Perception: Wilson v. Romo

[Risen Star]

Wilson is a HUGE part of their offense. Not sure what QBs can do much with Baldwin and Kearse as your starting WRs. Wilson will be fine, I'd pay him whatever he wants...he will only get better

He's not and will never be an elite pocket passer. He's going to need a dynamite defense and running game or his warts will show.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

He's not and will never be an elite pocket passer. He's going to need a dynamite defense and running game or his warts will show.

Good post. He's the best supplementary quarterback in the game. He's the ultimate incarnation of Colin Kaepernick. He's not Romo, let alone Brady or Manning.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

I keep hearing that the Seahawks desperately need a legit receiver but that's ridiculous. A talent like Megatron, Dez, Green, Jones, etc. would be wasted on that run-first offense that has their receivers running high school routes. IMO, the biggest mistake they made last off-season was letting Tate walk. He may be other team's 2nd receiver, but that was about as close to a #1 receiver as they could afford and utilize.

 

[Idgit]

I keep hearing that the Seahawks desperately need a legit receiver but that's ridiculous. A talent like Megatron, Dez, Green, Jones, etc. would be wasted on that run-first offense that has their receivers running high school routes. IMO, the biggest mistake they made last off-season was letting Tate walk. He may be other team's 2nd receiver, but that was about as close to a #1 receiver as they could afford and utilize.

What they really need is an athletic outlet TE for Wilson to overthrow.

 

[jobberone]

You like Marino?

Didn't like him as a youngster. Always was a Montana/Elway guy. Even liked Bernie Kosar. Never liked stinko Marino

Don't like QB's who show up teammates when things go wrong, Marino was the king of that.

It doesn't matter what I think although since you ask he was a great QB. The first pass I ever saw Romo throw I said here 'did you see that release'. Later I said that release is quicker than Marino which speaks for itself. Somehow Marino has more yardage than anyone else ever and elected into the HOF. That means more than a few people think he's very good and his stats which also includes TDs etc prove it. Each is left to his own to make their own opinion though.

 

[jobberone]

Are they conservative because of Wilson? I would say so.

They probably have him reigned in a bit. They've reigned in Romo as well. Sea doesn't have to score a lot to win so...... IF I were coach I'd open it up a little but I don't see Wilson every day in practice against a pretty good defense.

 

[Gameover]

It doesn't matter what I think although since you ask he was a great QB. The first pass I ever saw Romo throw I said here 'did you see that release'. Later I said that release is quicker than Marino which speaks for itself. Somehow Marino has more yardage than anyone else ever and elected into the HOF. That means more than a few people think he's very good and his stats which also includes TDs etc prove it. Each is left to his own to make their own opinion though.

Passing yards mean squat. Vinny T is high on that list. HOF is a joke too.

 

[khiladi]

They probably have him reigned in a bit. They've reigned in Romo as well. Sea doesn't have to score a lot to win so...... IF I were coach I'd open it up a little but I don't see Wilson every day in practice against a pretty good defense.

I don't think Romo was reigned in, they've just gone to better game planning. But that's a different argument.

Why would you reign him in though, knowing that defense? I think their OC is horrible as well, so it's probably a combination of all of them.

 

[Gameover]

Are they conservative because of Wilson? I would say so.

I would say the reason is because of garbage skill players.

You guys keep comparing him to Romo, well wilson doesn't have a Bryant, Witten, does he even have a Williams?

His skill players are complete garbage. Romo's playing with all pros and probowlers. Wilson's TE didn't have one catch in the SB.

 

[khiladi]

Passing yards mean squat. Vinny T is high on that list. HOF is a joke too.

Marino lost in that era just like why Elway lost. The NFC was so dominant on offense and defense and the AFC defenses were trash.

 

[Gameover]

Marino lost in that era just like why Elway lost. The NFC was so dominant on offense and defense and the AFC defenses were trash.

NFC's the reason why he lost to Tony Eason @ his own crib in 85 afc championship game?

 

[khiladi]

NFC's the reason why he lost to Tony Eason @ his own crib in 85 afc championship game?

It's the reason why he lost the SB in his second year, like pretty much every single AFC opponent during that stretch. Those AFC treats would have the most awful defensive meltdowns.

 

[jobberone]

I don't think Romo was reigned in, they've just gone to better game planning. But that's a different argument.

Why would you reign him in though, knowing that defense? I think their OC is horrible as well, so it's probably a combination of all of them.

To limit his ability to create damage via friendly fire. Both of 'em. I've been on Romo since uhh....2006 for being Bad Tony and not Good Tony. With Tony you don't want to take away what makes him Tony but you want him to be able to do some of that without messing up to put it nicely.

With Wilson you don't have the same risks at least to the degree you do with Tony. But all QBs can inflict damage from friendly fire. Just ask Mr Wilson today about last Sunday....at two arms' length. To address your point, the OC gave Wilson a bad mission but Wilson still pulled the trigger. All he had to do was abort.

More nonsense but 'run away to fight another day' still comes to mind.

 

[jobberone]

Passing yards mean squat. Vinny T is high on that list. HOF is a joke too.

Hmmmm. Oh, really. Then what are these lofty ideals only you use in evaluating players of arguable for you HOF talent? I didn't mention the eyeball test which works for me but you can't use it since yours is obviously defective.

There have been on extremely rare occasions when one man's opinion even while differing from others (as in almost everyone else in the world) was correct and 99.9% of everyone else was wrong.

But this isn't one of them. Ok.

 

[dfense]

Must be nice not to have any blame or labels placed on you when you make a mistake. If Romo makes that INT we are all talking about Romo and his mistakes. But since its Russell Wilson, noones talking about him, but rather Carroll and the play call. I guess the 50+ pass calling plays that he used to have to throw in years past puts tremendous pressure on Romo to succeed or else.

Really no comparison there. It wasn't a bad pass or mistake. It was a bad play selection and a great defensive play.

 

[Idgit]

Really no comparison there. It wasn't a bad pass or mistake. It was a bad play selection and a great defensive play.

It was a bad decision to throw that ball. He didn't have to let it go. Bad play call and all, he should have either put it right on the WR or thrown it away.

 

[Primetime42]

How many of the Seahawks games have turned on a Wilson interception?

I can think of a few with Romo.

2010
Titans 17-17 middle 3rd tries to force 1 to bennett in back of the end zone. Bennett was shaded by 3 Titans

2011
Jets
lions

2013
Broncos
Packers

A few I remember off top. He singlehandidly prevented us from making the playoffs in 2011. Him and Garrett Icing his own kicker.

He threw 4 INTs in the NFC Championship game and still won.

Kick rocks.

 

[Section446]

Our fan base has such an inferiority complex, it's sickening.

 

[KJJ]

Are they conservative because of Wilson? I would say so.

It's by design it's not because of Wilson or he wouldn't be their QB and be in line for a big contract. If a team is conservative because of their QB they have the wrong QB. Seattle doesn't want to have to count on Wilson having his A-game every week for them to win games. Their philosophy is the reason they still had a chance vs Green Bay in the title game. Seattle isn't as conservative as you think just look at their last play in the SB. Wilson doesn't throw a lot because the Seahawks offense revolves around Lynch and their running game but when he does throw he goes down the field. Wilson only completed 12 passes in the SB but produced 247 yards and 2 TD's. His receiving corp is pretty average he doesn't have a Dez Bryant or an Odell Beckham Jr. You have to remember Wilson is still a developing QB who hasn't reached his ceiling yet. His attempts and yards have increased every year and as long as Seattle can run the ball and play solid defense Wilson's numbers will remain moderate. Eventually he'll have to do more as Lynch ages and his defense declines some.

Ben Roethlisbeger never passed for more than 3513 yards his first 5 seasons due to the Steelers running game and great defense. Once the Steelers defense and running game began to decline Roethlisberger became very productive. He was tied for the lead in passing yards this season. I believe Wilson is very capable of being a real productive passer because he likes to go vertical. Romo's passing yards were down this season due to the Cowboys running the football. They don't want Romo having to carry the offense it limits his mistakes. Running the ball takes a lot of pressure off the QB making them more efficient. Wilson is a very good QB who makes a lot of plays with his arm and legs he doesn't have to pass for 4500 yards and 35 TD's for me to be impressed with him. He'll become more productive there's no doubt in my mind about that especially when Seattle adds an elite WR.

 

[khiladi]

It's by design it's not because of Wilson or he wouldn't be their QB and be in line for a big contract. Seattle doesn't want to have to count on Wilson having his A-game every week for them to win games. Their philosophy is the reason they still had a chance vs Green Bay in the title game. Seattle isn't as conservative as you think just look at Seattle's last play in the SB. Wilson doesn't throw a lot because the Seahawks offense revolves around Lynch and their running game but when he does throw he goes down the field. Wilson only completed 12 passes in the SB but produced 247 yards and 2 TD's. His receiving corp is pretty average he doesn't have a Dez Bryant or an Odell Beckham Jr. You have to remember Wilson is still a developing QB who hasn't reached his ceiling yet. His attempts and yards have increased every year and as long as Seattle can run the ball and play solid defense Wilson's numbers will remain moderate. Eventually he'll have to do more as Lynch ages and his defense declines some.

Ben Roethlisbeger never passed for more than 3513 yards his first 5 seasons due to the Steelers running game and great defense. Once the Steelers defense and running game began to decline Roethlisberger became very productive. He was tied for the lead in passing yards this season. I believe Wilson is very capable of being a real productive passer because he likes to go vertical. Romo's passing yards were down this season due to the Cowboys running the football. They don't want Romo having to carry the offense it limits his mistakes. Running the ball takes a lot of pressure off the QB making them more efficient. Wilson is a very good QB who makes a lot of plays with his arm and legs he doesn't have to pass for 4500 yards and 35 TD's for me to be impressed with him. He'll become more productive there's no doubt in my mind about that especially when Seattle adds an elite WR.

There is no way you can spin 1-4 the whole first half or so and constant 3 and outs. That means they don't trust the offense.

Wilson's yardage was gained on chucking the ball up and the last drive was the only time they went spread and had to toss it. Even with the adjustment in the running game with the Cowboys, what they do with Wilsom isn't even remotely compared to Romo. Romo is constantly audibling at the line and it's actually a myth he has less role. He actually has more of a role.