Perception: Wilson v. Romo

[Proximo]

It kind of shocks me. I don't see what everybody else sees in Wilson. I see a capable guy who's got a good, positive personality and the best situation in football. But he's been a liability the last two games. And it's a mistake to pay him a mega-deal, too. That SEA team wins because of it's defense, and specifically because of it's secondary. It's bizarre to me that that somehow buys the QB a mulligan or three when it comes to evaluating his play in these big games.

It's unreal.

The Seahawks were EXTREMELY fortunate to make it to the Superbowl this year. They secured the easiest path possible in the NFC by way of a BS tiebreaker, and Russell played like poop in both the SB and the CC. Hell, didn't it take him till like sometime in the 2nd qtr to get his 1st completion yesterday?

This season might end up haunting me even more than 2007. We were the best team in the NFC.

 

[bigdnlaca]

I'll go with Romo because I feel that Romo has the ability to keep games close to where the defense or the running game can make a play that could help win the game.

Wilson only needs to make a couple of plays imo to win the game for the Seahawks because the defense and the running game are the team's strengths. I don't think Wilson have played a game where both the defense and the running game took a day off.

 

[windward]

I just saying last night, before the int., watch the offseason and preseason rankings the media will have Wilson as a top 5 QB solely because he appeared in 2 SB and won 1. In reality, he is probably a top 10 QB and would never sniff a SB if he was on another team.

I know it's just my opinion and all, but I can't rank Wilson above Brady, Ben, peyton, Romo, Rodgers or Brees at this point.

So 7th at best and I think Ryan, Rivers, Luck vs Wilson is pretty close too.

 

[windward]

It's unreal.

The Seahawks were EXTREMELY fortunate to make it to the Superbowl this year. They secured the easiest path possible in the NFC by way of a BS tiebreaker, and Russell played like poop in both the SB and the CC. Hell, didn't it take him till like sometime in the 2nd qtr to get his 1st completion yesterday?

This season might end up haunting me even more than 2007. We were the best team in the NFC.

League. We were the best team in the NFL.

 

[khiladi]

Wilson had a combined 4 or 5 completed throws in the first half of the SB and NFC championship games, yet remained in the games both times. You think Romo could do the same and not be down by at least 17 points? Russel just has to try and not lose games with the D he had. Romo doesn't have the same luxury

They ran multiple three and outs the whole first half. They couldn't sustain a drive more than three plays for a huge majority of the game. Any other half-way decent offense would have at least kept the Patriots off the field more. The ONLY time they want spread was the last drive of the game. That is how limited they are as an offense.

Wilson is absolutely over-rated and not elite.

 

[khiladi]

And Seattle has NO play-makers on offense. Did their TE even catch a pass? Did they even force the Pats LB to actually have to cover anybody, other than spy on Wilson. Plus, the whole Seattle back-field was injured. Just a disappointing end to have to watch them cheaters win.

 

[cej757]

I think 49ers Fans said the same thing about Steve Young....once he won his Superbowl he turned into a hero over night......Romo just needs his Superbowl

Once he beat the Cowboys the fans loved him. Remember George Seifert benched Young earlier that year when the niners were getting waxed by the Eagles in Candlestick and Young cursed Seifert out for 15 minutes standing behind Seifert on the sideline.

Steve Young even said it over the weekend that the SuperBowl really didn't matter it was all about beating Dallas. If you ask Young that NfC Championship game was the most important game of his career because the fans were ready to run him out of San Francisco.

 

[gimmesix]

One play in the third quarter, if made by Jermaine Kearse, dramatically changes the narrative here.

On 3rd and 2 at the Patriot 47, with 1:12 left in the third, Seahawks leading 24-14, Wilson lofts a perfect pass toward the left sideline at the Patriot 15 yard line. Kearse drops the ball. If that catch is made, the Seahawks are in prime scoring position to possibly go up three scores. If they punch in a TD there, it would have been very hard for the Patriots to win the game. Instead, they punt the ball back to New England, and the rest, as they say is history.

Wilson played well in this game. Look at the WRs he's throwing to - literally that is the worst WR corps in the league. Their top two WRs and their starting TE combined for four catches, literally because they couldn't get open. Despite that, Wilson had his team in position to win the game before his coaching staff lost their minds, and he threw a poor ball.

This is the reality of the game.

I don't think anyone here is saying Wilson really should shoulder the blame for the loss, at least I hope not. They are just pointing out how Romo should be viewed the same way other QBs are viewed.

If the play call is stupid, it should be called stupid.

If a poor receiving corps drops passes, it should be pointed out.

The quarterback should not be singled out for an interception when there are so many other factors that lead to a loss. Yet, it happens any time Dallas loses and Romo throws an interception.

It would just be nice if Romo was viewed with the same perspective fans seem to have for other QBs.

Wilson did not execute his throw at the end of the game. However, it was him and his team that lost the game, not just him.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Take it from me: the cowboys should've won 11 games in 2011. Romo is the reason we didn't.

Eli's defense in 2011?

LOL so your blaming everything on Romo. Sounds like a typical hater.

 

[Sportsbabe]

It already happen in GB. 4th and 2... why is Romo throwing to Dez for the catch no catch when we have the NFL offensive player of the year as our RB? Demarco gets 2 yards in his sleep 9 times out of 10. So why did that play become a do or die pass? It's just nightmarish.

Only difference, we weren't at the one (on that one ... and there wasn't less than a minute remaining in the game).

 

[BiffWellingtonIII]

Not one word is uttered about the call - not one.

The entire sports nation would destroy Romo.

Trust Story

 

[Idgit]

You mean like the 324 yards passing and 4 TDs they gave up to Brady and the pats? You do know that Wilson had a better QB rating in that game and percentage to Brady right? Since this is how we Judge our QB around here, they would point to that rating and say Romo was better than Brady but since it's Wilson.

By the way, Wilson had them in perfect position to win that game against the superior Tom Brady, how does he do that. People aren't willing to admit that his style is unorthodox and that the guy is just a flat out gamer and winner. Did he choke, of course he did. But I'd rather choke at the very end of a game against a team who's supposed to be superior to you, and it's the last play basically in the last game of the season, vs choking not making the playoffs for years and years, and cant' even make it to the NFC championship game.

It hurts to hear, but the truth always hurts.

I said that team wins because of it's defense. They didn't win yesterday. But they also didn't almost win because of Russell Wilson. He had them in perfect position to win the game, by throwing several questionable balls and, ultimately, the game losing interception.

And I don't think the Pats *were* the superior team yesterday. I think the better team choked. In epic fashion. Like, truly epic.

I think I *have* given the guy his due in this very thread. He's a capable QB, but not nearly as good as his reputation suggests. And it doesn't remotely hurt to hear that the Cowboys didn't make the playoffs, since I've watched every one of those seasons and know exactly why they didn't make the playoffs. Hint, hint: it was the bass defense and not the QB.

Tony Romo is a much, much better player than Russell Wilson. That's a truth that shouldn't hurt any Cowboy fan, yet for some reason still bizarrely does for some.

 

[Idgit]

But you're blinded to Romo's failures.

How about the 2012 winner take all finale @ skins?

I know the defense was terrible that year, and the D had given up a whopping 18 points at that point in the game(and I know anything more than a safety is bad D when it comes to Romo with you guys) but what if he doesn't throw that interception and he leads the team to a victory?

Then you would be looking at an MVP candidate and a sure fire HOF.

Instead, you guys have to talk about how good he is despite his horrible defense, When he's been in situations where he could've lifted everybody in the organization to greater heights, but he's failed every time.

Even in this packer game we had the dropped snap on 3rd&1. How about the sack on 2nd&8?

Defense fault? I know

Not blinded at all. I just keep them in context. That 2012 game against the Sk*ns was a real stinker by Tony Romo. It happens to all of them, and happened to him at an extremely unfortunately time that year.

But you need to go back and look at the record if you think Tony Romo fails to lift the team every time. It's just not true. He's a clutch performer in a game where passing effectiveness makes the difference a lot more often than not. Playing on a team it's always been easy to pass effectively against the last several seasons. Sometimes the very good QB play can overcome that. Sometimes it cannot. But if you watch the team's struggles and come away thinking the problem is with our QB, then it's not me who's blinded by reality.

 

[TwentyOne]

Not one word is uttered about the call - not one.

The entire sports nation would destroy Romo.

Trust Story

THere are enough ciritcs about that call. Deion Sanders for instance and others.

To me that was all about the play call. Why not run the ball. You have 1 min left, made 4 yds with the first run and have 3 trys left. The game is essentially yours.
The INT was not the QBs fault. It was just well played by the defender and he also had a bit luck to get there right with the ball and not a sek before. A sek before would have drawn a flag. If someones at fault it may be the WR who should have used his body more to his advantage.

The only critics i have to make is that the QB should have checked out of the play. If Romo threw that INT the critics would have been much more harsh just because Romo is in this league about 5 times longer and gets payed 12 times more. You expect more from that kind of experience and investment.

 

[JoeKing]

Only difference, we weren't at the one (on that one ... and there wasn't less than a minute remaining in the game).

The way Dez got robbed was bad enough. I love that Dude... play maker!! I can't wait to hear the news about his new payday.

The way Seattle lost that game had to be so painful for the Seahawks and their fans. IMO, the NFC playoffs was just a series of heartbreaking calls and occurrences week after week. First victim was the Lions with the picked up flag(good for our Cowboys), next victim was our Cowboys with the great Dez robbery, next victim was the Packers with the blown double digit lead, and the last NFC victim was the Seahawks with the worst goal line run that wasn't ran. A one yard line interception with under 30 seconds left in the game just takes the cake and I'm just watching it all with a smile on my face.

 

[KJJ]

Take it from me: the cowboys should've won 11 games in 2011. Romo is the reason we didn't.

The Cowboys should have won 12 games in 2011 and Romo helped cost them 2 of those games. The Cowboys had the Jets beat in the opener but 2 costly turnovers by Romo which included an int with less than a minute to play helped cost them that game. Three weeks later vs Detroit Romo's 2nd half meltdown cost the Cowboys a 24 point lead and the game. The following week vs NE Garrett cost the Cowboys that game by having his offense sit on the ball the final 3 1/2 minutes trying to protect a 3 point lead. All the Cowboys needed was a couple of first downs to close out the game but Garrett was stupid enough to put the game in the hands of his defense vs TOM BRADY.

He must have forgot that his defense just got toasted the previous week by Matt Stafford in the 4th quarter. Why on earth he thought his defense could stop Tom Brady in that situation was beyond me even Jerry questioned the decision. In week 13 vs the Cardinals Garrett made another coaching blunder by calling a TO as Bailey was kicking the game winner. After being iced by his own HC Bailey proceeded to miss his next attempt sending the game into OT where the Cowboys lost.

 

[Sportsbabe]

The way Dez got robbed was bad enough. I love that Dude... play maker!! I can't wait to hear the news about his new payday.

The way Seattle lost that game had to be so painful for the Seahawks and their fans. IMO, the NFC playoffs was just a series of heartbreaking calls and occurrences week after week. First victim was the Lions with the picked up flag(good for our Cowboys), next victim was our Cowboys with the great Dez robbery, next victim was the Packers with the blown double digit lead, and the last NFC victim was the Seahawks with the worst goal line run that wasn't ran. A one yard line interception with under 30 seconds left in the game just takes the cake and I'm just watching it all with a smile on my face.

"The Great Dez Robbery". I love that.
Forget that "Dez Caught It".
I'm putting that on my 2015 T-shirt!!!

 

[Sportsbabe]

deliberate

Now he doesn't deserve all that.
But can you belive that QB stat line in the first half???
Unbelievable. And some people (Steve Dennison) want to put him ahead of Romo. I don't think so.

 

[ConstantReboot]

There is no QB in the NFL that is more criticized than Tony Romo. Maybe its because he plays for the Cowboys. I honestly think there is certain jealousy in the league about Romo. Teams spend millions of dollars in investments and 1st round picks in order to land that perfect QB. However, we landed our franchise QB in free agency which is almost unheard of.

They are in denial and the other teams are taking it out onto the media. They want to make sure Romo doesn't gain the recognition he deserves because he wasn't drafted. It just makes them look good and feel good bashing Romo for not landing him - because they could have. Because QBs aren't supposed to make it in this league as UDFA and Romo is breaking that paradigm in leaps and bounds.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Must be nice not to have any blame or labels placed on you when you make a mistake. If Romo makes that INT we are all talking about Romo and his mistakes. But since its Russell Wilson, noones talking about him, but rather Carroll and the play call. I guess the 50+ pass calling plays that he used to have to throw in years past puts tremendous pressure on Romo to succeed or else.

Close the thread.

He already won a Super Bowl.
He is the QB of scrub franchise NOT the Dallas Cowboys.