Owen Schmitt

[FuzzyLumpkins]

West Virginia fullback Owen Schmitt and UNLV linebacker Beau Bell, both on the North roster, will not play in Saturday's Under Armour Senior Bowl due to knee injuries, according to Oakland Raiders spokesman Mike Taylor. Schmitt injured a knee during Wednesday's workout,

thats salient from that site. probably will be brought up as your excuse when he runs a 4.8.

 

[Hostile]

I ask a question and so that makes me have no credibility? youre a *******.

link? and that site also has the 4.57 BS 40 time. Shall i show footage of him being paced by average MLBers?

For the record, I've seen that 40 time on 5 different sites when reading up on him.

 

[superpunk]

Use the search function. I never once said he was garbage. As a matter a fact, I compared him to Herschel Walker many times. I just said it would be psychotic to trade up to draft McFadden. Hell to draft McFadden in the top five if you had that pick IMO would be psychotic.

I have used the search function. In order to sound witty and knowledgable, your opinion of just where McFadden falls on the sliding scale of suckiness seems to vary, but you're awful fond of comparing him to Julius Jones.

Honestly, I just don't think McFadden is going to be anything close to what he is in college. I see him just like Julius Jones, except he is faster and has a far better offensive line in college. Both fall down upon contact.

I question how good McFadden will be in this league. His only attribute is speed, and we have all seen what that has done for Julius Jones. Almost nothing. Granted he is faster, but so is the NFL. He WILL NOT expose the NFL like he has done in college.

Enough, and I've watched all of his highlight reels for the games that I missed. His highlight reels show him fall down after the first touch. Lets not draft the next Julius Jones please.

I will take Peterson everyday and twice on Sundays. You can have Julius McFadden.

 

[TheCount]

thats salient from that site. probably will be brought up as your excuse when he runs a 4.8.

You're grasping man.

 

[YosemiteSam]

He may lineup at TE and block at TE, but no way he will be very effective as a pass catching TE. He doesn't have enough athleticism to be effective at it at the NFL level. The kid is strong and has a little speed, but his ability to run routes is going to be an issue. NFL LBers will throw a blanket over him.

 

[theogt]

I ask a question and so that makes me have no credibility? youre a *******.

The fact that you don't know **** about him says that you have no credibility on the topic.

link? and that site also has the 4.57 BS 40 time. Shall i show footage of him being paced by average MLBers?

All of the 40 times are provided by National Scouting. I have no idea whether it's accurate or not, but I'd bet good money that he can run in the 4.6s.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He punted 3 times in 2007. You'll notice I never once have brought up his punting. I could care less about that. If something happens to McBriar Nick Folk punted at Arizona and averaged huge numbers.

Try applying thoughts to someone else.

Why don't you tell me how many times he lined up at TE? Are you capable of producing a stat? I won't hold my breath. BTW, if you can't support a stat then you're arguing just for the sake of arguing and have no point.

Actually youre the one touting that he can be a TE. Youre the one with the needto prove it not me.

And of course i argue for the sake of arguing. it is the singlebest way in which to get all of the facets of an issue on the table. argument is a very good thing.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The fact that you don't know **** about him says that you have no credibility on the topic.

whatever theo actually say something meaningful in the context of what were discussing or shut up.

youre once again acting like a petulant 13 year old.

i asked how often he lined up which would indicate i dont know and then you try to use that as me touting something i dont know. thats so weak its unbelievable.

 

[Hostile]

Actually youre the one touting that he can be a TE. Youre the one with the needto prove it not me.

And of course i argue for the sake of arguing. it is the singlebest way in which to get all of the facets of an issue on the table. argument is a very good thing.

For the record, I backed up that claim with a link from a professional scouting service rather than just my own opinion.

I don't need to prove anything, but I could provide other links. I've actually done my homework on this subject.

 

[joseephuss]

I didn't even know who she was until recently, I thought only house wives knew who she was. What do I care what team she's a fan of.

As far as Owen, I think he's got a nasty streak and could be an excellent counter to Brandon Jacobs in short yardage.

I'm actually a big fan of Deon, so if we don't draft Owen, I won't be too dissapointed.

Is there a problem with Barber in short yardage? He seems to score most of his TDs in short yardage.

 

[theogt]

whatever theo actually say something meaningful in the context of what were discussing or shut up.

youre once again acting like a petulant 13 year old.

i asked how often he lined up which would indicate i dont know and then you try to use that as me touting something i dont know. thats so weak its unbelievable.

You don't know **** about a player. Come in and want to discuss something. Talk negatively about a player when you're ill-informed. Act as though he can't do something and are completely taken off-guard by the fact that he actually did play the TE position in college. Then have the audacity to tell me to bring something meaningful to the conversation?

You're incredibly uninformed and your opinion on this matter has no credibility, per usual.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

For the record, I backed up that claim with a link from a professional scouting service rather than just my own opinion.

I don't need to prove anything, but I could provide other links. I've actually done my homework on this subject.

I read that too. how about we talk about his knee injury? it kept him out of one the major scouting events so it wasnt just a ding.

but yeah a scouting service that doesnt use the Wiki 40 time would be appreciated.

 

[theogt]

I read that too. how about we talk about his knee injury? it kept him out of one the major scouting events so it wasnt just a ding.

The game is virtually meaningless. The practices are what's important, particularly the first 3 days of practices and he attended all 3. As to the extent of his injury, it was reported that he "tweaked" it and it wasn't that serious.

but yeah a scouting service that doesnt use the Wiki 40 time would be appreciated.

I told you, NFLDraftScout get their 40 times from National Scouting, which is a service that they and most NFL teams pay for.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You don't know **** about a player. Come in and want to discuss something. Talk negatively about a player when you're ill-informed. Act as though he can't do something and are completely taken off-guard by the fact that he actually did play the TE position in college. Then have the audacity to tell me to bring something meaningful to the conversation?

You're incredibly uninformed and your opinion on this matter has no credibility, per usual.

how am i ill informed other than not knowing he started at TE for 4 games? thats all you got and thats weak as feces.

your schmitt as all world athlete was BS. But you dont see me acting like a teenager over it.

 

[Stash]

. But you dont see me acting like a teenager over it.

I do.

 

[Hostile]

I read that too. how about we talk about his knee injury? it kept him out of one the major scouting events so it wasnt just a ding.

but yeah a scouting service that doesnt use the Wiki 40 time would be appreciated.

Wiki quotes that site, not the other way around. Proof is in the citation.

If I had a player get dinged before the Combines I'd pull him too. Too much on the line.

 

[theogt]

how am i ill informed other than not knowing he started at TE for 4 games? thats all you got and thats weak as feces.

your schmitt as all world athlete was BS. But you dont see me acting like a teenager over it.

Yes, I think starting at both TE and full-back college and excelling at both means that he's likely capable of playing both at the NFL level. That's "all I got" because that's what you asked for. If he played all of his time at TE and only started 4 games at fullback, you'd just be saying "OMG he can't play fullback." The bottom line is that he's a versatile enough athlete that he can play the H-back position and motion out as a TE.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The game is virtually meaningless. The practices are what's important, particularly the first 3 days of practices and he attended all 3. As to the extent of his injury, it was reported that he "tweaked" it and it wasn't that serious.

I told you, NFLDraftScout get their 40 times from National Scouting, which is a service that they and most NFL teams pay for.

Really, they only run the friggin combine and EVERYONE uses those times. Give me a break. National Scouting doesnt have a time on him yet.

That 4.57 time is only found on the Wiki and UWV blogs.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I have used the search function. In order to sound witty and knowledgable, your opinion of just where McFadden falls on the sliding scale of suckiness seems to vary, but you're awful fond of comparing him to Julius Jones.

I've said several times he is better than Jones, but I have not changed my stance in that he goes down like Jones does on contact. (care to prove me wrong?) I can produce Youtube videos of him going down after contact if you like.

DMac, DMac, DMac

Notice how he had so many long runs without anyone getting a hand on him? That won't happen in the NFL. Notice how if anyone got more than a finger tip on him he went down? Yes, just as I said 1,000+ times already.

Now, meet All-Day, All-Day, All-Day.

Yep, Peterson can run threw the grand canyon untouched just like McFadden. Notice how contact doesn't mean the play is over as it does with McFadden? That my friend is because McFadden cannot break tackles. Now, back to my SEC comment. Does anyone still actually believe SEC defenses are anywhere close to what McFadden is going to face in the NFL? I think not. There will be a lot more hands on McFadden once he enters the NFL.

Darren McFadden is not equal to Adrian Peterson. Darren McFadden isn't even on the same planet.

 

[theogt]

Really, they only run the friggin combine and EVERYONE uses those times. Give me a break. National Scouting doesnt have a time on him yet.

That 4.57 time is only found on the Wiki and UWV blogs.

Yes, they do have a time on him. It's the time that's provided on the NFLDraftScout website. You can e-mail them if you want. I've had discussions with them before about their pre-draft numbers like this. They're provided directly from National Scouting who put together numbers for NFL Scouts even before the Combine. Those numbers are based on various events where National Scouting employees attend and time players, even before the draft.