Orlovsky ranks the impact of starting QBs

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Ceiling is what elevated Herbert.
Dak has zero ceiling at this point.

Lmao ok

 

[Flamma]

Not sure about Jimmy G or Mac........Stafford is 2nd tier IMO

My only problem with this is that the impact is overblown. With all things considered equal, which rarely are, this could be true. But most QBs, even the great ones, can't make up for an inferior roster.

Aaron Rodgers is a good example of this. Now imagine tier 2 quarterbacks.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

This is the guy who absolutely sucked at QB, but he believes he knows how to judge QBs? What a joke.

Translation:

"I don't agree with him. He didn't praise Dak. Therefore...he's a joke"

 

[McMicah]

Turnover worthy plays.

Allen had 13 total fumbles. Fumbles lost is irrelevant.

Don't talk about coming correct. Allen was unequivocally more turnover prone.

Good hustle, good effort.

I'm going to just keep posting this one every time someone mentions Dak's INTs

And yet, I’d much rather have Allen. Dude hasn’t hit his ceiling, Dak has, and Allen is a better QB right now.

He’s has better power, accuracy, and legs, and he’s only gonna get better at reading defenses. Josh threw a lot of interceptions because he’s a deep ball thrower. Dak doesn’t throw deep nearly as much but he still throws picks and more importantly makes inexplicably errant throws even on 5 yard crossers

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

And yet, I’d much rather have Allen. Dude hasn’t hit his ceiling, Dak has, and Allen is a better QB right now.

He’s has better power, accuracy, and legs, and he’s only gonna get better at reading defenses. Josh threw a lot of interceptions because he’s a deep ball thrower. Dak doesn’t throw deep nearly as much but he still throws picks and more importantly makes inexplicably errant throws even on 5 yard crossers

In a comment about Josh Allen, this is hilarious.

Just saying things.

 

[basel90]

It's worth noting that that the Eagles tried to pass into winning a SB and Chiefs relied heavily on their running game and they have Mahomes......there's winning football...and there's fantasy with stupidity.

if you are comparing jalen hurts to dak , you must know there is a huge talent gap. Jalen , who the cowboys could have drafted and cost 1.4 mil a year his initial 3-4 years , is a multi threat running and passing and dak is nowhere. Heck , jalen showed up big time passing in the super bowl throwing 375 yards.
There is no comparison here.
And of course the chiefs won because they have the top passer in mahomes.

dak has not shown any of that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

if you are comparing jalen hurts to dak , you must know there is a huge talent gap. Jalen , who the cowboys could have drafted and cost 1.4 mil a year his initial 3-4 years , is a multi threat running and passing and dak is nowhere. Heck , jalen showed up big time passing in the super bowl throwing 375 yards.
There is no comparison here.
And of course the chiefs won because they have the top passer in mahomes.

dak has not shown any of that.

I did not compare anyone. I’m telling you what happen not what I think happened. And Mahomes was limited because of injury.

The facts are the Chiefs had 182 passing yards in the Super Bowl and Eagles had 300 plus passing yards. One team won and one team lost. He did not throw for 375 yards did you even watch the SB? Or you just come straight to. Ring up Dak lol?

 

[Rockport]

He threw into coverage. He threw inaccurate passes. Receivers ran wrong routes, gave up on routes, screwed up at the top of the route, etc. The offense was a predictable with poor disguise on play action and constant curls and deeps in/out that made us very predictable.

What concerns me is how he started throwing into coverage. It was like he was not seeing coverage and getting fooled whereas before that was not a problem. The moves that they have made look to address that concern so I cannot complain.

He had no choice. He’s never thrown allot of int’s in a season. And when your WR runs the wrong route then it looks like he’s throwing into coverage.

 

[jrumann59]

Those top 2 groups could be re-ordered a bit outside of Mahomes Rodgers, maybe Allen and Burrow. Personally think that Lamar and Geno are the least polished of all the QBs on the list as a QB, Lamar is an elite runner.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

Amazing how many excuses you all make for your hero. It's always someone's else's fault that makes him look so bad.

LOL, he has already peaked and reaching 30, ain't gonna get better. Less mobility, less accuracy, less arm, less guts Can't put it anymore simpler than that. You all throw everyone under the bus...the OL, the receivers, the OC....LOL...amazing.

 

[diamonddelts]

He was the same guy who thought Wentz was one of the top QB's just 3 seasons ago, so happens that his wife's family is from philly. I wouldn't take any opinions from ESPN as they are looking more for ratings and actual real analysis.

Exactly. Orliovsky was a bottom of the barrel quarterback. His analysis is even worse.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Translation:

"I don't agree with him. He didn't praise Dak. Therefore...he's a joke"

Translation:

"If Orlovsky bashed Romo, I would blast Orlovsky back. He'd better not say anything about my Romo! What a clown."

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Translation:

"If Orlovsky bashed Romo, I would blast Orlovsky back. He'd better not say anything about my Romo! What a clown."

But....ROMOOOOOOOO!



Go ahead...say something bad about Romo. Don't care. LONG ago in the past. I am over him.

You? LOL....still in your head HARD! Poor dude. AT least you don't deny your agenda. Good for you.

 

[America's Cowboy]

But....ROMOOOOOOOO!



Go ahead...say something bad about Romo. Don't care. LONG ago in the past. I am over him.

You? LOL....still in your head HARD! Poor dude. AT least you don't deny your agenda. Good for you.

Nah, you will cry some more. Tired of seeing you adults whine day after day, year after year. Sad.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Translation:

"I don't agree with him. He didn't praise Dak. Therefore...he's a joke"

But Dan has shown to be bias. Pro Eagles anti Cowboys.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

Herbert and Hurts are outrageously overrated.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

But Dan has shown to be bias. Pro Eagles anti Cowboys.

Okay then. We will grade on that curve and say his Dak ranking isn't all that bad given he hates us.

 

[basel90]

I did not compare anyone. I’m telling you what happen not what I think happened. And Mahomes was limited because of injury.

The facts are the Chiefs had 182 passing yards in the Super Bowl and Eagles had 300 plus passing yards. One team won and one team lost. He did not throw for 375 yards did you even watch the SB? Or you just come straight to. Ring up Dak lol?

Don’t dance around. answer the question, is Dak better than Jalen ?? that is the issue here if you forgot to read the title of the thread

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Don’t dance around. answer the question, is Dak better than Jalen ?? that is the issue here if you forgot to read the title of the thread

I’m not dancing around anything Dak is coming off his worst season and Jalen had a MVP level season. Common sense says Jalen was better. You are trying to deflect because your point is irrelevant. The Chiefs did not pass to win a SB. They relied heavily on the run game and the Eagles passed to the point of having Hurts pass too much and of course he fumbles for a touchdown.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He had no choice. He’s never thrown allot of int’s in a season. And when your WR runs the wrong route then it looks like he’s throwing into coverage.

Rock you are talking to me, not some idiot that does not know how route combos and the like. Not seeing the safety coming over is what it is as is missing the LB running underneath.