Pacman faces two felony charges

[Mr Cowboy]

No offense to any prosecutors, but they're typically not the best and the brightest. See Nifong.

Jails all over the country are overcrowded with criminals, and more jails are being built all the time...........and that's without the luxury of the best and brightest. I shudder to think what it would be like with competent people as DA's.

Sometime's I wonder if a few of the people who post here aren't members of the "Pacman Posse." Nothing this idiot does is his fualt, or is there anything wrong with it.

 

[fortdick]

E-mail them. I'm sure they'll skip a trial based on your determination. The taxpayers will be overjoyed with the savings.

What are you trying to say? From my point of view, you are syaing that we should not judge Pacman until he is convicted. Is that right?

If so, then I guess that common sense does not have any influence on you. Do you believe that this punk is just another pro athlete being picked on? Has someone been following him around starting these incidents just to set him up? Why does there always seem to be gun fire when he gets in a scuffle? Those dern NRA folks advertising handguns again?

The guy is a gangbanger, and proud of it. It is the image he wants to project. He travels with a possee and responds to everything with threats of murder. He reminds me of the hoods in the HBO series, The Wire. That is the image he values, not one of being a professional football player. The punk has a choice of how he wants to be portrayed to the outside world and he has decided he likes being the gangsta.

I personally believe he should be tossed out of football just for the image. But, if you think that this guy should be given the benfit of the doubt, then that is your perogative. I believe he has lost any such consideration on my part. So, if you please, don't tell me what to think.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Everyone, even the guilty, deserve due process.

Its part of what the country was founded on.

Yep.

Don't like the guy. Did not like him College because he played for a rivalry and acted like a punk.

Don't like the idea of a dog fighting ring and esp considering it further creates more problems for people with good pit bulls.

Would not mind if he got slapped hard if found guilty.

But that is just it...he is afforded due process in the legal world. Does not mean I can not judge him in a court of public opinion.

I bet all of us have judged people in a court of public opinion.

But that does not mean they go to jail, that is what the legal system (flawed or not at times) is set up to determine.

 

[fortdick]

David Roger. Don't know him. He graduated from one of the lowest ranked law schools in the nation. These guys are typically purely politician types. Like I said, I don't know him, but I can make some pretty educated guesses.

So speaketh The Great Cornholio.

OK, so the DA is the bad guy here. You are basing that soley upon the school he went to. Now, who is being unreasonable?

 

[Big Dakota]

Jails all over the country are overcrowded with criminals, and more jails are being built all the time...........and that's without the luxury of the best and brightest. I shudder to think what it would be like with competent people as DA's.

Sometime's I wonder if a few of the people who post here aren't members of the "Pacman Posse." Nothing this idiot does is his fualt, or is there anything wrong with it.

They sure fit the profile, anyway that's what my educated guess tells me

 

[superpunk]

Sometime's I wonder if a few of the people who post here aren't members of the "Pacman Posse."

I feel that way sometimes, too.

Except, replace "PacMan Posse" with "KKK".



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[theogt]

What are you trying to say? From my point of view, you are syaing that we should not judge Pacman until he is convicted. Is that right?

If so, then I guess that common sense does not have any influence on you. Do you believe that this punk is just another pro athlete being picked on? Has someone been following him around starting these incidents just to set him up? Why does there always seem to be gun fire when he gets in a scuffle? Those dern NRA folks advertising handguns again?

The guy is a gangbanger, and proud of it. It is the image he wants to project. He travels with a possee and responds to everything with threats of murder. He reminds me of the hoods in the HBO series, The Wire. That is the image he values, not one of being a professional football player. The punk has a choice of how he wants to be portrayed to the outside world and he has decided he likes being the gangsta.

I personally believe he should be tossed out of football just for the image. But, if you think that this guy should be given the benfit of the doubt, then that is your perogative. I believe he has lost any such consideration on my part. So, if you please, don't tell me what to think.

No, I'm pretty sure they have conclusive evidence he didn't bite the guy. I'm not sure what your common sense tells you about DNA evidence, but I'm sure the Nevada state judge that's assigned the case would love to hear about it.

OK, so the DA is the bad guy here. You are basing that soley upon the school he went to. Now, who is being unreasonable?

No, I don't know that he's the bad guy. I'm simply suggesting that grandstanding is a potential reason for going forward with the case. People were wondering and I offered a reason.

 

[Stash]

I feel that way sometimes, too.

Except, replace "PacMan Posse" with "KKK".



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Always the victim....................

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

David Roger. Don't know him. He graduated from one of the lowest ranked law schools in the nation. These guys are typically purely politician types. Like I said, I don't know him, but I can make some pretty educated guesses.

So speaketh The Great Cornholio.

I don't doubt that he's not a world renowned lawyer. However, he's not the guy who has to make the case. He's got people working for him who do that and I'm fairly certain that they are not all Speds from "Home Builders Technical Vocational Institute and Law School", finished at the bottom of there class. I think you have to wait and see what happens here before you make the assumption that he is incompetant.

 

[Angus]

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June 20, 2007 12:49 PM

Columnist David Climer of The Tennessean has decided that Pacman Jones may indeed be running with the wrong crowd. Climer writes:

"You are judged by the company you keep. You often are influenced by the company you keep. And that's Pacman's biggest problem. He runs with a bad crowd, one that is of his own choosing.

It is a rogue's gallery of old pals, new friends and those who are drawn to him because of his money, his celebrity and his lifestyle.

In the police report from the latest incident on Monday morning, reference is made to Jones' "security detail."

I understand that some athletes are so recognizable that they almost have to have some type of security detail to go out in public. But when deciding who to hire, it's probably best to stay away from old high school buddies, cousins and sycophants.

Terrell Owens might be the most recognizable player in the league, but when he goes out, he brings along one security guard who he hired away from the Cowboys and maybe a friend or two. And when T.O. plays in the Downtown YMCA basketball league, he normally arrives alone.

The thing I'm tired of reading is that Jones surrounds himself with bad people. We spend a lot of time trying to explain why such a gifted athlete would make such poor choices. Well, maybe it's time to acknowledge that Jones might be one of the bad guys.

I think he's already forfeited the opportunity to come back after 10 games this season. And he's a lot closer to a lifetime ban than some of you think.

 

[03EBZ06]

I don't know what these charges will lead to and none of us know what evidence the prosecuting team has against those who were charged to say what the outcome will be, I guess only time will tell.

 

[Big Dakota]

Always the victim....................

Da man be keepin me down.

 

[theogt]

I don't doubt that he's not a world renowned lawyer. However, he's not the guy who has to make the case. He's got people working for him who do that and I'm fairly certain that they are not all Speds from "Home Builders Technical Vocational Institute and Law School", finished at the bottom of there class. I think you have to wait and see what happens here before you make the assumption that he is incompetant.

Wait and see. That's pretty good advice.

 

[superpunk]

Always the victim....................

You don't know about PacMan's diabeetus.

Even bad people can be victims of maladjusted blood sugar and overzealous prosecution.

 

[fortdick]

No need to guess. We have forensic evidence showing conclusively that he didn't do it.

The absence of evidence? That is exoneration? The absence of DNA evidence does not refute the testimony of eyewitnesses.

Have you ever had any experience in the criminal justice system, or are you basing your opinions of what you have seen on TV? Those show, btw, are full of crap. DNA evidence is not as strong as CSI makes it out to be. Any kind of contamination and the sample is worthless.

In the most recent incident, the guy that reported hearing Pacman threaten to go get his gun was an off duty cop. Besides a DA in Las Vegas that you discredit because you claim he graduated from Dr. Evil law school, what are you going to say to discredit this witness? A cop hear dhim say it, the a while later, his posse comes by and shoots the place up.

I don;t need DNA evidence on this one.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes they didn't find any DNA evidence at the scene, those charges won't hold up in court...

That was only part of the charges coming forward he still incited the situation and they are not going to drop it because his bite marks and DNA came back negative. If you notice they are saying 2 felony charges

 

[theogt]

I don't know what these charges will lead to and none of us know what evidence the prosecuting team has against those who were charged to say what the outcome will be, I guess only time will tell.

Difference: I'm not claiming I know something to be true.

 

[Vintage]

You don't know about PacMan's diabeetus.

Even bad people can be victims of maladjusted blood sugar and overzealous prosecution.

BTW: That is probably one of the funniest things on Youtube.

 

[Stash]

You don't know about PacMan's diabeetus.

Even bad people can be victims of maladjusted blood sugar and overzealous prosecution.

What's the over/under on how many times that happens?

:laugh2:

 

[theogt]

The absence of evidence? That is exoneration? The absence of DNA evidence does not refute the testimony of eyewitnesses.

Have you ever had any experience in the criminal justice system, or are you basing your opinions of what you have seen on TV? Those show, btw, are full of crap. DNA evidence is not as strong as CSI makes it out to be. Any kind of contamination and the sample is worthless.

In the most recent incident, the guy that reported hearing Pacman threaten to go get his gun was an off duty cop. Besides a DA in Las Vegas that you discredit because you claim he graduated from Dr. Evil law school, what are you going to say to discredit this witness? A cop hear dhim say it, the a while later, his posse comes by and shoots the place up.

I don;t need DNA evidence on this one.

Yes, I've worked in the court system. I'm glad you don't need DNA evidence.

And I do hope you share these opinions during voir dire if you're ever called for jury duty. If you want to get immediately struck from a jury, these are great opinions to share with the court.