Payton will get his...

[dbair1967]

wrong again about the talent but at least you threw in a "probably" this time.

you think the Saints have more talent than us? really?

David

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

he also did an onside kick in a home playoff game in 1993 vs GB

it didnt work as FYI...but he took the risk

David

What was the score at that time?

 

[dbair1967]

What was the score at that time?

does it matter? the point was it was a huge risk he took and he took it to alter the game

Payton did the same thing...it was a ballsy call and it worked

David

 

[chinch]

he also did an onside kick in a home playoff game in 1993 vs GB

it didnt work as FYI...but he took the risk

David

golly geee... he took a risk.... with HOFers #8/#22/#88/#84 & probowl lined defense in his pocket to bail him out too.

GET A GRIP.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

does it matter? the point was it was a huge risk he took and he took it to alter the game

Payton did the same thing...it was a ballsy call and it worked

David

Yeah it does matter.

If Parcells did an onside kick and it didn't work you would be on him right away. The fact a play worked does not make it the right call.

 

[Screw The Hall]

I don't recall him ever taking that kind of risk. Just because it worked does not make it the right call.

I agree with the just because it works doesn't make it a good call statement ... but just because a call is risky doesn't make it the wrong call either.

I hate two point conversions whether they are made or not before the game dictates their inclusion. But I thought this call was genius from the minute it occurred.

Jimmy was the king of well timed risks by the way.

 

[dbair1967]

Yeah it does matter.

If Parcells did an onside kick and it didn't work you would be on him right away. The fact a play worked does not make it the right call.

I dont recall ever being on any coach who tried to coach aggressively...Parcells goes for it alot on 4th down and I usually like it

Payton took a gamble tonight...but again, their defense was stoning us and they had all the momentum...I'msure their coaches saw something on film of our kickoff returns that made them think they had a good chance, and coupled with the timing of the call they probably felt good about it

David

 

[smarta5150]

We get out coached on that play and we he is classless ??

We were down 17 with plenty of time left.

He out-smarted our coaching staff and surprised us.

If he called a flea-flicker at that point would that be classles?

Gimme a break.

 

[shrike3000]

Saints fan here. I know I am totally biased but here it is anyway.

I think Payton was brilliant for the Onside kick. We were ahead by 18, with plenty of time left. I kept telling everyone I was watching the game with, this game is not done, the Cowboys are a dangerous team and if we don't put them away we can still lose this. Sure enough Payton goes for the throat and gets the onside kick. Can you honestly tell me that with 20 something minutes left in the game you were not thinking comeback?

You can be sure Romo and Parcells were. Sean Payton knew that, and he knows that our Defense cannot hold up to the test of your offense for too long. We did amazing on defense tonight, mostly because we kept your offense off the field so long. Had your offense had more TOP you would have been able to really start to pick us apart, beleive me, we have many holes on D that can be exposed.

The best Defense (especially with ours) is a good Offense.

The kneeling was just a sign of respect, I don't see what other option he had. Your defense had given up at that point and if we ran the ball one more time it would have gone in the end zone.

 

[sillycon]

The onside kick was fine. There was plenty of time in the game, and Romo could have brought us back. Stop being so sensitive.

I don't quite get the hate Sean gets for that onside kick. It was still EARLY in the 3RD QUARTER. If that had taken place late in the 4th quarter, THEN it would've been a classless move. He took a huge risk because he wanted to go for the jugular and kill whatever momentum the 'boys might have had at that point. Ballsy move. Big risk, big reward deal there...

As for the kneel downs, eh... damned if you do, damned if you don't. The kneeldowns can be looked upon as being classless yet what would've happened had they run the ball instead AND THEN SCORED. Then he would've been crucified for running up the score.

As Fan Since 77 said, stop being sensitive. It was a bad night and the Cowboys were reamed bigtime...

 

[Paniolo22]

Eh tu Payton? Eh tu?

Describe the onside kick in 2 words or less:
Brilliant
Dagger
No chance
Knock out
Ballsy
Opportune
Oh S***!!!
Game over

 

[Undisputed]

Eh tu Payton? Eh tu?

Describe the onside kick in 2 words or less:
Brilliant
Dagger
No chance
Knock out
Ballsy
Opportune
Oh S***!!!
Game over

Does "omg***?!" count?

I still can't believe what I saw tonight.

 

[kingwhicker]

It won't be Dallas that gives it to Payton- they could play 10 times and Nawlins would kick the ever living crap out of us EVERY SINGLE TIME.

 

[Saintanism]

Onside kick was a bit of a stretch at that point, and i thought it was a bit classless.

I also thought the "kneel down" at 3 minutes to go was really classless... please... if you DON'T want to score then you call a couple of "soft" running plays up the middle.

Sean will get his eventually.

All that being said, i still give him credit for a heck of a game plan vs. us.

I just thought the 1st two things i mentioned were questionable.

You must be joking. Because if you're not, then you really are a cry baby. Classless? And just how is it classless to kick an onside kick? Also how is it classless to take a knee when you are already getting your butt handed back to you and there is no theoretical way for the Cowboys to win? I guess the Saints could have made it 49 to 17 if we wanted to be classless. But Coach Payton didn't want to rub it in the Cowboys face. I fail to see your logic.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Coach called a great game and there was nothing I saw classless about it.

He played to win.

The Onside kick was brilliant and as far as the kneel down was concerned that was being classy. Because there is not doubt in my mind he could have had that offense score again and if he did I would imagine the same people complaining about the kneel down would be complaining that they were still trying to score.

 

[ilovejerry]

Guy's you know what really bothers me. Is that we maybe will have Parcels for another year if that, and we let Sean go. I hope this doesn't turn into the JETS, and he leaves us with this mess, That would be disastrous. Maybe I'm overreacting but I don't want to go through those Camp years again

 

[noshame]

TO's own words, "we thought we still had a chance till the on sides kick"....thoughts?

Hell, I thought we still had a chance till the kick...grrrr.

 

[noshame]

Guy's you know what really bothers me. Is that we maybe will have Parcels for another year if that, and we let Sean go. I hope this doesn't turn into the JETS, and he leaves us with this mess, That would be disastrous. Maybe I'm overreacting but I don't want to go through those Camp years again

Trust me there are coaches licking their chops to get at the talent on this team. No mess will be left. But the sooner we turn the page the better.

I was thinking if the saints coaches had our players they would be undefeated right about now. Go figure.

 

[BulletBob]

Payton was the better coach last night - period, end of sentence.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I'm a little confused by the Payton defenders. If Payton was so worried about Romo or our ability to make a comeback, why take a chance of giving him the ball at your own 40 ? Makes no sense.

Plus, what had he seen from our team up to that point to make him fear we would make an 18 pt comeback. We didn't even have 18 pts yet.

If he actually feared our comeback, it was a low percentage gamble and a dumb move, ... making our offense go 80 yds makes way more sense.

Not a bright move if we recover the onsides. He would have given us the break we were looking for.

Just like the reverse he ran on 4th and 1, dumb call that worked.

Everything he called tonight worked, but his cockiness may come back to haunt him.( not that I don't like his cockiness )

Plus, if he didn't want to score at the end, why still have Reggie Bush running the ball, a guy who can score from anywhere ?

If you are beating a team badly that you are simply better than, then kneeling on the ball at the end means one thing, but in a conference game like this with both teams having the same record, playing for the same goals, and especially against the team you used to coach with, kneeling with 3 minutes left means something totally different. He was rubbing the Cowboys nose in it. Which is his right since his team kicked our butt.

I like Paytons cockiness and bravado, but it could come back and haunt him this time, ... but maybe not if we don't play them again in the playoffs.

I coached for 15 yrs, I have been on both sides of a blowout, and I never ever felt it was the offense's job to keep the score down.

It is always the defenses job to keep the other team from scoring. If your defense can't stop them, then guess what, they score.

When I was way ahead, I would take my starters out and put in my young kids, but I would never tell them to "not score".