Pat McQuistan challenge Kyle Kosier for the starting left guard spot?

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Bob Sacamano;1516434 said:
if bringing a wrong point of view is bringing something to the discussion

I'm glad I don't then

edit: not talking about you theo, although I would put Gurode 1 or 2 spots higher than 4th best lineman on the team, just Fuzzy, who's been wrong for a good while now

CrazyCowboy in one post normally posits more than you do in 5. You either come into an ongoing discussion and take a shot at someone like you did to theo here or you blather some uninformed nonsense. But please carry on.
 

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Not sure why Kosier is getting so much love on this sight. Other sights I've visited overall don't see him in the same light.

Kosier isn't even quite average IMO. Close but not quite there. We paid him really good money - he should be doing better. Flo is better. Gurode is better. Rivera is not, but then he was awful. He is about on the same level as Columbo.

Kosier would be a fantastic backup - but as a starter he is just meh.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1516440 said:
CrazyCowboy in one post normally posits more than you do in 5. You either come into an ongoing discussion and take a shot at someone like you did to theo here or you blather some uninformed nonsense. But please carry on.

habeus corpus
 

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Dhragon;1516442 said:
Not sure why Kosier is getting so much love on this sight. Other sights I've visited overall don't see him in the same light.

probably due to the fact that he's our best pulling lineman, and we averaged the highest yards per carry running to the left-side, 4.9
 

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Dhragon;1516442 said:
Not sure why Kosier is getting so much love on this sight. Other sights I've visited overall don't see him in the same light.

Kosier isn't even quite average IMO. Close but not quite there. We paid him really good money - he should be doing better. Flo is better. Gurode is better. Rivera is not, but then he was awful. He is about on the same level as Columbo.

Kosier would be a fantastic backup - but as a starter he is just meh.
Who are you comparing to Colombo? I can't tell if you're comparing Kosier or Rivera.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1516445 said:
habeus corpus

and what exactly does that prove? all i know is that even after that entire discussion you still had no idea what it meant.
 

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Dhragon;1516442 said:
Not sure why Kosier is getting so much love on this sight. Other sights I've visited overall don't see him in the same light.

Kosier isn't even quite average IMO. Close but not quite there. We paid him really good money - he should be doing better. Flo is better. Gurode is better. Rivera is not, but then he was awful. He is about on the same level as Columbo.

Kosier would be a fantastic backup - but as a starter he is just meh.

I think you'll find that, in most cases, the facts and opinions expressed on this particular cowboys site are generally more educated than most. Kosier was a very consistent lineman for us last year...he deserves credit for that.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1516450 said:
and what exactly does that prove? all i know is that even after that entire discussion you still had no idea what it meant.

:laugh2: I brought up the definition which totally made your argument for it futile

I would love to keep fighting you, but I'm not going to get into it anymore, everyone knows you just throw **** against the wall and talk in circular logic
 

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Bob Sacamano;1516460 said:
:laugh2: I brought up the definition which totally made your argument for it futile

I would love to keep fighting you, but I'm not going to get into it anymore, everyone knows you just throw **** against the wall and talk in circular logic

you said habeus corpus is the same as due process right?

your ad hominems are nice but lets go over what happened.

The new conduct policy came out and i said that i didnt like it because it basically ignored habeus corpus. i then left to go by my store. i come back and see that Hos had stepped in and said that i was thinking of due process because habeus corpus was a writ that meant to have a prisoner appear in court insuring due process and not due process in and of itself. that sparked a debate that i was no part of that went on most of the night from what i understand.

That was correct by the way. I was indeed wrong in using it as if they were synonymous.

Fast forward to our Vick threads and you throw that out there as if that has any bearing on the discussion at hand trying to use it as an example of me not knowing what i am talking about. i point out the aforementioned and you pipe in and say that habeus corpus is the same thing as due process and then link the definition. you say that because habeus corpus insures due process that it is due process. I believe the last thing i sad to you was a warranty insures performance but that does not make a warranty performance. it was that or something of that nature.

So I ask you summer in all that what do you think that you are proving when you say habeus corpus other than as usual you are completely without a clue?
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1516490 said:
you said habeus corpus is the same as due process right?

do both ensure the right to a speedy trial? yes or no?


FuzzyLumpkins said:
That was correct by the way. I was indeed wrong in using it as if they were synonymous.

you used habeus corpus because you thought PacMan's right to a speedy trial was being taken away from him, that's where you were wrong, or that's what you implied when you threw habeus corpus out there, so it doesn't matter if you threw habeus corpus out there, or due process, you would still be wrong, because Goodell didn't lock up Pacman in some sort of NFL jail in the old Vet

FuzzyLumpkins said:
So I ask you summer in all that what do you think that you are proving when you say habeus corpus other than as usual you are completely without a clue?

all it does is show that you throw **** against the wall and dont' really know what you're talking about half the time
 

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Bob Sacamano;1516494 said:
do both ensure the right to a speedy trial? yes or no?




you used habeus corpus because you thought PacMan's right to a speedy trial was being taken away from him, that's where you were wrong

but you didn't know what habeus corpus was, so you were just throwing a legal term out there that you were totally in the dark about



all it does is show that you throw **** against the wall and dont' really know what you're talking about half the time

And for a term that i didnt know what it meant i certainly chose a word that is closely linked to what i did mean. its not as if i said goodell was avoiding subrogation or something.

x insuring y does not mean x = y.

for example a warranty insures a product. that does not make a warranty the product.

a sound eductation insures not being clueless like summer. that doesnt make a sound eduction not being clueless like summer.

auto insurance insures your automobile. that does not make auto insurance an automobile.

Goodell by not waiting for due process to determine guilt and suspending them means that he is ignoring due process and assigning blame. So yes he is indeed ignoring due process.

look summer, i realize that you dont like me but this most recent attempt to discredit me with is pretty sad.
 

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and i like how you are unable to come up with an example of circular logic but acccuse me of it.
 

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YES!!!! Mcquistan is really strong, and as good as Kosier is at pulling and the athletic stuff, he is pretty much the odd man out in terms of this line; All of our other lineman are pretty strong (or at least stronger than Kosier, and Mcquistan is no slouch in that department IMO.


Kosier is along the lines of Al jonhson, an athletic and quick lineman. Maybe if they were on a team like Denver that could use them in a zone-blocking scheme they would perform great, but Kosier doesn't fit into what this line seems to be built for.

Let the best man win, but I am gunning for Mcquistan.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1516501 said:
And for a term that i didnt know what it meant i certainly chose a word that is closely linked to what i did mean. its not as if i said goodell was avoiding subrogation or something.

x insuring y does not mean x = y.

for example a warranty insures a product. that does not make a warranty the product.

that example only works if both the warrant and product are going to something

FuzzyLumpkins said:
a sound eductation insures not being clueless like summer. that doesnt make a sound eduction not being clueless like summer.

that makes no sense

FuzzyLumpkins said:
auto insurance insures your automobile. that does not make auto insurance an automobile.

but both give you a right to drive on the roads and highway, right?

FuzzyLumpkins said:
Goodell by not waiting for due process to determine guilt and suspending them means that he is ignoring due process and assigning blame. So yes he is indeed ignoring due process.

:laugh2: wow, you do know due process only applies to a court of law right, that ensures whether you go to jail or not? in order for Goodell to have ignored due process, means he would have had to lock-up PacMan in some sort of NFL jail in some stadium somewhere, due process does not apply in this instance, it can't, so you would still be wrong

FuzzyLumpkins said:
look summer, i realize that you dont like me but this most recent attempt to discredit me with is pretty sad.

you discredit yourself everytime you put your fingers to the key-pad
 

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Gurode was our best O-lineman last season, period.
The coaches have said it, and they break down the plays everyday all day long, it is their job.

Besides, Gurode was the only Lineman we had in the pro bowl.
Colombo was next and then came Kosier and FLO, in a tie.
 

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Yakuza Rich;1516413 said:
Well, I haven't read this yet. If this were to happen, then my guess is from a blocking perspective Dallas wants more straight line blockers on the interior and more mobile offensive tackles. Last year Flozell was Flozell, but Kosier and Rivera are more known for their mobility (well, when Rivera was healthy) and pulling and trapping. I think Kosier can have a really big season if he stays healthy. Last year his problems came with blitz and stunt recognition and considering this was his first year with the O-Line, it's likely he'll get better at that part of the game. I guess I'm not really buying into Kosier challenging Flozell at this point.




YAKUZA



I'm pretty sure that it should say that McQuistan is challenging Kosier for the starting LG spot, not the starting LT spot. Unless for some reason we decided to move Flozell in and put Koser on the outside :confused:
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1516503 said:
and i like how you are unable to come up with an example of circular logic but acccuse me of it.

your little argument w/ Adam, and I meant you run around in circles, sorry
 
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