Parnell to Jags

Kaiser said:
Exceptions don't make the rule.

Zach Martin was paid 1.6M last year, therefore All Pro linemen should only be paid 1.6M. See how easy that is?
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He is on a rookie contract. Parnell is not some rookie, he has been around he has been cut from 2 teams when he has had the chance to compete for the job he lost. Now you want to say because Jacksonville is stupid that means all of a sudden Parnell is a very good player? BS That makes no sense what so ever. If a guy can't win the job and he has not then how can you claim he is better. Better is determined on the field where it counts not in some imagination or some poor contract offered by a joke of a team
 
Kaiser said:
Absolutely, I'm sure Free took less money and Parnell was overpaid. But that doesn't account for Parnell getting twice as much money. If Free was as good as this Forum makes him (and not the injury risk this Forum ignores) his agent would have gotten him a bigger contract with more money guaranteed.
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Unless he wanted to be here and both sides let it be known that they wanted the relationship to continue. Much like Free did when he reworked his last contract. He's likely got a good year or two left. Why uproot his family for a few dollars more elsewhere?

I'm not beating a dead horse, I mostly think its funny that XWalker had to listen to so many people say Parnell completely sucked and when Parnell gets twice as much guaranteed money no one can acknowledge he was right on Parnell's development.
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Just because a bottom-feeder with tons of cap money grossly overpaid doesn't mean Parnell is good. It just means the Jaguars overpaid. And I don't recall anyone saying "Parnell sucked", just that they preferred Free. For all of the reasons why the Cowboys kept him over Parnell.

I fully expect the Cowboys to plan on Free for a year or two while developing his replacement. And they preferred that scenario over a long-term commitment to Parnell.
 
All in all, remember the way things are in Dallas. If they want to keep somebody, they will find a way to do so.

You can say a lot about who we have given money to and kept, but short of a few isolated examples, when players leave, they do not make Dallas regret it that often.
 
I would rather have Parnell then an aging Free.

Good pickup for the Jags.
 
stasheroo said:
And I don't recall anyone saying "Parnell sucked", just that they preferred Free.
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Really?

I'll let this topic die, I've made my point. But you can't compare a true free agency situation to Free's contract being negotiated down. Its like comparing Carr in this offseason and the offseason where he signed here.

After 2012 Free was going to be cut and renegotiated down to the exact amount of his guaranteed money. He didn't take less, he took the minimum cut possible because he knew he couldn't make more elsewhere (like DeMarcus Ware did). For Dallas the cost to keep him and bring him to camp was the same cost as cutting him - so it represent a free look at Free in 2013. Its an apples and oranges comparison to this offseason.
 
From Walterfootball:

http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/images/fball/jaguarsb_logo.gif Jaguars sign OT Jermey Parnell (5 years, $32M; $13M guaranteed): D Grade
So, let me get this straight: Doug Free, who is the better, more-proven right tackle who played for Dallas last year, received just as much overall money in his contract as what Jermey (not Jeremy) Parnell is seeing in guarantees. Huh?

Someone needs to send a raven to Jacksonville to let general manager David Caldwell know that the right tackle position, contrary to his belief, is not that important of a position. There's absolutely no reason the Jaguars should've spent this much money on a player who has just seven career starts. Sure, Parnell has looked good when thrust into action, but he's an unproven commodity.

Contracts like this are always scary. The Jaguars truly don't know what they're getting in Parnell. Maybe he'll work out, but he has no track record of success. In fact, the one pattern here is a negative one, and it's that bottom-tier teams that sign free agents like this away from superior franchises almost always end up with busts. Sure, it works on occasion, but the probability that this signing won't work out is extremely high.
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Ole Walter lost me when he said the RT isn't all that important. He's probably one of these must build around cornerbacks guys.
 
Risen Star said:
Ole Walter lost me when he said the RT isn't all that important. He's probably one of these must build around cornerbacks guys.
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Well, if you look around the league, most are not high draft choices or given nearly the money that a left tackle is. The point he is making is that they basically paid decent LT money for a RT.
 
Risen Star said:
Ole Walter lost me when he said the RT isn't all that important. He's probably one of these must build around cornerbacks guys.
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I think RT tend to be less important than some of the other spots along the OL that tend to make bigger money. No position in football is unimportant just some more important.
 
Kaiser said:
Really?

I'll let this topic die, I've made my point. But you can't compare a true free agency situation to Free's contract being negotiated down. Its like comparing Carr in this offseason and the offseason where he signed here.

After 2012 Free was going to be cut and renegotiated down to the exact amount of his guaranteed money. He didn't take less, he took the minimum cut possible because he knew he couldn't make more elsewhere (like DeMarcus Ware did). For Dallas the cost to keep him and bring him to camp was the same cost as cutting him - so it represent a free look at Free in 2013. Its an apples and oranges comparison to this offseason.
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OK, but you equally can't say that because the Jaguars grossly overpaid that Parnell is somehow a better player.

The Cowboys kept the player they wanted to at the preferred rate. They deserve credit for that.
 
The Jags signed a JAG. A match made in heaven.

I only wish the skins would have wasted that much cap space on him to be a starter.
 
Ummm...doug free's contract and jeremy parnell's contract both imply that last year they were comparable players (with Free a little better). The differences are about AGE. Free is only going to get worse. Parnell is going to get better.
 
stasheroo said:
OK, but you equally can't say that because the Jaguars grossly overpaid that Parnell is somehow a better player.

The Cowboys kept the player they wanted to at the preferred rate. They deserve credit for that.
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They do, but I can say Parnell is considered a better player going forward because he got twice what Free did. Overpayment by the Jags and Free giving a discount doesn't account for Free getting half what Parnell did. Its a competitive bidding process and those two factors can account for 10%, 20%, event 30%. But not a contract that is 100% more for a player that half this forum was saying wasn't even a starter in the NFL.
 
How come his biggest supporter, Bill Callahan, lost out on Parnell?

The top RTs in football are makin $7M per year.

Parnell with his 7 career starts is comparable to that?

Not to mention the Jags have to spend the most money in FA to get to the cap floor requirement.
 
Parnell was junk on a stick in the Green Bay game. Just awful.

I'll take the 4th rounder and be happy, but Dallas needs to address this swing tackle spot.

Of course, Zack Martin can play it if needed.
 
What a terrible off-season. Parnell is gone and Matt Johnson retired.
 
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