Owen Schmitt

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wiki quotes that site, not the other way around. Proof is in the citation.

If I had a player get dinged before the Combines I'd pull him too. Too much on the line.

No it doesnt.

these are the references.

1. ^ http://westvirginia.rivals.com/barr...script=/content.asp&cid=671555&fid=&tid=&mid=
2. ^ Charleston Daily Mail - WVU Sports - White plans to return to WVU, Slaton not sure
3. ^ NFL Draft Countdown Senior Bowl '08 - 1/21/08 North Practice Report
4. ^ NFL Draft Countdown Senior Bowl '08 - 1/21/08 Player / Team Observations
5. ^ Owen Schmitt Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
6. ^ NFL Draft Countdown Senior Bowl '08 - Weigh-In
7. ^ ESPN - Schmitt making noise in Mobile - NFL
8. ^ NFL Draft Countdown Senior Bowl '08 - 1/23/08 North Practice Report
9. ^ ESPN - Flacco continues to improve; North return men are impressive - NFL
10. ^ NIC: 2008 Official Invite List


They reference Countdown which has him at 4.8.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes, I think starting at both TE and full-back college and excelling at both means that he's likely capable of playing both at the NFL level. That's "all I got" because that's what you asked for. If he played all of his time at TE and only started 4 games at fullback, you'd just be saying "OMG he can't play fullback." The bottom line is that he's a versatile enough athlete that he can play the H-back position and motion out as a TE.

Do you have a link of him starting at TE i did a google and read some game recaps. Saw nothing.

After your natural athlete hyperbole i dont buy your assertions on this guy anymore.

 

[superpunk]

Darren McFadden is not equal to Adrian Peterson. Darren McFadden isn't even on the same planet.

Right. Julius McFadden. I get the picture.

 

[theogt]

Do you have a link of him starting at TE i did a google and read some game recaps. Saw nothing.

NFLDraftScout.com

After your natural athlete hyperbole i dont buy your assertions on this guy anymore.

What natural athlete hyperbole? You really should begin to buy my assertions. I've had to inform you of so many things in this thread.

 

[Hostile]

No it doesnt.

these are the references.

1. ^ http://westvirginia.rivals.com/barr...script=/content.asp&cid=671555&fid=&tid=&mid=
2. ^ Charleston Daily Mail - WVU Sports - White plans to return to WVU, Slaton not sure
3. ^ NFL Draft Countdown Senior Bowl '08 - 1/21/08 North Practice Report
4. ^ NFL Draft Countdown Senior Bowl '08 - 1/21/08 Player / Team Observations
5. ^ Owen Schmitt Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
6. ^ NFL Draft Countdown Senior Bowl '08 - Weigh-In
7. ^ ESPN - Schmitt making noise in Mobile - NFL
8. ^ NFL Draft Countdown Senior Bowl '08 - 1/23/08 North Practice Report
9. ^ ESPN - Flacco continues to improve; North return men are impressive - NFL
10. ^ NIC: 2008 Official Invite List


They reference Countdown which has him at 4.8.

My bad. I saw the citation at the end and hit it and misread the source.

I still think it's likely Wiki got the time from that site, but it is not referenced as I assumed.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

NFLDraftScout.com

What natural athlete hyperbole? You really should begin to buy my assertions. I've had to inform you of so many things in this thread.

It says he lined up on occasion. try harder

Schmitt also lined up at tight end on occasion last season, which enhances his versatility and makes him an H-back candidate in certain offenses.

Again where does it say he started 4 games at TE.

Youve educated me you like to make things up and when I say youre natural athlete you were babbling about how Schmitt was twice the athlete that Anderson was and that he could run circles around him.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

My bad. I saw the citation at the end and hit it and misread the source.

I still think it's likely Wiki got the time from that site, but it is not referenced as I assumed.

i actually thought so too the first time i saw it.

 

[theogt]

It says he lined up on occasion. try harder



Again where does it say he started 4 games at TE.

Youve educated me you like to make things up and when I say youre natural athlete you were babbling about how Schmitt was twice the athlete that Anderson was and that he could run circles around him.

If you're not paying for the service you're not getting the entire page. I'm not sure if it's included in the non-pay page.

But it says -- "In 38 games at West Virginia, Schmitt earned a total of 21 starts, including four at tight end."

And saying that he's a better athlete than Anderson really isn't saying all that much. Anderson's a JAG. Certainly not particularly athletic.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If you're not paying for the service you're not getting the entire page. I'm not sure if it's included in the non-pay page.

But it says -- "In 38 games at West Virginia, Schmitt earned a total of 21 starts, including four at tight end."

And saying that he's a better athlete than Anderson really isn't saying all that much. Anderson's a JAG. Certainly not particularly athletic.

And it also say occasionally. A start at TE is one play at TE and really posits nothing. how about you use the ctrl-c function and post that badboy.

i still say a site that references that bogus 4.57 time is laughable. And until the combine happens, theyre just guessing like the rest.

 

[Hostile]

Adding to the hype. I love this kid.

Never pushed back
In 19 games for West Virginia, Schmitt has never been stopped for a loss. This season the junior is the team's third-leading rusher (181 yards, five TDs) and receiver (88 yards, one TD).

Ask Schmitt, who walked on at West Virginia after a year at Division III Wisconsin-River Falls, what he enjoys the most about his job and without hesitation he says blocking. "It's fun, and it's also fun when you have two talented guys behind you in Pat White and Steve Slaton. Touchdowns are great, don't get me wrong, but I enjoyed the Louisville run, running someone over, or a lead block and pancaking the linebacker. I almost enjoy those more than scoring."

When Slaton sees No. 35 in front of him, his pulse steadies; he knows he can relax and just run. "Running behind him, I don't worry about a linebacker coming to tackle me because I know he's going to get his block," Slaton says. "When he's blocking guys, he's moving them out of the way."

 

[Hoofbite]

250 posts for a FB.....

 

[theogt]

And it also say occasionally. A start at TE is one play at TE and really posits nothing. how about you use the ctrl-c function and post that badboy.

I just did. And I think it's a pretty safe assumption that if he actually started at the TE position, he probably played it more than just a handful of plays.

i still say a site that references that bogus 4.57 time is laughable. And until the combine happens, theyre just guessing like the rest.

Post your evidence that he's slower.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

250 posts for a FB.....

A fB that certain people think is worthwhile spending a 3rd on. Then again he thought RW worth a 1st and a 3rd too. guy has no concept of value.

 

[Hostile]

Of course, he also kept losing his helmet, showing off his trademark Mohawk haircut. Connor joked that the helmet coming off was the result of Schmitt hitting guys so hard.



"You don't have to look around when he hits somebody," Connor said. "You know who it is by the way it sounds."



At one point, Schmitt's helmet popped off while he was blocking Michigan linebacker Shawn Crable. In vintage fashion, Schmitt never even thought about stopping.


"The whistle didn't blow yet, so you keep going," Schmitt said, shrugging.



Used some as a tight end in his last season at West Virginia, Schmitt has the versatility to play a number of positions in the NFL. He showed off his speed in the Mountaineers' 48-28 rout of Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl with a career-long 57-yard touchdown run.

 

[theogt]

A fB that certain people think is worthwhile spending a 3rd on. Then again he thought RW worth a 1st and a 3rd too. guy has no concept of value.

You still don't understand the difference between value and maximum price, do you?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I just did. And I think it's a pretty safe assumption that if he actually started at the TE position, he probably played it more than just a handful of plays.

Post your evidence that he's slower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7IQf1rJf-8&feature=related

Schnitt is in full stride and 4 defenders that have to turn around make up ground very quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrON0qieSDk&feature=related

LB 52 stumbles and paces Schmitt who is full speed. This is after he caught up ten yards on Schmitt.. Nice hyperbole by the announcers.

These are 'great' runs by him too. WVU blocking as a whole is superb.

4.85 time http://www.thefootballexpert.com/fbrankings2008.html
4.85 http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/fb/owenschmitt.html

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You still don't understand the difference between value and maximum price, do you?

actually i do. normally maximum price is denoted by market value not by your moronic made up values based on nothing but your own imagination.

 

[theogt]

actually i do. normally maximum price is denoted by market value not by your moronic made up values based on nothing but your own imagination.

No, maximum price a buyer is willing to pay is not denoted by market value. Otherwise there wouldn't be a concept such as elasticity of demand.

Market value is the equilibrium between the maximum price a buyer is willing to pay and the minimum price a seller is willing to charge.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No, maximum price a buyer is willing to pay is not denoted by market value. Otherwise there wouldn't be a concept such as elasticity of demand.

I realize that. when the buyers maximum price completely eclipses what anyone else would pay then that buyer is making a stupid offer.

hence when the seller only asks for a second and you offer a 1st and a third. its stupid.

If everyone else says the guy should go in the fourth or later and you say pick him in the third. then thats stupid.

see with you its obvious you like to overpay. thats nice wheny ou have no salary cap or budget or limit on picks but when you do have a budget and you overpay its counterproductive.

thankfully you and Mike Ditka dont run this franchise.