumb it down to this ridiculous argument. An argument that literally nobody has made. Yet here you are clinging to this fallacy as your lifeline to defend Dak against the haters. All emotion, no reason.

its a diversion. when you can't prove you're emotionally correct (who can, really?) then he does a rabbit hole distraction to get you to play so he can sideline the conversation THINKING it will somehow equate to dak sucking less.

 

[iceberg]

‘I don’t understand how mid round draft picks can’t come in and be immediate impact players,’ Stephen Jones thinks to himself while scratching his head.


I’ll ask again….if management claims that there’s no money left to add players to the group that has proven many times to not be capable, where are we going with this?

I suppose the plan is to hope for miracle drafts.

they can. late round picks can be the greatest qb of all time.

but that is the exception. play the odds.

 

[Rockport]

and if you think im blaming one person, then ONE of us has no idea what they're talking about.

I stand by my post and anyone with a lick of sense agrees with me.

 

[iceberg]

No it isn't. If the logic that the team is good and the QB is holding it back from winning the Super Bowl, then it should be easy to point out other QBs who would have won here.

You people act like you're on some higher level of thinking when you can't even respond to the most basic, fundamental question of your logic. If you can't answer this question, then you have no point.

its a stupid question because its all subjective and just changes the argument to different players, not results.

someone names another player you go off on why that player would lose also but - HOW DO YOU PROVE IT?

you don't.

ergo, its a buttnugget stupid question.

 

[Vtwin]

No it isn't. If the logic that the team is good and the QB is holding it back from winning the Super Bowl, then it should be easy to point out other QBs who would have won here.

You people act like you're on some higher level of thinking when you can't even respond to the most basic, fundamental question of your logic. If you can't answer this question, then you have no point.

Nobody has said the QB alone is holding this team back from a SB. Nobody.

You lack the basic and fundamental understanding of our logic. Your point is constructed out of straw.

 

[iceberg]

I stand by my post and anyone with a lick of sense agrees with me.

great. you and buffy the vampire slayer have a great day.

 

[iceberg]

Because you can't substantiate your own point

its impossible to substantiate a point based off an opinion. i could namy any qb at all and all you would do is say SEE NO - THEY CAN'T WIN HERE EITHER!

bet you $5 that's what you do in the end.

 

[iceberg]

Nobody has said the QB alone is holding this team back from a SB. Nobody.

You lack the basic and fundamental understanding of our logic. Your point is constructed out of straw.

im not sure any qb could win with this team or last. but when i say things like "dak can't carry this team" it doesn't mean i think anyone can.

brady has proven he can carry a team if he has to.
dak has not.

now can brady win on this or last years cowboys team?

no.

but that doesn't invalidate the point that dak can't carry a team and that's what they're trying to do.

 

[5Stars]

This is a stupid question. It is what you guys do though. Dumb it down to this ridiculous argument. An argument that literally nobody has made. Yet here you are clinging to this fallacy as your lifeline to defend Dak against the haters. All emotion, no reason.

It's just childish deflection, usually happens when they have no answer.

 

[Rockport]

great. you and buffy the vampire slayer have a great day.

You and SAS have a great day as well.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

its impossible to substantiate a point based off an opinion. i could namy any qb at all and all you would do is say SEE NO - THEY CAN'T WIN HERE EITHER!

bet you $5 that's what you do in the end.

Lol I can't believe someone just actually wrote and hit send on that first sentence. I would do that, because unless the name is Pat Mahomes, you would be making a totally baseless argument, and you know it.

"There is enough to win a SB in Dallas but I can't name a QB who would have done better" is a preposterous way to think.

 

[iceberg]

It's just childish deflection, usually happens when they have no answer.

and wow - look at them scream when you don't play.

one of the biggest reasons NOT to play is to simply play a different game at their expense.

 

[leeblair]

The excuses are coming already!
He's got top receivers. He has no excuse.

 

[iceberg]

Lol I can't believe someone just actually wrote and hit send on that first sentence. I would do that, because unless the name is Pat Mahomes, you would be making a totally baseless argument, and you know it.

"There is enough to win a SB in Dallas but I can't name a QB who would have done better" is a preposterous way to think.

which isn't what i said.

we got a $5 bet or not? seems you've already picked a player so fine.

mahomes.

now tell me he'd not win here either cause this team sucks and i'll tell you where you can donate my $5.

NOW - in the event you ever wish to talk with me as an adult, please let me know, don't make my side of the discussion for me and if you feel you must, at least try to say something intelligent.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

which isn't what i said.

we got a $5 bet or not? seems you've already picked a player so fine.

mahomes.

now tell me he'd not win here either cause this team sucks and i'll tell you where you can donate my $5.

NOW - in the event you ever wish to talk with me as an adult, please let me know, don't make my side of the discussion for me and if you feel you must, at least try to say something intelligent.

Mahomes and Josh Allen would do better here than Dak. I think Lamar's skillset makes it possible, and Herbert/TLaw have more arm talent that would allow them to compensate for some of the lack of separation issues better than Dak.

BUT, other than for Mahomes, that hasn't mattered in the playoffs, so the idea that it would compensate enough in Dallas is flawed. There's no logic to it.

Now go ahead and name the QBs you think.