Pacman wants to be Cowboy
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Wow, all this from an article that said Pacman wanted to be a cowboy.
Until I hear that Tennessee wants to trade him, it's not worth arguing about, however I will give my .02 on the subject.
Pacman was starting to look like a good CB and PR, both of which we drastically need. Even if he could be had for cheap, meaning low draft pick and incentive contract, I don't know that you could make that trade.
First off, we aren't talking about an all world corner, we are talking about a corner that was just starting to find his way. He didn't have any INTs his first year, 4 INTs his second and then sat all of last year.
Second, we don't know what kind of shape he is in at this point and whether he would need time to acclimate himself back into the NFL after the years suspension.
Third, his off the field actions are serious cause for concern. Sure, we could put it in his contract that should he do something wrong we would be able to release him without serious cap ramifications, but the timing of a suspension or release could have a huge impact upon our team. Let's say we make it to the Superbowl but he pulls a Eugene Robinson....
Trading for this guy would be a HUGE gamble, which could turn out ok but history is not in his favor. Why not just spend the extra money getting a better option in free agency?
Until I hear that Tennessee wants to trade him, it's not worth arguing about, however I will give my .02 on the subject.
Pacman was starting to look like a good CB and PR, both of which we drastically need. Even if he could be had for cheap, meaning low draft pick and incentive contract, I don't know that you could make that trade.
First off, we aren't talking about an all world corner, we are talking about a corner that was just starting to find his way. He didn't have any INTs his first year, 4 INTs his second and then sat all of last year.
Second, we don't know what kind of shape he is in at this point and whether he would need time to acclimate himself back into the NFL after the years suspension.
Third, his off the field actions are serious cause for concern. Sure, we could put it in his contract that should he do something wrong we would be able to release him without serious cap ramifications, but the timing of a suspension or release could have a huge impact upon our team. Let's say we make it to the Superbowl but he pulls a Eugene Robinson....
Trading for this guy would be a HUGE gamble, which could turn out ok but history is not in his favor. Why not just spend the extra money getting a better option in free agency?
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that would be like swallowing a grenade
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Vintage;1913807 said:
Let me preface this by saying that the smart thing for him is to let sleeping dogs lie here and move on.
However, if he wanted to completely clear his name in this incident (assuming he's blameless here) he could probably sue the woman for slander or defamation of character or something along those lines.
Most likely, though, he paid her off to drop the charges.
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NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A woman is seeking an arrest warrant against suspended Tennessee Titans cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones, claiming he punched her at an Atlanta strip club.
Fulton County Magistrate Court officials told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Wanda S. Jackson asked for the warrant after a Jan. 3 altercation at the Body Tap Strip Club.
Jackson, an attorney, says in her filing that she was in the club's office when an angry Jones accused managers of stealing his money and bracelet.
"I was sitting in the office and he lunged at me numerous times in an effort to do grave bodily harm," Jackson wrote in the warrant application filed Jan. 7. "Veronica Jones, an owner, went into the hall to deal with a member of his entourage. I followed to gawk. He was in the hall, surprisingly reached over or around a security guard and sucker punched me in my left eye."
Jackson told police the next day she was at the club because she was handling a divorce case that involved Adam Jones. No one could be reached Tuesday afternoon at the club's listed phone number.
"Mr. Jones, according to Ms. Jackson, was at the Body Tap Club and she and Mr. Jones got into an argument at the club and Mr. Jones struck Ms. Jackson in the left eye, causing a bruise around her left eye," according to the police report.
Jackson did not immediately return a phone message requesting comment. Jones' attorney Manny Arora said no warrant has been issued against his client.
Norris Arnold, a court support manager for Fulton County, said a magistrate judge will review Jackson's application on Feb. 8 to determine whether the warrant will be filed.
Last month, Jones pleaded no contest to a disorderly conduct charge related to a strip club shooting in Las Vegas that left club manager Tommy Urbanski paralyzed.
Also Tuesday night, the NFL filed a motion in Nevada to be dismissed from a lawsuit by Urbanski.
A judge already dismissed the Titans from the suit last Wednesday, saying the team couldn't be responsible for Jones' actions at the Minxx Gentleman's Club last Feb. 19.
The lawsuit filed Oct. 19 sought unspecified damages from Jones, the NFL, the Titans and the owners of Harlem Knights, a Houston strip club that rented the Las Vegas club for the party the night of the shooting, during NBA All-Star weekend.
A hearing for the NFL's motion is scheduled for Feb. 20 in Clark County District Court.
Clark County District Attorney David Roger said the new accusations could affect his criminal case against Jones. With his plea, Jones agreed to a year probation, random drug testing, community service and anger management classes.
"We have negotiated with Mr. Jones in exchange for his assistance in an attempted murder case. This doesn't help his case if he is found guilty," Roger told The Associated Press on Tuesday.
Jones has been arrested six times since being drafted sixth overall in 2005, including two arrests in Georgia in 2006 that the Titans did not learn about until 2007. Jones was suspended for the 2007 season by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in April.
In April, Jones was suspended by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell for the entire 2007 season for his role in inciting the Las Vegas incident.
At the time of his suspension, one of the changes Jones told Goodell he intended to make was to stay out of clubs and to avoid situations in which he might be compromised. Goodell has said that he has apprised Jones that he will ultimately be judged by his actions, not his words.
In mid-December, the NFL rejected an appeal by the players' union on behalf of Jones to have him reinstated for the final two games of the regular season.
"As we have said throughout his suspension, we will not comment on Adam Jones until he is reinstated by the commissioner," the Titans said in a statement Tuesday afternoon.
Jones was allowed to go to the Titans' headquarters once their season ended with an AFC wild-card loss in San Diego on Jan. 6. But the NFL plans to review his status following the Pro Bowl.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
He can't even do what he promised and right now it is not even a sure bet that he will get reinstated.
Fulton County Magistrate Court officials told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Wanda S. Jackson asked for the warrant after a Jan. 3 altercation at the Body Tap Strip Club.
Jackson, an attorney, says in her filing that she was in the club's office when an angry Jones accused managers of stealing his money and bracelet.
"I was sitting in the office and he lunged at me numerous times in an effort to do grave bodily harm," Jackson wrote in the warrant application filed Jan. 7. "Veronica Jones, an owner, went into the hall to deal with a member of his entourage. I followed to gawk. He was in the hall, surprisingly reached over or around a security guard and sucker punched me in my left eye."
Jackson told police the next day she was at the club because she was handling a divorce case that involved Adam Jones. No one could be reached Tuesday afternoon at the club's listed phone number.
"Mr. Jones, according to Ms. Jackson, was at the Body Tap Club and she and Mr. Jones got into an argument at the club and Mr. Jones struck Ms. Jackson in the left eye, causing a bruise around her left eye," according to the police report.
Jackson did not immediately return a phone message requesting comment. Jones' attorney Manny Arora said no warrant has been issued against his client.
Norris Arnold, a court support manager for Fulton County, said a magistrate judge will review Jackson's application on Feb. 8 to determine whether the warrant will be filed.
Last month, Jones pleaded no contest to a disorderly conduct charge related to a strip club shooting in Las Vegas that left club manager Tommy Urbanski paralyzed.
Also Tuesday night, the NFL filed a motion in Nevada to be dismissed from a lawsuit by Urbanski.
A judge already dismissed the Titans from the suit last Wednesday, saying the team couldn't be responsible for Jones' actions at the Minxx Gentleman's Club last Feb. 19.
The lawsuit filed Oct. 19 sought unspecified damages from Jones, the NFL, the Titans and the owners of Harlem Knights, a Houston strip club that rented the Las Vegas club for the party the night of the shooting, during NBA All-Star weekend.
A hearing for the NFL's motion is scheduled for Feb. 20 in Clark County District Court.
Clark County District Attorney David Roger said the new accusations could affect his criminal case against Jones. With his plea, Jones agreed to a year probation, random drug testing, community service and anger management classes.
"We have negotiated with Mr. Jones in exchange for his assistance in an attempted murder case. This doesn't help his case if he is found guilty," Roger told The Associated Press on Tuesday.
Jones has been arrested six times since being drafted sixth overall in 2005, including two arrests in Georgia in 2006 that the Titans did not learn about until 2007. Jones was suspended for the 2007 season by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in April.
In April, Jones was suspended by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell for the entire 2007 season for his role in inciting the Las Vegas incident.
At the time of his suspension, one of the changes Jones told Goodell he intended to make was to stay out of clubs and to avoid situations in which he might be compromised. Goodell has said that he has apprised Jones that he will ultimately be judged by his actions, not his words.
In mid-December, the NFL rejected an appeal by the players' union on behalf of Jones to have him reinstated for the final two games of the regular season.
"As we have said throughout his suspension, we will not comment on Adam Jones until he is reinstated by the commissioner," the Titans said in a statement Tuesday afternoon.
Jones was allowed to go to the Titans' headquarters once their season ended with an AFC wild-card loss in San Diego on Jan. 6. But the NFL plans to review his status following the Pro Bowl.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
He can't even do what he promised and right now it is not even a sure bet that he will get reinstated.
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dallasfaniac;1913808 said:
HARUMPH....HARUMPH...HARUMPH!
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While the State may have a tough road to hoe and it's not very practical, they can still pursue criminal charges even if the victim wants to drop the charges. It happens regularly in assault/family violence cases.Danny White;1913824 said:
If the State feels they can prove their case, they will oftentimes go forward with it.
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I'd LOVE to see somebody of his caliber/talent in Dallas, but...no.
Dallas has taken many chances on iffy players. Calvin Hill has been one of the best hirings Jerry has ever done. But I think even Pacman may be beyond Calvin's, Terrell's or anybody else's help.
Dallas has taken many chances on iffy players. Calvin Hill has been one of the best hirings Jerry has ever done. But I think even Pacman may be beyond Calvin's, Terrell's or anybody else's help.
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EPL0c0;1913879 said:
True like Tank Johnson but Tank actually did things to prove he was turning over a new leaf. He did exactly what the league asked of him he sold off the guns and has stayed out of trouble. Pacman can't make that claim.
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Pacman is a great return man and a very good CB, I would love to see someone of his ability here, but his constant trouble making off the field is a huge problem - he very well might change if he get's to a team that he really wants to play or, but we don't know.
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Seven;1914043 said:
Fugitives?
Well... who besides Tank?
I would use a different word.
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Interesting thread! All 18 pages of it (that I wish I could get my 1 hour back), however...
I am still so pissed at "Facemask" Reeves and "Best Hands- Fair Catch" Crayton that PacThug just might be what the doctor ordered.
Replace Crayton with R. Williams from the Lions, get rid of Reeves for Pacman, and show the World that, yes, America's Team is willing to give a knucklehead a 9th chance in life. Don't "keep the man down"...
Jerry has drilled many holes in the ground to get rich...some came up dry, some hit oil. He lost on Alonzo Spellman, he lost on Demitirus Underwood, and he lost on others...but he did hit on some...like T.O., Hamlin, and Romo.
I say if PacThug were to be signed to the Cowboys I would have to root for him (yuck)...but I would have to root for him. However, IMO...if Jerry would sign him and he still did not get it? YOU THINK PEOPLE HATE THE COWBOY NOW, or laugh at the Cowboys now? Huh!!!
If Jerry wants him then as a fan of the Cowboys? I have no choice but to wish the idiot "good luck", I will be watching...again!! :bang2:
I am still so pissed at "Facemask" Reeves and "Best Hands- Fair Catch" Crayton that PacThug just might be what the doctor ordered.
Replace Crayton with R. Williams from the Lions, get rid of Reeves for Pacman, and show the World that, yes, America's Team is willing to give a knucklehead a 9th chance in life. Don't "keep the man down"...
Jerry has drilled many holes in the ground to get rich...some came up dry, some hit oil. He lost on Alonzo Spellman, he lost on Demitirus Underwood, and he lost on others...but he did hit on some...like T.O., Hamlin, and Romo.
I say if PacThug were to be signed to the Cowboys I would have to root for him (yuck)...but I would have to root for him. However, IMO...if Jerry would sign him and he still did not get it? YOU THINK PEOPLE HATE THE COWBOY NOW, or laugh at the Cowboys now? Huh!!!
If Jerry wants him then as a fan of the Cowboys? I have no choice but to wish the idiot "good luck", I will be watching...again!! :bang2: