Owen Schmitt

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FuzzyLumpkins;1949952 said:
What are you watching. Look at number 25 who has to come all the way across the field and is behind him coming up on him like gangbusters. I didnt come up with that number, two draft sites did.

Keep the mindless overrating up guys.

While I hate to interject and interrupt this fine banter, none of those sites have a real 40, what they have are estimates until the combine, so I wouldn't put too much stock in them.

The guy is a FB though, and 260 lbs, was anyone really expecting him to run a 4.4?
 

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TheCount;1949968 said:
While I hate to interject and interrupt this fine banter, none of those sites have a real 40, what they have are estimates until the combine, so I wouldn't put too much stock in them.

The guy is a FB though, and 260 lbs, was anyone really expecting him to run a 4.4?
I think he'll run a 4.6-4.7.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1949952 said:
What are you watching. Look at number 25 who has to come all the way across the field and is behind him coming up on him like gangbusters. I didnt come up with that number, two draft sites did.

Keep the mindless overrating up guys.

You mean a DB caught a FB! Get the **** outa here. :rolleyes:

Look at the link I posted above, if you think he's slow, you're crazy. Your inability to admit that Schmitt is an outstanding football player is the only mindless activity occurring in this thread.

Your 4.8 time (i'm guessing came from nfl draft countdown which is garbage) is no more reliable than the 4.57 that wikipedia claims he ran. While Draftscouts isn't all that great either, I'm guessing their time is closer to what he'll run at the combine.
 

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tomson75;1949978 said:
You mean a DB caught a FB! Get the **** outa here. :rolleyes:

Look at the link I posted above, if you think he's slow, you're crazy. Your inability to admit that Schmitt is an outstanding football player is the only mindless activity occurring in this thread.

Your 4.8 time (i'm guessing came from nfl draft countdown which is garbage) is no more reliable than the 4.57 that wikipedia claims he ran. While Draftscouts isn't all that great either, I'm guessing their time is closer to what he'll run at the combine.

Im well aware that the DB should catch him but it was made out that it showed his 'blazing speed' and that guy came all the way across the field to catch him effortlessly.

In the second one that was shown, the LB was stumbling behind him and was keeping pace. i have no doubt hes a good blocker and i also have no doubt that if he works hard as reported that he will eventually get the NFL passing game.

Thats not my issue. My issue is that every year theres another FB that people clamor for. This year is no different than it was with Leonard last year. i get sick of they hyperbole over a friggin FB.

iu have people arguing that a FB is jsut as good as a receiver for stretching the field as a TE for Pete's sake.

Hes not going to take away goalline carries from Barber and the only time he would see on the field especially next year is goalline and other obvious running downs.

I realize that hes a fan fave because of him banging his head into things and wearing a mohawk but the way people go on and on about him its like hes the second coming of John Riggins.
 

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silverbear;1949663 said:
Here's hoping you're one of 'em... LOL...

Seriously, ol' buddy, have you considered that maybe part of the problem with our running game this year was the lack of a Moose Johnston-style battering ram leading the tailback into the hole?? And that maybe Jason Garrett would like to find his own Moose to work into the offense??

I wouldn't mind seeing the Boys running out of a true I formation, like in the glory days...

I think most of the problem is that Gurode and Colombo are just average run-blockers, but yeah, that's part of it

there are Moose Johnsons, who you take w/ a high pick, and there are Lorenzo Neals who you don't, it's all about scouting, and I trust that our scouts found one w/ Deon ANderson, and trust that the offensive coaches can maximize his talents, he was coming on strong until his injury, no matter what theo tries to lead you to believe

we also have the makings of quite the 2-TE offense, that Garrett could get creative with, and both TEs are strong blockers, I personally want to get the bang for our buck, since we invested 2, high draft picks at the position

again, I hope you're very disappointed come draft day, which I'm sure you feel the same way about me :) this is nothing against Hillis or Schmitt
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1950141 said:
Im well aware that the DB should catch him but it was made out that it showed his 'blazing speed' and that guy came all the way across the field to catch him effortlessly.

Who described him as having blazing speed? You use terms like "effortlessly" rather loosely don't you think.? I doubt that DB would say as much. Perhaps you should make an attempt to read what's actually being said instead of what you want to read into it. ;)

In the second one that was shown, the LB was stumbling behind him and was keeping pace. i have no doubt hes a good blocker and i also have no doubt that if he works hard as reported that he will eventually get the NFL passing game.

...and Schmitt was moving laterally to avoid being tackled. What's your point? Do you not think that slowed him down? The stumbling linebacker was hanging on for dear life, and likely wouldn't have been able to tackle him had the DB not got in the way. I'm baffled that you can watch that highlight and still insist that he's slow....well, I'm not really that baffled.

Thats not my issue. My issue is that every year theres another FB that people clamor for. This year is no different than it was with Leonard last year. i get sick of they hyperbole over a friggin FB.

iu have people arguing that a FB is jsut as good as a receiver for stretching the field as a TE for Pete's sake.

What's so wrong with clamoring for a FB? I haven't heard of anyone asking to take him with the 22nd pick, have you? The fact is, FB is one of, if not, our weakest positions on offense. It should be addressed.

Brian Leonard, much like Hillis, is kind of a tweener FB/HB. Schmitt is an old-school FB in a modern athlete's body.

If you're so sick of the hyperbole, you could always save yourself the headache, and not open the thread.


Hes not going to take away goalline carries from Barber and the only time he would see on the field especially next year is goalline and other obvious running downs.

He likely won't take many carries away from Barber. What he'd do, is lead him into the endzone...and do it far better than either of our current FB's. You, like myself and everyone else on this board, don't know that he'd only be in there on "obvious running downs". He's shown the versatility to play TE and shown that he has good hands. He could very well become a very important player in our offense.

I realize that hes a fan fave because of him banging his head into things and wearing a mohawk but the way people go on and on about him its like hes the second coming of John Riggins.

Putting words in people's mouths again. You can exaggerate all you want to try and prove your point, I'll take what I've seen the kid do on a playing field...and I'll be right.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1950141 said:
I realize that hes a fan fave because of him banging his head into things and wearing a mohawk but the way people go on and on about him its like hes the second coming of John Riggins.
Maybe he should eat some crickets. Would that win you over?
 

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ctrous25;1950489 said:
Oh it is...will see
No, it really is. There's no argument that Schmitt is 10 times the player Anderson is.
 

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theogt;1950500 said:
No, it really is. There's no argument that Schmitt is 10 times the player Anderson is.


Drafting Schmitt wont happen! Whether you like Schmitt over Anderson is irrevalent..which I dont.. but Anderson is gonna be solid..and we hardly EVER use a FB so why waste a pick on one position we def dont need
 

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ctrous25;1950539 said:
Drafting Schmitt wont happen! Whether you like Schmitt over Anderson is irrevalent..which I dont.. but Anderson is gonna be solid..and we hardly EVER use a FB so why waste a pick on one position we def dont need
Actually, we use a 2-back set about 1/3 of our offensive snaps.

Anderson isn't the starter whether we draft Schmitt or not, so I'm not sure why he's even in the conversation.
 

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ctrous25;1950539 said:
Drafting Schmitt wont happen!

No one said it would, but if he was, it would be an outstanding pick up and would immediately improve our team.

Whether you like Schmitt over Anderson is irrevalent..which I dont..

Are you kidding? You just posted this:

ctrous25;1950431 said:
Yes he is ... just got injured Ill take him over Schmitt

...like fifteen minutes ago.

but Anderson is gonna be solid..

Says who? He was average last year. If that's all it takes to satisfy you then so be it. Not for me.

and we hardly EVER use a FB so why waste a pick on one position we def dont need

Perhaps we don't use one because they suck? Interesting concept, no? If you think taking a guy that would open up gaping holes for Barber and whatever other RB we add is a "wasted pick", then you can't be helped. FB is the weakest position from top to bottom in our offense. forgive me if I'd like to see one that could contribute in the running game, in pass protection, as another threat out of the backfield, and on special teams. My bad. :cool:
 
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