Our QB is broken

[OGSixshooter]

Jones believes he is a football genius. He acquired Lance as a possible replacement for Prescott down the road.

Who? Cooper Rush? Okay.

Everyone can see Prescott was devastated. He got over it after a good night sleep on a Sleep Number mattress.

lol. Jones dropped Romo like a hot rock only after seeing Prescott perform extremely well for two months of a regular season. So...................... I guess THE PLAN is for Lance to immediately take over despite the fact he has not yet performed nowhere nearly as well as Prescott did his rookie year thus far. Fantastic plan.

Aikman was a selection with Jimmy Johnson's input. Carter was the idiot's 'football genius' in full effect. The absence of a high pick and (what I also stated earlier) a proven starting quality veteran suggests Jones believes in Prescott more than you do.

Now I'M defending Jones? ME???????????????????? CowboysZone.

You haven't refuted any point that shows Jones believes in Dak. You basically tried to parse my post to make yourself look right. OK...but you don't have to be right all the time. You need to make a point regarding Jones' unshakeable belief in Dak. I gave you a number of moves, trades and comparisons to chew on. Peace.

 

[erod]

Did GB punt in that game? Was that because Dak was broken also?

Did the offense keep the defense off the field? Sometimes you have to win a shootout. Dak can't do that when it really matters.

 

[OGSixshooter]

Jones believes he is a football genius. He acquired Lance as a possible replacement for Prescott down the road.

Who? Cooper Rush? Okay.

Everyone can see Prescott was devastated. He got over it after a good night sleep on a Sleep Number mattress.

lol. Jones dropped Romo like a hot rock only after seeing Prescott perform extremely well for two months of a regular season. So...................... I guess THE PLAN is for Lance to immediately take over despite the fact he has not yet performed nowhere nearly as well as Prescott did his rookie year thus far. Fantastic plan.

Aikman was a selection with Jimmy Johnson's input. Carter was the idiot's 'football genius' in full effect. The absence of a high pick and (what I also stated earlier) a proven starting quality veteran suggests Jones believes in Prescott more than you do.

Now I'M defending Jones? ME???????????????????? CowboysZone.

And Jerry did not drop Romo, the TEAM did. This is well-documented that Jerry wanted Romo put back in, but Garrett told Jerry if he did that he would lose the locker room.

 

[OmerV]

Did the offense keep the defense off the field? Sometimes you have to win a shootout. Dak can't do that when it really matters.

And sometimes you need the defense step up. It isn't just on one side of the ball.

Bottom line is Cowboys didn't play well as a whole.

Dak certainly was a part of that - a big part.

But nobody and no unit stepped up.

 

[OGSixshooter]

Are you confident that those QBs win when the defense gives up 6 offensive TDs in the Packers first 7 drives?

I'm not trying to defend Dak, he was PATHETIC.

And ... AND ... The defense was PATHETIC.

I'm sorry I don't share your optimism that replacing just the QB wins the GB game. It was an absolute TEAM meltdown and GB, who won the toss didn't even hesitate to receive the ball and star scoring TDs on their very first drive.

But by all means, you do you.

Franchise QBs are called "franchise" QBs for a reason...they CHANGE THE FRANCHISE.

Even with the Cowboys, the issue is Dak is not good enough. He does, however, have a stranglehold on the org. Just ask Jerry...he's mentioned it in several interviews that Dak is the pied piper and coaches, staff and players follow his lead. Well, what happens when the pied piper loses his voice? Well, what happens when you get a Tom Brady? Or a Mahomes?

It absolutely can change life in Dallas. Jerry doesn't make Dak throw INTs. He also doesn't make the team unready on playoff game day. Those are coaching/QB related...blaming Jerry is lazy.

 

[OmerV]

And Jerry did not drop Romo, the TEAM did. This is well-documented that Jerry wanted Romo put back in, but Garrett told Jerry if he did that he would lose the locker room.

But that was because the team had gotten behind the QB that was with the team through so much success to that point, not because the team had bad feeling about Romo

 

[OGSixshooter]

i mean can’t blame it completely on him. for example that rams playoff game they put up 300 yards on the ground on us. (defense let us down) then that first playoff game vs GB in 2016 dak outplayed Rodgers and who let us down? the defense. then he had a great game against TB in the playoffs. he beat seattle as well…

now let’s not forget that he played bad both times vs the niners and this past game vs GB.

all im saying is dak has this narrative going around of him coming up short in the playoffs. “he disappears”. and it’s not true. i’m no dak fan but some people get so blinded and get brainwashed by the four letter network and this narrative.

Has Dak's playoff performances mirrored his regular season performance or his talk? No. Has he asked to be the highest paid QB in the league? Yes. Is he going to ask to be that again when he shrinks in the playoffs? It appears.

 

[OGSixshooter]

But that was because the team had gotten behind the QB that was with the team through so much success to that point, not because the team had bad feeling about Romo

I won't comment on the team's feelings about Romo...I'll just say that Jerry wanted Romo back in and the team said - INCLUDING WITTEN - said we have to stick with Dak. This is well-documented.

 

[OGSixshooter]

You may be right but if you are. That begs the question. Can he be fixed? And how long do you try to fix him before you give up and get a new model?

No, at this point I think he's broken. Too many times where his worst fears have been confirmed. He can put on a brave face, but I think he may be facing a crisis of confidence going into this season.

 

[OGSixshooter]

This is an excellent observation. Many people are good at something but extremely few individuals are good at everything.

Jones experienced decades of trial-and-error as a general manager. There is zero reason he has not acknowledged to himself he is not a good GM.

The smart business move would be for him to remove himself from football operations decision-making. The best business owners take similar action, namely, installing someone more qualified into an organization to improve in an area that could operate better.

A new pair of eyes can take a different look at the roster and coaching for short and long-term improvements. Those improvements can be both small or large changes in operational philosophy. It would also demonstrate to everyone within the organization that someone else was in charge of oversight, which could translate into a different, more focused perspective for players and coaches.

However, Jones will continue down an atypical road of achieving success in business. He will keep himself within the circle of decision-making, thus polluting eventual annual results. That stubbornness is illogical, especially for someone extremely successful in other business ventures.

All skills are not transferable...despite what many people think. Agreed.

 

[OGSixshooter]

The resident Dak defender will be along any minute to run the playbook. Be ready to be told:
-you aren’t a real fan, you’re a hater.
-you never played football

It's pathetic. Any time I see someone arguing like a child, I see that as waving the white flag.

 

[OGSixshooter]

It seems Dak is like the early Cowboys. They were “couldn’t win the big one” and “next year’s champs”. The frustration and pressure built every year with each season ending loss. Lilly threw his helmet seems like 75 yards after the loss to the Colts. It finally broke with the win over the Dolphins.

It’s similar to Michelson. Record number of 2nd place finishes in Majors, seemingly never to be the winner. Then, he finds a way to win the Masters and he goes on to win 2 more, 2 PGA and a highly unlikely British Open.

I was hopeful he would have his breakthrough moment this year. But when you can't do it when everything is lined up...

I mean next year, who says our line will be relatively healthy? Our WRs? Our RBs won't fumble? Of course, that's when it'll be time to rain down on hell on ANYONE who let Dak down... for the Dak-stains. But the rest of us will be remembering all the times Dak had his full complement of weapons and wet the bed.

 

[Creeper]

Dak isn't broken. He is what he is. But look at the 2 QBs in the NFC title game. Purdy and Goff. Are they there because of their QBs or because of their teams? I think only 1 team in the final 4 can say it is there because of it's QB, and that is KC. But you can't measure every QB against Mahomes, He may be the best all around QB the NFL has ever seen. He is in a class by himself.

If Detroit had no running game and they had to rely on Goff alone to pass them into the NFC title game, do you all think he could do it? The same with Purdy. Take away the 49ers running game and do you think SF could rely on Purdy's arm alone for 17 games and the playoffs?

Dak played this entire season without much of a running game and he had a fantastic season. At the end, teams did not respect the play action fakes. They just teed off on Dak up front and in coverage. If the Cowboys had a running game that would not happen. The Cowboys had no screen game, and draws rarely work. That is not Dak's fault. Get a running game and he will be more successful, even in the playoffs.

 

[BBGTYCOON]

No, at this point I think he's broken. Too many times where his worst fears have been confirmed. He can put on a brave face, but I think he may be facing a crisis of confidence going into this season.

 

[OGSixshooter]

Dak isn't broken. He is what he is. But look at the 2 QBs in the NFC title game. Purdy and Goff. Are they there because of their QBs or because of their teams? I think only 1 team in the final 4 can say it is there because of it's QB, and that is KC. But you can't measure every QB against Mahomes, He may be the best all around QB the NFL has ever seen. He is in a class by himself.

If Detroit had no running game and they had to rely on Goff alone to pass them into the NFC title game, do you all think he could do it? The same with Purdy. Take away the 49ers running game and do you think SF could rely on Purdy's arm alone for 17 games and the playoffs?

Dak played this entire season without much of a running game and he had a fantastic season. At the end, teams did not respect the play action fakes. They just teed off on Dak up front and in coverage. If the Cowboys had a running game that would not happen. The Cowboys had no screen game, and draws rarely work. That is not Dak's fault. Get a running game and he will be more successful, even in the playoffs.

So why does Dak consistently play slow, conservative or horribly in the beginning of EVERY PLAYOFF GAME. We have 7 now...and only ONE did he start off hot...a broken 8-9 Tampa team last year. That's it.

 

[SackMaster]

Franchise QBs are called "franchise" QBs for a reason...they CHANGE THE FRANCHISE.

Even with the Cowboys, the issue is Dak is not good enough. He does, however, have a stranglehold on the org. Just ask Jerry...he's mentioned it in several interviews that Dak is the pied piper and coaches, staff and players follow his lead. Well, what happens when the pied piper loses his voice? Well, what happens when you get a Tom Brady? Or a Mahomes?

It absolutely can change life in Dallas. Jerry doesn't make Dak throw INTs. He also doesn't make the team unready on playoff game day. Those are coaching/QB related...blaming Jerry is lazy.

So let me get this straight ... having the TEAM ready to play is now the QB's job as much as the Coach's job?

I mean, I THOUGHT the QB would be too busy trying prepare themselves to know the offense to the best of their ability so they can not be the reason a team loses (which Dak failed to do), but OBVIOUSLY, Brady and Mahomes are in all the positional and defensive meetings making sure their teammates are prepared for big games and the coaches are putting together good game plans, on both offense AND defense, that will succeed.

I mean, you obviously have proof to back up your "the QB is just as responsible as the Coaches to get the team ready" claim ... right? I'll wait.

And then you throw out that the person that brought in both the QB and the Coach that failed to get the team ready (again, according to you) is somehow not to blame because it's "lazy"?
Wow ... ... some people live in their own little world.

 

[OGSixshooter]

So let me get this straight ... having the TEAM ready to play is now the QB's job as much as the Coach's job?

I mean, I THOUGHT the QB would be too busy trying prepare themselves to know the offense to the best of their ability so they can not be the reason a team loses (which Dak failed to do), but OBVIOUSLY, Brady and Mahomes are in all the positional and defensive meetings making sure their teammates are prepared for big games and the coaches are putting together good game plans, on both offense AND defense, that will succeed.

I mean, you obviously have proof to back up your "the QB is just as responsible as the Coaches to get the team ready" claim ... right? I'll wait.

And then you throw out that the person that brought in both the QB and the Coach that failed to get the team ready (again, according to you) is somehow not to blame because it's "lazy"?
Wow ... ... some people live in their own little world.

Yes. If you are a franchise QB they are paying you for being more than an individual contributor. The fact that you are mockingly laughing when something basic like this escapes you, may indicate that I'm wasting my time.

But I do need to vent...and I can't get at Jerry so...

In your "little world" Dak is responsible for throwing passes. That's a laughably naive view of the franchise QBs job. The franchise QB and head coach - who both get paid the most - are both responsible for having the team ready. Particularly in a playoff game where the star QB/WR are not on the same page in the first drive of the game. I guess that's...Will McClay's fault? Or it's CeeDee's fault, right?

Glad I could set you "straight".

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

So let me get this straight ... having the TEAM ready to play is now the QB's job as much as the Coach's job?

I mean, I THOUGHT the QB would be too busy trying prepare themselves to know the offense to the best of their ability so they can not be the reason a team loses (which Dak failed to do), but OBVIOUSLY, Brady and Mahomes are in all the positional and defensive meetings making sure their teammates are prepared for big games and the coaches are putting together good game plans, on both offense AND defense, that will succeed.

I mean, you obviously have proof to back up your "the QB is just as responsible as the Coaches to get the team ready" claim ... right? I'll wait.

And then you throw out that the person that brought in both the QB and the Coach that failed to get the team ready (again, according to you) is somehow not to blame because it's "lazy"?
Wow ... ... some people live in their own little world.

Im willing to bet, you were among the rabid fans that have, in the past, fervently argued what a great leader dak is.
The reality is, that is more than sky pointing, butt patting, and new nikes for all.

If he is, then yes...he does help the team prepare.

It also helps to score points and not give the other team easy free tds.

 

[OGSixshooter]

Meh, I don't even really count the 49ers losses as "Dak choking." It was more like "Dak getting beat by a better team." And once Pollard went down last year, we were at a serious talent disadvantage, and on the road.

The 49ers are REALLY freaking good. Philly only beat them because Purdy got hurt.

There's a reason SF is on the doorstep every single year, no matter who the QB is.

He threw 2 first half INTs when our D was balling out. One when we were heading down to score or take the lead. And he does it on EASY THROWS. If he was trying to squeeze the ball in 20 yard downfield on 3rd and long late in the game...so be it. No...he throws picks on SHORT EASY THROWS!!! I can't with this QB...

 

[nobody]

He didn't choke last year.

He lit up the Bucs on the road, then ran into the best defense in football.

Sure dude. Keep believing that lie. He choked against the 49ers. He even admitted to playing poorly against them.